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post #201 of 366
So is there a PC program which can 'tune in' to these daap things? I'd like to listen to my home music collection from the office.
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Guys: when you're in my library, it'd be really nice if you'd give a courtesy shout on iChat so i know who the hell's on.

I feel bad disconnecting people.

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It's the polite thing to do.

This is a good idea. Okay listen up people. Changed your shared name to your iChat name so we can let you know we are listening.
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post #203 of 366
ServerShare is an app that has all the public shared iTunes libraries as a database, and you can add yours ...
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post #204 of 366
I've got a router between me and my cable modem. Anybody figure out what port is being used so I can set up the right port forwarding and be able to turn on sharing?
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post #205 of 366
Maybe this was discussed...maybe not but how do you get an IP address from Airport? Since it uses NAT...

If you could help me figure it out I will broadcast 29,356 songs
post #206 of 366
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I've got a router between me and my cable modem. Anybody figure out what port is being used so I can set up the right port forwarding and be able to turn on sharing?

Ah... I guess the answer is 3689. I didn't notice how many pages of discussion had already occurred when I asked the question.

When I get home, I'll have to try this out.
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post #207 of 366
Thanks, Mulattabianca... but the new look of VT blows.
post #208 of 366
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Originally posted by chic4mac
FLick, I would need step by step instructions on how to share. I don't have any airport card..assuming I don't need that. Just a DSL connection, a linksys router that networks to macs (imac 500 and emac 700)

if you want to tell me how to share music, I would gladly take your 20 gigs, and you can have my 2

Sadly I haven't Figured it out yet either, My office Setup is like yours, DSL With a router and three Macs connected Via Ethernet..
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post #209 of 366
You need to forward port 3689 to the mac doing the serving.

I'm going to break this down, it's impossible for me to walk you through it because I don't know your router.

Here's your network as I understand it

Internet<->DSL Modem<->Router<->Mac Serving iTunes

Go ahead and forget about the DSL Modem, all that concerns us is the router configuration, and how it affects you.

You need to access your routers configuration and configure it to forward port 3689 to the mac doing the serving. For this you will need.

1. Access to your routers configuration. (read your manual)
2. The local IP of the mac doing the serving.

If you've lost the manual then you can try just logging in to your router from a web browser, explained below.

To get the ip of the mac doing the serving open up System Preferences on the mac that will serve up iTunes. Click on Network, the blue globe. Your IP address wil be right next to the text IP Address:, in the format of xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx with the x's as numbers While you're hear, if you lost the router manual, grab the router's IP address. It will be right next to the text Router: in the same form.

Now, go to a browser, ie. Safari/Camino/IE and pop in your router's IP address, you might be prompted for a password. I can't help you here. Default passwords are usually something like admin/pass/password or just blank. Google around for your router manufacturers default password. If you set it and forget it, well you might be SOL. OK, now find the option for port forwarding, you might have to dig around, it is sometimes termed virtual server. When you find it, it should look something like this...



In the IP field, place the IP of the mac serving up the tunes. In the port field, put 3689. Make sure to hit any Save or Apply buttons you see.

Last, but not least, go into iTunes/Preferences/Sharing, enable sharing, of your entire library, or selected playlists only if you wish, don't give it a password, title it whatever you want.

Laster, go to http://www.whatismyip.com, that is the ip address all your macs have on the outside world, on the real internet, as opposed to your home network. Come back here, and post it, we should be able to connect from within iTunes/Advanced/Connect to shared music libraries, if you want to get fancy with it you can make links, on a website, or inside of these posts, to your music. You can even add a link to your music in your proflie.

Links to iTunes libraries are preceded by daap:// much like websites are preceded by http:// so the url to your music would be daap://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx with the IP being your real ip you got from whatismyip.com

What is essentially happening is that your real ip, the one given to you by your isp is a unique identifier. multiple computers can't have it- a router will take that one ip, and share it among several computers- faking one computer. this is why you have an ip that isn't your real ip, it's just one that is used on your home network, behind your router. When we request your music, over port 3689, the router doesn't know what to do with our request coming over port 3689- it doesn't know what mac is acception data on port 3689- so it just drops it. You need to tell your router that requests that come on port 3689 are for your mac, and to forward the port to you, instead of just dropping the data.

