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post #241 of 445
[quote]Originally posted by mrmister:
I feel so used!<hr></blockquote>

1: No one has shown its a fake.
2: No one has shown it is real.

(The url link means little. Perhaps we should ask FormerLurker where he found it. Any picture could be hosted anywhere.)

So, in short, one can still hope. I remain skeptical, but I also retain a piqued interest.

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post #242 of 445
isn't it funny thst the majority of people here (me included) can't resist jumping in feet first?

'its a fake!'

'oh i wish it wasn't a fake because its cool'

<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />

we are a funny lot...
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post #243 of 445
Anyone ever think that maybe the viao pic is a fake from Apple meant to throw us off? Huh? Apple has throw us off before

j/k
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post #244 of 445
[quote]Originally posted by KidRed:
<strong>Anyone ever think that maybe the viao pic is a fake from Apple meant to throw us off? Huh? Apple has throw us off before
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Uh, go to the Sony VAIO site and you will see plenty of official pictures of this particular VAIO model. The Apple version is fake. The hinge is the same, the size is the same, the lid is the same. Notice how the lid is slightly smaller han the base? Same. Same. Same. It is now a proven fact. Why would Apple make something so totally useless? Have you ever used one of these VAIO sub-subnotebooks? Nothing to see here. Move along. Use logic and common sense and redirect your positive energies into something more likely like say, oh, a new PowerBook G4 or maybe even an iBook G4. Concentrate! Focus!
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post #245 of 445
[quote]Originally posted by apple.otaku:
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Uh, go to the Sony VAIO site and you will see plenty of official pictures of this particular VAIO model. The Apple version is fake. The hinge is the same, the size is the same, the lid is the same. Notice how the lid is slightly smaller han the base? Same. Same. Same. It is now a proven fact. Why would Apple make something so totally useless? Have you ever used one of these VAIO sub-subnotebooks? Nothing to see here. Move along. Use logic and common sense and redirect your positive energies into something more likely like say, oh, a new PowerBook G4 or maybe even an iBook G4. Concentrate! Focus!</strong><hr></blockquote>

I guess you missed the 'J/K' after my post. The 'J' stands for JUST and the 'K' stands for kidding. In other words after reading my post you would know I was just kidding and not think I was serious.

Focus on reading more thoroughly
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post #246 of 445
[quote] I guess you missed the 'J/K' after my post. The 'J' stands for JUST and the 'K' stands for kidding. In other words after reading my post you would know I was just kidding and not think I was serious.<hr></blockquote>

Hmmm. I've never heard that particular shorthand.
post #247 of 445
[quote]Originally posted by KidRed:
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I guess you missed the 'J/K' after my post. The 'J' stands for JUST and the 'K' stands for kidding. In other words after reading my post you would know I was just kidding and not think I was serious.

Focus on reading more thoroughly </strong><hr></blockquote>

I was replying to Mandricard actually and those who still insist its real. Never heard j/k used before. Round here we use <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> or for sarcasim. Looks like we won't see anything Wednesday though, more like the second week of November at this rate.

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post #248 of 445
[quote]Originally posted by apple.otaku:
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I was replying to Mandricard actually...</strong><hr></blockquote>

Oh? I'm sorry, but you replied to my post that was quoted in your message, so i obviously assumed....

[quote]Hmmm. I've never heard that particular shorthand.
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You're J/K right?
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post #249 of 445
Yes, clicked the wrong reply apparently. I see.
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post #250 of 445
seanyepeaz is buying stamps as we speak...
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post #251 of 445
...and money orders. I don't want my dollar bill being stolen by a postman
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post #252 of 445
MacBidouille rocks! They have posted proof that the slot-load laptop "Superdrive" exists. So if its true the next PowerBooks will have these but no Bluetooth I must ask... what the hell is the holdup with Bluetooth? Plenty of adaptors around so what's the problem building it in? Strange.
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post #253 of 445
[quote]Originally posted by apple.otaku:
<strong>MacBidouille rocks! They have posted proof that the slot-load laptop "Superdrive" exists. So if its true the next PowerBooks will have these but no Bluetooth I must ask... what the hell is the holdup with Bluetooth? Plenty of adaptors around so what's the problem building it in? Strange.</strong><hr></blockquote>

link???
post #254 of 445
[quote]Originally posted by filmmaker2002:
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link???</strong><hr></blockquote>

It's in the maccnn powerbook forum which seems to be down right now or I'd post it. It's just a tiny box, not much to look at but i guess it's existence is good for a PB update soon
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post #255 of 445
Are people clamoring for bluetooth? I'm not. What's the point?

