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What would make you upgrade your iBook?

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I own a 05.2001 600Mhz 12" iBook and was looking at the new 700Mhz/Radeon iBook and did not upgrade (yet?).

I'm asking myself where is my trigger threshold that will make me upgrade ...

Of course a dual CPU 1Ghz iBook with a Radeon 7500 for half the price of the present offering would ... but what do I really need :confused:

What I need is a powerful, but ultra-portable system that I can use as a full desktop replacement at home. So even the small screen and the nowadays measly resolution of 1024x768 are not really a problem. Of course a faster CPU won't hurt and a faster graphics card neither, but what really hurts is IMHO:

The Radeon does support much higher resilutions than the built-in screen. Why can I not just hook up a nice big screen and an external keyboard to my iBook when at home ... and still have a lean&mean package when on the go?

So to answer the original question:

A 800+ Mhz G3 (witch big cache 512K or more) and a Radeon 32MB (or Radeon 7500 32MB) that allows bigger reolution for external screens, that would make me buy a new iBook within seconds
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I'll do it now if you move this to the correct forum
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[quote]Originally posted by hmurchison:
<strong>I'll do it now if you move this to the correct forum </strong><hr></blockquote>

He's asking about WHAT FUTURE HARDWARE WILL MAKE YOU UPGRADE YOUR IBOOK. You are worse than the mods.

 

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This thread is all about proving that AI can correctly format html...

Very modern motherboard. Dual G4's at 1.5 GHz. AGP 8x. cost &lt; $2200.
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post #5 of 50
Thread Starter 
What about an answer to the question ... ?

Of course as soon as a 800Mhz G3 Ibook with a Radeon 32MB is current I will upgrade and this thread will move to currenthardware <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
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<a href="http://forums.appleinsider.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=002366" target="_blank">There's already a thread for this!</a>

In any case, I'd like to see

1. 1+ Ghz G3
2. Slot-loading optical drive (or no optical drive at all)
3. lighter weight
4. 133+ Mhz bus

before replacing my iBook/500/CD.

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post #7 of 50
To answer your question (and thus making room for my disapproval of any forum-fascism - people who refuse to look at content because of external factors-)
1) (choice of) other colors (but I have digressed on this topic in other threads)
2) a processor that is notably faster, meaning: not a pathetic calculator-thingy next to the G4 in, e.g., the TiBook - for, I reckon, the low price of the iBook has to do with
a: low expandibility (no pcmcia, 1 ram-slot)
b: little memory -especially cache, the real money-eater in computers)
c: outdated motherboard design (low bus speeds et al.)
By which I mean to say: I realise that in desiring too much of the iBook, you would just end up wanting a TiBook for the price of its small brother.
But alas, I do not think I would buy an iBook again. And, if you were wondering, I have a 600 Mhz, 14 incher from somewhere in 2002.
post #8 of 50
I will upgrade once there is:

A 1.4GHz+ PowerBook/iBook

and any of these:

10-hour battery
Bluetooth
SuperDrive
FireWire 2
USB 2
Video card which can run DOOM III
14" iBook
700MHz G3
640MB RAM

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post #9 of 50
I don't have an iBook, but I would replace my G4 SuperDrive iMac (15" model) TOMORROW if I could get an iBook with the equal specs (800MHz G4, 60GB hard drive, same graphics - more or less -, etc.).

I'd even give up the SuperDrive and opt instead for a nice zippy Combo Drive. Slot-loading, of course.

Oh yeah, one more thing: I'd like it in the screen size/resolution of the first generation TiBook (widescreen 15" at 1152x768, or whatever it was).

With all the usual ports (Firewire, USB, video out, etc.).

Basically, TiBook guts in an iBook shell: TiBook power with iBook style/toughness.

I'd make that my sole Mac, both desktop and grab it and go when needed.



And of course, an AirPort set-up.

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post #10 of 50
Buy a 700mhz today, use your handy CHUD tools and overclcok that Sahara to its true 800mhz rating.

post #11 of 50
[quote]You are worse than the mods.
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Thank you! That's a compliment.

