Splinemodel - It is patently obvious that you know little about either Europe or economics?but do you know anything at all about socialism that you didn?t learn from half-baked right-wing ideologues? And why couch your argument in such biblical terms?
I was merely putting in argument in biblical terms in order to pressure fellowship's argument, which will have a religious motive to it since fellowship values religion, precisely Christianity. It's not really my nature or intent to wholeheartedly introduce spirtual beliefs into arguments about human-to-human involvements.
I know quite a bit about both topics. There are obviously people who know more than I do, but I'm not an economist or a politician. If you don't think I have any idea about economics or Europe, a non-backed-up one-liner isn't going to serve you well.
Another little observations. Often when I present an argument about the ineffective EU economic policy to a European, I get a response that's basically "It's not black and white" and there is little substance. I have yet to see a liberal or European on this board, aside from perhaps BRussell, ever put substance into an argument on such grounds.
Personally, I think that "social-democratic" (read:socialist) idealouges about things not being black and white are half-baked. . . and given the economic status of Europe vs. America, I think we can tell for sure whose economy is more effective at generating wealth and welfare. (You'll argue here unless you yourself have any knowledge of economics)
Apologies to Fellowship, since by being so rhetorical I was undeniably being a jerk, but I just don't like one line responses. If you're going to respond, back yourself up. . . That goes especially to a number of posters in this thread. you know who you are