If these became way too simplistic don't take offense, I don't know your level of knowledge and it seems many around here are having trouble. Hopefully this will help someone.

post #210 of 366
Man, this is so bad ass.
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post #211 of 366
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Originally posted by Not Unlike Myself
So is there a PC program which can 'tune in' to these daap things? I'd like to listen to my home music collection from the office.

i've been investigating this myself, and i'm pretty sure that the protocol is fairly new (or possibly proprietary). either way, i'm working on decoding it so *nix users (and maybe even evil win'rs) can tune in. which brings me to my next point:

any competant programmers out there want to help crack daap? i could use some assistance.
post #212 of 366
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Originally posted by serrano
What is essentially happening is that your real ip, the one given to you by your isp is a unique identifier. multiple computers can't have it- a router will take that one ip, and share it among several computers- faking one computer. this is why you have an ip that isn't your real ip, it's just one that is used on your home network, behind your router. When we request your music, over port 3689, the router doesn't know what to do with our request coming over port 3689- it doesn't know what mac is acception data on port 3689- so it just drops it. You need to tell your router that requests that come on port 3689 are for your mac, and to forward the port to you, instead of just dropping the data.

For added emphasis, let me add that this means that only one computer at a time in this kind of network will be able to share its iTunes library. If Mama Bear and Papa Bear and Baby Bear all want to share iTunes at the same time, they need their ISP to give them multiple fixed IP addresses, or they're SOL.
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post #213 of 366
Yes we need a "Recent servers..." list, Buddy list, and centralized tracker server. ShawnPatrickJoyce your machine rebuffered a lot for me, I'm on a T3. This is so cool.
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post #214 of 366
i will say what everyone else has... this rules like nothing else. i have listened to so much music from so many artists who i have NEVER listened to before... wow.
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post #215 of 366
More joy for mankind...

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post #216 of 366
will someone try mine

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post #217 of 366
i'm back


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post #218 of 366
69.3.67.102 Have at it, but please visit my topic on how to share: HELP! and help me get your tunes!

I only have 250 songs...everthing under the sun.
post #219 of 366
OK, I took an earlier suggestion and signed up with dyndns.org so I could have an address that still points to my iTunes library even when my IP changes. SO...

My shared iTunes 4 playlists

Currently I've got three separate collections each totaling more than 24 hours. WMLN Radio has a bit of everything in it, the Jazz/Blues/Bluegrass playlist has, well, jazz, blues and bluegrass, and the Live playlist has live music. I've got about three more days worth of music that I can swap in and out of playlists, too. Most of the tracks are 192 Kbps mp3s from my own CD collection.

Drop me an IM (mlnortonjr@mac.com) if you're listening. Between AI and Metafilter members, there always seems to be about four or five people connected to me.
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post #221 of 366
tiger, that is not your IP address....

click http://www.whatismyip.com/ to find your correct IP


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post #222 of 366
That's exactly what I did. Exactly what I got.
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post #223 of 366
sorry, my bad then....but i can't connect to that ip at this time.....


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post #224 of 366
Here's mine again: 24.136.234.83

It will be up all night. Let me know if you're listening (I'll be up for a little while longer, at least - torifile at mac dot com is my screen name change the "at" to "@" and "dot" to ".")
post #225 of 366
got you shetline...very consistent list you have there...haven't listened to laurie anderson in a while...had fun at her concert sometime in the early 80's....lots of female artists...good for you...i would assume you are about my age, plus or minus 5 years....

thanks for sharing


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post #226 of 366
Can someone test mine. Here is my REAL IP

69.3.67.102
post #227 of 366
Im back.
<<Removed>>
this IP will be permanent the whole summer... (as long as I am here ) so it can be added to the address book group...
give me a shout on iChat: psantora<at>mac<dot>com...

torifile, thanks for the Airport forwarding screenshots
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post #228 of 366
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Im back.
REMOVED
this IP will be permanent the whole summer... (as long as I am here ) so it can be added to the address book group...
give me a shout on iChat: psantora<at>mac<dot>com...

torifile, thanks for the Airport forwarding screenshots

np. glad they worked.
post #229 of 366
w00t...lots of music there paul.....


