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So this event is being held in San Francisco. Where? And how long will the event be???
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post #123 of 253
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Originally posted by DHagan4755
So this event is being held in San Francisco. Where? And how long will the event be???

I wish there was a streaming broadcast... I wanna watch it unfold live....

info about satellite link
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post #124 of 253
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Originally posted by Not Unlike Myself
I wish there was a streaming broadcast... I wanna watch it unfold live....

info about satellite link

Do they usally broadcast 'special events'? I can't remember seeing one broadcast before... Either way it is going to up the hype even more...

It makes you wonder what they have got up their sleeves...

When combined with 10.2.6 allegedly seeded or available to developer type people, could we perhaps see a new new machine to run the 'Music Service' on, as well as new iPods?
post #125 of 253
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When combined with 10.2.6 allegedly seeded or available to developer type people, could we perhaps see a new new machine to run the 'Music Service' on, as well as new iPods?

10.2.6. is a small bug fix release.
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post #126 of 253
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10.2.6. is a small bug fix release.

k, cool...

Got a bit carried away there
post #127 of 253
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Originally posted by Marcus
Do they usally broadcast 'special events'? I can't remember seeing one broadcast before... Either way it is going to up the hype even more...

It makes you wonder what they have got up their sleeves...

When combined with 10.2.6 allegedly seeded or available to developer type people, could we perhaps see a new new machine to run the 'Music Service' on, as well as new iPods?

I came in to ask the exact same question because no one seems to think that broadcasting a special event is big news. They've never broadcasted a special IIRC. Updated iPods and a new music service are cool, but no where near worthy of a broadcast. I'm not saying I expect 970s, but possibly this new device which will be groundbreaking? and along with a new iPod (not just update) and a new music service maybe this is worth the hype.
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post #128 of 253
It's a good thing I have been able to keep my almost 20 year old C-band big satellite dish... my wife hates it.

And I agree with the previous couple of posts, I don't recall any Apple special events having been sat-broadcasted in the past, not even the original iPod introduction. I think this one will be a biggie. Satellite uptime is really expensive but it is still way better than webcasts for high quality audio and video. So we can rest assured Apple will be presenting something much more exciting than minor hardware upgrades. Probably a totally new Digital Lifestyle product or service, or a combination of both.

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post #129 of 253
If Apple buy's universal music, and a music service is what we are getting. Maybe we can finally use that iTunes & Rendezvous setup that we saw demo'd at MW? That was some KeWl Sthit.
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post #130 of 253
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Originally posted by onlooker
If Apple buy's universal music, and a music service is what we are getting. Maybe we can finally use that iTunes & Rendezvous setup that we saw demo'd at MW? That was some KeWl Sthit.

If I dont get hte local streamy thingy in iTunes I am DONE with this platform. Do you hear me Steve


post #131 of 253
More info in the 'music serivce' has been posted on the USA Today website...

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/webguid...le-music_x.htm

Once you extract the actual info it is quite interesting...
post #132 of 253
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Originally posted by Marcus
More info in the 'music serivce' has been posted on the USA Today website...

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/webguid...le-music_x.htm

Once you extract the actual info it is quite interesting...

This was at the bottom of that article, and I think this will be a problem.

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Wolpert argues that for all the expected hype from Apple chief Steve Jobs about the convenience of buying single tunes, "on Rhapsody you get unlimited songs for $9.95. So if you found 50 songs to listen to, it would cost $9.95. On the Apple service, that 50 would be $50. That could be a problem."
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post #133 of 253
Anyone speaks (or rather reads) french?

post #134 of 253
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This was at the bottom of that article, and I think this will be a problem.

yes, but isn't that $9.95 on a per month charge? so yeah, if you found 50 songs in a single month, then you'd only pay $9.95. but if you only found one song that month worth your time and money, that one song would effectively cost $9.95.
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post #135 of 253
I think if I paid 9.95 a month I would go out of my way to find 10 songs minimum a month to make sure I was getting my money's worth at the very leats. Unlees of course I was made of money (which I'm not): but, needless to say I can not afford to waste cash like that.

[Edit] I could find 2 CD's a month no problem.
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post #136 of 253
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Anyone speaks (or rather reads) french?


From the look of it (I am no means fluent, or even competent, but my parents live in France so at least I recognise a few words!), it is just a general overview of Apple's recently announced quarterly business results and sales.

There is also a small amount of info on the music service introduction, possible new iPod and adoption of the AAC file format.

With the regard to the Universal deal, it merely reprints Steve's denial about it all...

I'm sure someone who is fluent can pick up a lot more detail...

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post #137 of 253
I have been told by a friend at one of the companies below that Special Event will be about the music service, new iPods, AAC, free download of the codec for current iPods and iTunes, etc. That's all. At the conference will be reps from EMI-Apple, BMG, WEA Music, Universal Music Group and Sony. All these labels will have their product available for download. On May 2nd the Apple Stores will be giving demos and the new iPods will be available. This probably means the service starts at that time. One possible surprise may be iTunes being available for PCs which would mean the new music service will be available to all. It is believed that the new iPods will be dual mode models, ready for either Macs or PCs. Stay tuned.
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post #138 of 253
anyone wants to buy 10GB iPod?