If cellular phones are becoming PDAs, I'd rather just have a USB or firewire port on the phone. The only thing which came to mind when Bluetooth is demonstrated is "damn, that was slow as a dead slug" and "what was the point of this again?"
post #256 of 445
About bluetooth and wireless, I like Apple's airport scheme myself. I think it could have been better had they just worked antennea leads into an otherwise standard PC-Card slot so that airport cards would work, but alternatively, soi would regular PC-Cards, however that's besides the point for now.

Cards are good, standards are changing (and while 11b should be the baseline you never know exactly what you're workplace or campus will do. Currently, we have 11Mbs 11b, a 22Mbps variant of the same, and backwards compatible 54Mbps 11g all at 2.4Ghz, then there is 54Mbps 11a and a 72Mbps variant at 5Ghz, expect a few different encryption levels before this is all settled down. The best thing Apple could do is provide antennea that work in both the 2.4 and 5Ghz range (iThink they're only 2.4 atm) so that they can update the cards if significant changes happen along the way.

Speaking then of cards, why not just implement bluetooth on the airport card itself? It should be cheap to do and it gives an instant solution to millions of macs out there, perhaps even a reason for some to spring for an airport card.
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post #257 of 445
[quote]Originally posted by filmmaker2002:
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link???</strong><hr></blockquote>

It was actually posted on the 16th but we all missed it...

<a href="http://www.macbidouille.com/niouzcontenu.php?date=2002-10-16" target="_blank">Click to see article</a>
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post #258 of 445
[quote]Originally posted by apple.otaku:
<strong>MacBidouille rocks! They have posted proof that the slot-load laptop "Superdrive" exists. So if its true the next PowerBooks will have these but no Bluetooth I must ask... what the hell is the holdup with Bluetooth? Plenty of adaptors around so what's the problem building it in? Strange.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Price? Maybe Apple's saving bluetooth in case they don't have enough stuff to create the next update. DVD-R is already a pretty expensive upgrade alone and the laptop version must be much more expensive.
post #259 of 445
[quote]Originally posted by apple.otaku:
Uh, go to the Sony VAIO site and you will see plenty of official pictures of this particular VAIO model. <hr></blockquote>

I went, and did not see it. Could you post a link?

I do not necessarily believe this picture is of a real thing, but I certainly would like to. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
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post #260 of 445
Its right here.

<a href="http://www.macbidouille.com/news/photonews11/DVDmultislotin.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.macbidouille.com/news/photonews11/DVDmultislotin.jpg</a>


damn i wish this new stuff would come out. im ready to make the switch to apple!
post #261 of 445
[quote]Originally posted by sunkist:
Its right here.<hr></blockquote>

I was talking about the Vaio that has been doctored in the picture.

Thanks though.

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[quote]Originally posted by Mandricard:
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I was talking about the Vaio that has been doctored in the picture.

Thanks though.

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The link was already posted on page 6 of this very thread.
post #263 of 445
Actually, the fake is based on the original PCG-U1 VAIO model:



Click <a href="http://www.sony.jp/products/Consumer/PCOM/PCG-U1/Images/wallpaper_pop_01.jpg" target="_blank">here</a> for a full size image of the VAIO.

Now look at the proposed PowerBook Duo below. Look familiar?



It's a bad photoshop job really. I mean, look at how terrible the Apple logo is. It was just the ad copy that made it seem real. Consider it officially debunked.

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post #264 of 445
Ouch.

It really is bad.
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post #265 of 445
dont know how big of a distributor TechData is for Apple but they are out of stock of Ti 800 (have been for a while)... order status indicated about 75 units past due and another 75 due 11/5...
post #266 of 445
[quote]Originally posted by Kecksy:
<strong>Sure everyone wants Apple to release new PowerBooks, but how many of you are actually going to buy one? Very few I bet, and maybe this is why Apple is holding off until they can produce something truly drool worthy.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I am. COME ON JANUARY! Daddy wants a new pair of heatsinks!
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post #267 of 445
Just got this confirmed by my Apple dealer in Belgium: all Powerbook AND iBook models are out of stock. 3-4 weeks waiting time. They admitted that this means new models are coming soon. There is no other reason why production of the current models would have stopped.
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post #268 of 445
New PBs will be released in late January. It'll be part of the "largest hardware upgrade presentation in the history of Apple".