I don't have an iBook so i'm cheatin' here but I'd jump for one with a G4.
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post #12 of 50
[quote]Originally posted by BeNiceOrYouHaveToUseAWindowsBox:
<strong>I'm asking myself where is my trigger threshold that will make me upgrade ... </strong><hr></blockquote>

800+ MHz G4 and a 4xAGP graphiccard with 32Mb VRAM.
post #13 of 50
[quote] Originally posted by serrano:

Buy a 700mhz today, use your handy CHUD tools and overclcok that Sahara to its true 800mhz rating. <hr></blockquote>
Can I do this with my 500Mhz iBook??
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post #14 of 50
[quote]Originally posted by Macasaurus:
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Can I do this with my 500Mhz iBook??</strong><hr></blockquote>

nope. to overclock a 500 MHz iBook, you have to break open the case, take it apart to find the mobo, and solder a couple of circuits.
post #15 of 50
[quote]Originally posted by pscates:
<strong>I don't have an iBook, but I would replace my G4 SuperDrive iMac (15" model) TOMORROW if I could get an iBook with the equal specs (800MHz G4, 60GB hard drive, same graphics - more or less -, etc.).

I'd even give up the SuperDrive and opt instead for a nice zippy Combo Drive. Slot-loading, of course.

Oh yeah, one more thing: I'd like it in the screen size/resolution of the first generation TiBook (widescreen 15" at 1152x768, or whatever it was).

With all the usual ports (Firewire, USB, video out, etc.).

Basically, TiBook guts in an iBook shell: TiBook power with iBook style/toughness.

I'd make that my sole Mac, both desktop and grab it and go when needed.
]</strong><hr></blockquote>

I've got the same 15" iMac and sometimes regret I didn't get a laptop instead.
I agree, I'd trade it in for a similarly equipped iBook, but you left one key factor out...true video spanning.
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post #16 of 50
i am sold if:
Bluetooth built in
processor closer to 1GHz on 133 bus
small widescreen
better battery life

sweetner but not necessary:
(i still want this though)
512 cache
slot load
a trackpad that doubles as a tablet for Inkwell
post #17 of 50
video spanning.

anything after that is a gift.
post #18 of 50
There is definitely a difference between "What are the new iBook specs going to be?" and "What would make you upgrade your iBook" (Dream Machine)?

Personally, I think you guys have very high hopes if you expect any of these machines in the next 2 years.

Let's get up to a G4 in the iBook before we start talking about 15" Widescreens, 1 GHz+, 32-64 MB of Graphics memory, etc. Plus, remember Apple also has a computer called the PowerBook that already almost matches up.
post #19 of 50
For all those of you cussin' the 750FX G3, it is actually fairly speedy: all it is missing is Altivec (and a few FSB MHz). 512KB of full speed on die cache is quite nice .

Could IBM add VMX to the 750* G3s? Probably.
Could IBM up the FSB (see Gamecube's Gecko)? Probably.

However technically possible these additions are, the iBook cannot overtake the PowerBook, in MHz, actual speed or features. For the iBook to get a G4, the Powerbook needs a G5 (or a significantly faster "G4++").

I'd like to see a 12.1" TiBook. A return to 10 hour battery life would be great.

Where can I get the CHUD tools?
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post #20 of 50
Just having this thread in the thread list makes the whole future hardware page look retarded.

Fix it, prease &lt;-- sorry, I've just spent a whole day aclimatizing Japanese ESL students.
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post #21 of 50
[quote]Originally posted by Stoo:
<strong>A return to 10 hour battery life would be great.</strong><hr></blockquote>

A return to 5 hours would be nice.

It seems like i get almost 3 or so now.


That bites!

But yes,battery life would get me to get a new one.


No measly 10 hours, either (which would be, what, 6 IRL?)

I want 16 hours.