If we won't be able to upgrade firmware to support AAC, i'm saying bye bye to macs and getting Amiga.
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post #139 of 253
Are you sure about iTunes for PC's, or is it Rendezvous music compatability for PC. that I can understand, but iTunes? PC users will be blown away.
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post #140 of 253
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Originally posted by onlooker
Are you sure about iTunes for PC's, or is it Rendezvous music compatability for PC. that I can understand, but iTunes? PC users will be blown away.

I am sceptical iTunes will be released for PC...

It would in one stroke, wipe out a feature attracting people to the Mac platform...

Surely it would be counter productive in the long run?
post #141 of 253
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Originally posted by Anders the White
Anyone speaks (or rather reads) french?


The article said various things :

- the financial results are finally good due to the good amount of sell of the powerbook, even if the 17 inch powerbook have problems of mass production

- There will be a new i pod able to encode in AAC, a code more performant than MP3, which will alloud to load paying music on the web. The copy from a i pod to one another would be extremely difficult. We are going to struggle against the culture of free said Pascal Cagni.

- Steve Jobs deny that Apple wanted to buy universal music group.

- Murbot is going to buy a new Apple product in late June. No further precision was avalaible for this last point, Cagni precised that he was under NDA ( i will prefer to say to you that Apple will soon use the PPC 970, than to take the risk to make any more comment about that sensitive subject) .
post #142 of 253
Apple CEO Ducks Questions on Music Strategy
Thu April 24, 2003 03:57 PM ET
By Duncan Martell

CUPERTINO, Calif. (Reuters) - Steve Jobs, chairman and chief executive of Apple Computer Inc. AAPL.O , declined to comment on its forthcoming online music service and its reported talks to buy Vivendi's Universal Music label at the computer maker's annual shareholder meeting on Thursday.

"There have been a lot of rumors in the last few weeks," Jobs said in response to a shareholder question. "Many of them are not true and some of them are true."

Apple, based in Cupertino, California, is readying to launch an online music service, which will allow for users to buy single songs from a deep catalog, record industry sources have told Reuters. The service has already won the praise of some record executives who see it as a potentially powerful weapon against online privacy.

In a further confirmation, Apple sent invitations earlier this week to reporters to an event in San Francisco on Monday, noting that it would be "music to your ears."

Asked by one shareholder if Apple were indeed going to launch such a service, Jobs responded: "You'd think so if you haven't been asleep the last two weeks."

"We really can't talk about unannounced products," he said later, in response to a question regarding the Vivendi V.N EAUG.PA> talks about Universal Music Group, home to acts such as Eminem and U2.

Jobs last week denied Apple had made a bid for Vivendi's Universal Music Group record label, but he did not clearly deny that the two parties were in acquisition talks.

Apple, under the direction of Jobs, has been pitching Apple computers as the "digital hub" of a digital lifestyle, and analysts said an acquisition of Universal assets, plus Apple's own online music service due as soon as next week, are an obvious extension of that strategy.

Apple has made digital entertainment, with its iTunes and iMovie editing and recording software, central to its strategy. The company did not Webcast its annual meeting.

In response to a question about when Apple may return to the days of paying a 10-cent to 12-cent a share dividend, Chief Financial Officer Fred Anderson said that unless the U.S. Congress acts to cut taxes on shareholder dividends, an increased dividend would be among "the least effective ways" to return money to shareholders.

Apple had $4.53 billion in cash, cash equivalents and short-term investments on its balance sheet at the end of the most recent quarter.

Earlier this month, Apple reported net income that fell 65 percent from a year ago as revenue was little changed, but hit its own revenue target and profits were at the high end of Wall Street's expectation.

Jobs, in his concluding comments, said that morale at Apple is "very high," adding that, "I have never seen folks at Apple work as hard as they are now."

"I think we are leading this industry in innovation," Jobs said.

"Hopefully things will start to turn around at some point," Jobs said, referring to the weak economy and slack demand for computers and high-technology products in general.

Shares of Apple fell 15 cents to $13.43 in late trading on the Nasdaq.
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post #143 of 253
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asked by one shareholder if Apple were indeed going to launch such a service, Jobs responded: "You'd think so if you haven't been asleep the last two weeks."


that was funny.

post #144 of 253
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Originally posted by Marcus
I am sceptical iTunes will be released for PC...

It would in one stroke, wipe out a feature attracting people to the Mac platform...

Surely it would be counter productive in the long run?

Market share. If this downloadable music service were only to be available to 3-5-blah-whatever percent of the market, what would be the point of the Big 5 music companies agreeing to such a big showing. (And that's assuming 100% of that 5% would use it regularly).

No, a method for Apple to sell songs through their system by a good, healthy chunk of all computer users would pay for the overhead and give Apple Yet Another Revenue Stream.

Mind you, it would behoove Apple to give Mac owners and/or .mac members a small discount or something else to make the potential switchers active switchers.