The inclusion of Bluetooth in all models bar iBook enables the "desktop" models to be delivered with wireless keyboards/mice/(penpads?); for the PowerBook, the PR will focus on the previously presented cellphone "wireless connectivity" argument. Of course, this is all mostly parsley to distract the dinner guests from noticing that the CPU roast hasn't increased much since last year*.

And wireless connectivity to printers, enabled by RendezVous, will be another major stunt.

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post #269 of 445
whats your source on this? <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />
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post #270 of 445
Wireless printers: yay!
Wireless keyboards: boo!

That is all.
post #271 of 445
So what 9 months to slightly bump the PB and give it bluetooth? No, I think we will get it by the first week of Nov.
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post #272 of 445
[quote]Originally posted by engpjp:
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The inclusion of Bluetooth in all models bar iBook enables the "desktop" models to be delivered with wireless keyboards/mice/(penpads?); for the PowerBook, the PR will focus on the previously presented cellphone "wireless connectivity" argument.

And wireless connectivity to printers, enabled by RendezVous, will be another major stunt.

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So Powerbooks will be capable of wireless internet access and wireless printing via bluetooth, but iBooks won't? This makes no sense.
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post #273 of 445
[quote]Originally posted by Ensign Pulver:
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So Powerbooks will be capable of wireless internet access and wireless printing via bluetooth, but iBooks won't? This makes no sense.</strong><hr></blockquote>

well bluetooth has nothing to do with internet access that is airport unless you are talking about going through a phone with bluetooth, but you are right I would think that all portables will have built in bluetooth.

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post #274 of 445
wouldn't it be f-ing awesome if Steve Jobs was introducing the new Bluetooth powerbook with final version of isync, when some lackey walks out with two unopened boxes...one an HP or Epson Printer and the other a Sony Ericsson mobile phone...the lackey then unpacks the boxes on a table near the Powerbook and Steve prints a picture and syncs to the phone wirelessly across the stage, using the Powerbook. That would be a great presentation of the new technology.
post #275 of 445
[quote]Originally posted by KidRed:
<strong>So what 9 months to slightly bump the PB and give it bluetooth? No, I think we will get it by the first week of Nov.</strong><hr></blockquote>I don't think it should be looked at in terms of how long / how big of a jump.

You have to take into account whether it makes sense to bump in a short time, given the cost involved in manufacturing a new product, sellin off old products, etc. In short, how expensive is it to Apple to upgrade?

Signs do seem to point to a revision soon (e.g. low stock), but I remember so many reports of low stock and "CompUSA has EOLed the PowerBook!" that never amounted to anything in the past that I don't trust them.

PowerBooks have been upgraded at about a 9-month cycle. It would be historically very unusual for this current PBook, which became available in early May 2002, to be upgraded in early November, which would be only 6 months.
post #276 of 445
Do PowerMacs and Powerbooks use exactly the same processors?

Speed bump, some new features (e.g. bluetooth) or major overhaul (unlikely)?

Will the OpenFirmware monitor spanning hack hack work with [theoretical] new iBooks?

Make of this what you will but iBooks are nearing sold out in the UK (dabs.com have ~50 of the 700MHz combo iBooks, John Lewis have none at their online store). Dabs' wait time for TiBooks is 3-4 weeks.
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post #277 of 445
[quote]Originally posted by sunkist:
<strong>Its right here.

<a href="http://www.macbidouille.com/news/photonews11/DVDmultislotin.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.macbidouille.com/news/photonews11/DVDmultislotin.jpg</a></strong><hr></blockquote>

I know MacBidouille has posted accurate rumors in the past. But what proves that MacBidouille (or their sources) didn't just mistake a slot-load Combo drive for a slot-load SuperDrive? An official press release would be a lot more credible than this picture.

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post #278 of 445
[quote]Originally posted by FlashGordon:
<strong>wouldn't it be f-ing awesome if Steve Jobs was introducing the new Bluetooth powerbook with final version of isync, when some lackey walks out with two unopened boxes...one an HP or Epson Printer and the other a Sony Ericsson mobile phone...the lackey then unpacks the boxes on a table near the Powerbook and Steve prints a picture and syncs to the phone wirelessly across the stage, using the Powerbook. That would be a great presentation of the new technology.</strong><hr></blockquote>

More in tune with reality is that the printer wouldn't work so Steve would pick it up and hurl at the lackey
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post #279 of 445
[quote]Originally posted by KidRed:
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More in tune with reality is that the printer wouldn't work so Steve would pick it up and hurl at the lackey </strong><hr></blockquote>

that would be awesome too. either way we get something awesome.
post #280 of 445
I think that we are gonna have to put a year after oct 15th pretty soon! This is so rediculous!
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