They need to improve battery technology, or put a little hydrogen engine in there, or something.
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post #22 of 50
BeNiceOrYouHaveToUseAWindowsBox,

You have the most annoying fvcking screen name I've ever seen. Mods, please delete this retarded a$$hole's account and ban his IP. Do we have to have fvcked up formatting anywhere this turkey posts?

Thanks,

great job everywhere else.
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post #23 of 50
A new laptop would have to double the features of my current laptop.

1GHz, 1GB RAM, Faster Graphics, Higher resolution.

All in the same form factor. The 12in iBook is the perfect size.
post #24 of 50
[quote]Originally posted by Stoo:
<strong>I'd like to see a 12.1" TiBook. A return to 10 hour battery life would be great.</strong><hr></blockquote>

[quote]Originally posted by gordy:
<strong>All in the same form factor. The 12in iBook is the perfect size.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Stoo and gordy express some of my strongest desires, which have also been represented in my signatures over the last couple of years. Whatever Apple does with the iBook, it has to be small, light, with extraordinary battery life.

Escher
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Until we get a 3 lbs sub-PowerBook, the 12-inch PowerBook will do.
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post #25 of 50
A faster processor (1GHz+) is first on my list, but not necessarily a G4. The TiBook gets pretty toasty. I'll stay with a G3 for now, unless a more efficient G4 comes along.

A faster combo drive would also be requisite. This thing takes forever to burn a CD.

Finally, a faster bus (133MHz) wouldn't be something I would probably notice, but it would make me feel good when I whip out the credit card.

Lighter weight, longer battery life, better graphics, /etc., would just be icing for me.
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post #26 of 50
What would make me upgrade my iBook?

$$ CA$H $$
15" MacBook C2D 2.33Ghz, ATI 1600 258MB, 120GB HD 5400, 2GB RAM, SuperDrive

17" iMac G5
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post #27 of 50
MOSR (I know, I know!) talks about new iBooks in the 933MHz G3 range by next March. And a possible 14" widescreen format.



I think I could go with that maybe, if it turned out to be true.

I REALLY hate being chained to this desk anytime I want to write, draw, e-mail, surf, listen to iTunes, use Photoshop, etc.

I've never wanted a laptop as bad as I do now, but the TiBook is too expensive (and too fragile/flimsy for my tastes) and the iBook is less powered/spec-ed than what I currently have. I don't want to go BACK (or down) in speed or features.

So I'll wait. No big deal. But the day an iBook comes out that equals or surpasses my iMac (in speed, hard drive, video/graphics), I'm on it!
post #28 of 50
What would it take for me to get a new iBook? Hmm... let's see...

At least a 700MHz G4 (faster would be better)or 1GHz+ G3
At least a Radeon 7500 with 32MB
better battery life
post #29 of 50
I was in an Apple store today, b/c I've recently come into the market for a laptop. I was messing around with the 700MHz iBook and the 800 MHz TiBook. Holy Crap the difference! :eek: In price :eek: and in performance :eek: !

The iBook running 10.2 felt like the 3 year old Dell laptop sitting in the closet (300MHz PII). I was so freaking slooooow at everything. App loading, resizing, scrolling, everything!

I have a good friend with a 500 iBook and he loves it. But, there's no way I could go from using a screaming desktop machine to that slow-a$$ thing. Maybe some more RAM would've helped (I know it would), but still....

I'm saving up for the next TiBook now.
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[quote]Originally posted by Matsu:
<strong>BeNiceOrYouHaveToUseAWindowsBox,

You have the most annoying fvcking screen name I've ever seen. Mods, please delete this retarded a$$hole's account and ban his IP. Do we have to have fvcked up formatting anywhere this turkey posts?

Thanks,

great job everywhere else.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I am amazed by the expressive power of your writing and the deep insights you share with us. This must easily be the most informative post in this thread -- amazing ...
post #31 of 50
I'd upgrade my Lombard if the damn ibook ever gets a PC Card slot.
post #32 of 50
I Have Questions: that reminds me of something else the iBook needs: more RAM (urgently!). Why only 128MB on the 12.1" iBook?
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post #33 of 50
What I want in an iBook...