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i'm checkin' in.....where does everyone find these simpson songs??


my name was brian magee
i stayed up listening to queen
when i was seventeen
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post #230 of 366
I will never tire of this. Just connected to Paul's library, hit shuffle and went from Dylan's Hurricane to Dead Kennedy's California Uber Alles. Who needs the radio any more? Side note: Anyone having any luck with Konfabulator's RendezWho widget? I get the crazy spinning wheel almost all the time.
post #231 of 366
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Can someone test mine. Here is my REAL IP

69.3.67.102

Couldn't connect- server not respondng.
post #232 of 366
it is midnight and i am turning into a pumpkin (head)....night all, thanks for the tunes, thegelding computer is heading to bed



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w00t...lots of music there paul.....


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i'm checkin' in.....where does everyone find these simpson songs??


my name was brian magee
i stayed up listening to queen
when i was seventeen

they put out CDs... but i had broadband when napster was big...

im starting to build a legal collection too tho...

whats your iChat name? notnearlysane?
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post #234 of 366
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it is midnight and i am turning into a pumpkin (head)....night all, thanks for the tunes, thegelding computer is heading to bed



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well nevermind then... i'll have to listen to the rest of revolver another time...
have a good night.
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post #235 of 366
130.156.137.189

It's not much. Enjoy!!!
post #236 of 366
I can't connect to any of your streams \

I have a cable connection and all I get when I connect to 1 of your streams is a connecting to server playlist on the left side of iTunes but it disappears after 1 second

I'm not behind a router or something like that...

what's the problem?

can you try to connect to my library?

my ip: daap://213.119.154.93

edit: hmm strange, whatismyip.com says I have some other ip daap://213.224.83.135

89,9 gig to share! ;-)
post #237 of 366
skippity, but it works
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post #238 of 366
sorry to cut you off paul.....i will be back on tonight around 7 mountain time....yes, that is my iChat name...you are welcome to stream my tunes, IM me if you want me to leave the computer on longer because you are in the middle of listening to something...i just don't like leaving the computer awake all night because the screen keeps powering up every minute or two when iTunes is streaming....maybe i just need a black background...also the fan runs all night then...not that it is loud on my iMac FP, but i kinda don't like it working all the time...maybe i should get an Xserve just to stream tunes?


i will keep adding cds every night i can....i look at my itunes and think, damn i have to clean that mess up....oh well...


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ps...i will take suggestions on things to add...i may not have it, but i have tons of cd's i haven't encoded to my iTunes yet and you just might get lucky...
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post #239 of 366
its cool, and i know about that screen thing...

the way around it is to turn off the backlight (F13, F14, or F15 i believe...)

but its no big deal...
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post #240 of 366
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got you shetline...very consistent list you have there...haven't listened to laurie anderson in a while...had fun at her concert sometime in the early 80's....lots of female artists...good for you...i would assume you are about my age, plus or minus 5 years....

thanks for sharing

My age would be 40 if that helps your perspective.

I'm not sure why it turns out this way, but I find a lot more intelligent, thoughtful, soulful, and poetic lyrics and singing coming from female singer/songwriters than male, although there are obviously plenty of exceptions.

Then again, maybe liking the music of so many women is just a simple matter of sex appeal.

I only saw Laurie Anderson in concert once, that was in the 90s for me. Great show, not just the music and the visuals, but the way she creates a cozy rapport with the audience.
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