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that was funny.


second that
post #146 of 253
iTunes for PCs is only a guess on my part. However, I have no doubt that eventually the music service will be available to PC users just as the iPod was.

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If we won't be able to upgrade firmware to support AAC, i'm saying bye bye to macs and getting Amiga.

Of course Apple will provide a firmware upgrade. Why do people think that the company wouldn't do this. They have a built-in user base and need the iPod owners they have now to support the music service as well as future buyers. It's a non-issue. (You'll see.)
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post #147 of 253
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Of course Apple will provide a firmware upgrade. Why do people think that the company wouldn't do this. They have a built-in user base and need the iPod owners they have now to support the music service as well as future buyers. It's a non-issue. (You'll see.)

Agreed. On the other side I don't think Apple will make iTunes for windows, but they will probably make pc users connect to the service trough MusicMatch. MusicMatch pretty much has the framework for such a service already with the MusicMatchMX version. It will probably not take much work to make MusicMatch handle Apples music service in a similar manner.
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post #148 of 253
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Originally posted by onlooker
This was at the bottom of that article, and I think this will be a problem.

The rub is that it's only streaming! You can't put the music onto a CD or in your mp3 player. I think that's the deal anyways.
Please correct me if I am mistaken
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post #149 of 253
Did anyone else catch this delightful Freudian slip?

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The service has already won the praise of some record executives who see it as a potentially powerful weapon against online privacy

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post #150 of 253
Too bad no one will probably go for it, with kazaa and the likes out there it will be a hard sell... the hardware better be damned sexy to get people to go for it. If itunes came out on the pc, some pc people would still have complaints too. Its going to be fricken interesting tho whatever comes out.
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post #151 of 253
if this takes off it sure is going to suck for music stores... times are hard enough as is...
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post #152 of 253
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Too bad no one will probably go for it, with kazaa and the likes out there it will be a hard sell... the hardware better be damned sexy to get people to go for it. If itunes came out on the pc, some pc people would still have complaints too. Its going to be fricken interesting tho whatever comes out.


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That only applies to thieves. How would you like to pick a job, and go to work everyday 40+ hours a week and get no pay check?

Even though there is Kazaa, and limewire out there (I use lime wire sometimes) The idea is to try before you buy. Not download all for free you freaking scumbag thief!
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post #153 of 253
Reading through this thread, someone said Apple's new iPods may have Dual system compatibility, just one that works with macs and PCs.

Newsflash:

ALL iPODS WORK WITH BOTH OSes

i know this because at christmas, i got a 20 gig windows one because all the mac ones were sold out.

speaking of which, anyone wanna buy it?

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post #154 of 253
The original iPods are listed as Windows and Mac Versions because the hardrives have different software on them. Also the Windows iPods came with a Firewire to USB cable I believe.
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post #155 of 253
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Too bad no one will probably go for it, with kazaa and the likes out there it will be a hard sell... the hardware better be damned sexy to get people to go for it. If itunes came out on the pc, some pc people would still have complaints too. Its going to be fricken interesting tho whatever comes out.

You know that some people want music other then the stuff 20 somethings like. There's a whole world of other music that Apple will be making available from the 5 largest catalogues on the planet. And, the artists will be paid! What a unique idea, huh?
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post #156 of 253
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Originally posted by MacsRGood4U
You know that some people want music other then the stuff 20 somethings like. There's a whole world of other music that Apple will be making available from the 5 largest catalogues on the planet. And, the artists will be paid! What a unique idea, huh?

The question is whether Indie labels will be made available on the service. If not plenty of great bands will not be listed and thus I would be relunctant to use the service.

For this thing to be successful, as you point out, music that you cannot find online right now must be available.
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post #157 of 253
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iTunes for PCs is only a guess on my part. However, I have no doubt that eventually the music service will be available to PC users just as the iPod was.



Of course Apple will provide a firmware upgrade. Why do people think that the company wouldn't do this. They have a built-in user base and need the iPod owners they have now to support the music service as well as future buyers. It's a non-issue. (You'll see.)

..i was trying to be funny...
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post #158 of 253
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Originally posted by Flounder
The rub is that it's only streaming! You can't put the music onto a CD or in your mp3 player. I think that's the deal anyways.
Please correct me if I am mistaken

You are correct. $9.95 for streaming and then $0.99 per song that you burn. So with listen.com, if you want to burn 50 songs, you'd have to pay $50 (+ monthly fee).

I will say that I subscribe to their streaming service from work (where I use a wintel) and I'm very happy with it. They have a TON of stuff. But I can't wait for Apple to release their service and be able to buy music without any monthly fees or weird restrictions.
post #159 of 253
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..i was trying to be funny..

Well, I guess you need to try harder! (rim shot here)
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post #160 of 253
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Originally posted by David R
You are correct. $9.95 for streaming and then $0.99 per song that you burn. So with listen.com, if you want to burn 50 songs, you'd have to pay $50 (+ monthly fee).

I will say that I subscribe to their streaming service from work (where I use a wintel) and I'm very happy with it. They have a TON of stuff. But I can't wait for Apple to release their service and be able to buy music without any monthly fees or weird restrictions.

We'll know soon enough.
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