13.1 inch screen in 12.1 inch iBook case or maybe slightly larger... just slightly
800Mhz G4 w/133 Mhz bus
ATI Radeon 7500 with extended desktop
40GB HD
Combo drive
titanium color not material
post #34 of 50
applenut, why not go for the 13.3 screen? I hear they are much more abundant in supply and would be much cheaper to make.
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[quote]Originally posted by BNOYHTUAWB:
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I am amazed by the expressive power of your writing and the deep insights you share with us. This must easily be the most informative post in this thread -- amazing ...</strong><hr></blockquote>

You know, I try. Thanks for noticing, like many geniuses I often go un-appreciated. Welcome to AI.
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[quote]Originally posted by BNOYHTUAWB:
<strong>I am amazed by the expressive power of your writing and the deep insights you share with us.</strong><hr></blockquote>

In any case, BNOYHTUAWB, thanks for shortening your login name. It will be tougher to pronounce, but definitely easier on the eyes (and our nerves), which is what matters online.

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[ 08-21-2002: Message edited by: Escher ]</p>
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Until we get a 3 lbs sub-PowerBook, the 12-inch PowerBook will do.
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Or you could use the spacebar.
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post #38 of 50
Hah. I just replaced my 500 mhz iBook yesterday (ordered it anyway). What made me do it?

My wife.

I switched from Windows to Mac about 14 months ago, and the iBook has been my only Mac I've ever owned. I've got the RAM and the hard drive maxed out (20gigs at the time and 640MB). I was hoping to add to it (not replace it with) a tower so I could have access to a G4, a larger hard drive, more RAM capacity, built in audio inputs, and a superdrive. But my wife needs a laptop for school, so we talked about it and, since I still need a laptop for work, she's taking my iBook and we ordered me a new iBook. So we're about to become total DINKs with matching laptops. Great.

Similar specs 700 mhz vs. 500 mhz. 40gig hard drive vs. 20. Maxed out RAM again (second 512MB module I've ordered from MemoryX in a year--hah). I think the only other difference is I've got a built-in microphone. Oh and a combo drive. They don't have the DVD-only drive option anymore, so I had to "settle" for the combo.

So the tower will have to wait at least another year.

If I hadn't needed a replacement laptop and had need of it now, then I would've held out until I got the TiBook with a 12.1" screen. Larger hard drive, more RAM, audio input, and a G4. I know, why not just get a TiBook? Part of it's expense, but more it's the physical size of the thing. I wouldn't give up the form factor for anything. So until they make a mini-TiBook--I don't care what color--well, okay, nothing offensive--I'll stick with the laptop I've got.

A Superdrive in the TiBook might make me reconsider that as an option, though.

Alex.
post #39 of 50
having spent the last two days setting up a new ibook 700 for a friend, i can say that i am in love with it. if i had the $$$, i would buy one without question. BUT...

a.) the ram allotment MUST go to 1 GB. i might not pop it in right away, but i want the option down the road to fight off obsolesence.

b.) i really want a g4, any speed. the g3, even at 700 mhz, feels sluggish at times (though it was hard to discern g3 slowdowns from hard disk paging slowdowns)

c.) graphics that allow for quartz extreme. if it's in mac os x's future, then i want my laptop built for that future.

those three things will get my cash. period. no matter what mrs. rok says.

p.s. i had been really worried that the 12.1" screen would feel cramped, but it was perfectly fine and VERY crisp, and made it feel incredibly portable - i feel like throwing it into my case (gently, or course) was a no-brainer, whereas the larger ibook and tibook require me to "lift" it. in fact, the 14.1" ibook just feels BIG, especially with all that heavy plastic.

[ 08-21-2002: Message edited by: rok ]</p>
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post #40 of 50
The new iBook CAN run QE. It has a 16MB Mobility Radeon 2X AGP.
14" iBook
700MHz G3
640MB RAM

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