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post #41 of 445
10/5/02 at 2:11pm
Your misinterpreting my reasoning. Dual processors are a whole different kinda party (FOABH talk). I will bet anyone on this board money that dual processor laptops in the same form factor they are in now will not appear in the next year or 2, if at all.
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post #42 of 445
10/5/02 at 6:00pm
Something of note...you guys are all talking about the Powebook and have missed something. CompUSA has stopped listing the low end iBook on their website. When CompUSA discontinues an Apple product, it's because they know something.
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post #43 of 445
10/5/02 at 6:47pm
[quote]Originally posted by Miami Craig:
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*CONFIRMED* NO DUAL PROCESSOR POWERBOOKS

JD: If a rep is feeding you that garbage about powerbooks, not only is he a complete moron, but for you to actually believe him saying "wouldn't an extra CPU be worth a couple weeks and a couple hundred to you?"
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I didn't say I believed it, only passing it on...



BTW, where's your offensive, "This thread is gay" pic? Don't you want to spread your redneck vibe through this thread?
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post #44 of 445
10/5/02 at 8:29pm
[quote]Originally posted by jpcrumley:
<strong>CompUSA has stopped listing the low end iBook on their website.</strong><hr></blockquote>Interesting, indeed. But maybe it's because the 600 MHz iBook doesn't sell well, esp. at Comp USA.

I really, really, really hope there are new PowerBook G4s soon. I beg. I plead. Just give me a damn new model to buy! For crying out loud, Apple. You're torturing me. Stop the misery. Ease the pa........okay I think you get my point.
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post #45 of 445
10/5/02 at 10:54pm
[quote]Originally posted by Junkyard Dawg:
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I didn't say I believed it, only passing it on...



BTW, where's your offensive, "This thread is gay" pic? Don't you want to spread your redneck vibe through this thread?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Actually all the threads i've seen him post that pic, the thread was very deserving of it. And there are few rednecks in miami, if any. True there are alot of rednecks in Florida (it being the south and all) miami seems to be more of a mix of many many differnt nationalities and backgrounds (latino probably being the pradomenent).
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post #46 of 445
10/6/02 at 9:40am
We're gonna get a speed bumped PowerBook G4 before any new form factor, so chill fellas! Faster processors and maybe the DVD-RW this go-round.

Once again, my friend in Cupertino said the faster PowerBooks were an outside possibility for this past MWNY, and certainly Steve wanted it, but there was a shortage of the faster processors (haven't we all gotten sick of hearing that one?) and some other issues that pushed the timing way back. But once upon a time, the game plan was for faster PBs this past July. He also says there is another form factor in the works but only in the advanced planning stages, and no clear consensus on replacing the Ti Book or introducing another model. If a new PB is introduced along side the Ti then it might well be the end of the iBook, or even a new iBook altogether. Isn't it about time for a new iBook form factor? How long did we have the clam-shell design before the white iBooks came along?
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post #47 of 445
10/6/02 at 9:45am
not sure if anyone else has noticed this, but J&R is offering the PB 667 (M8591LL) for $100 off ($2399).

it's not advertised (i'm sure this is due to apple's strict reseller rules), but if you give them your email address, they'll send you a link to a page that offers it at the discount...

<a href="http://www.jandr.com/JRProductPage.process?Merchant_Id=1&Section_Id=&Pr oduct_Id=3167241&source=D" target="_blank">Cheaper PB G4</a>

oh yeah, and the 800MHz for $3099 <a href="http://www.jandr.com/JRProductPage.process?Merchant_Id=1&Section_Id=&Pr oduct_Id=3167242&source=D" target="_blank">here...</a>
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post #48 of 445
10/6/02 at 3:28pm
[quote]Originally posted by Thereubster:
<strong>Same with John Lewis in Oxford st.. The size difference between the big Viao with the 16" screen and Powerbook is quite amazing. The Sony is one obese slob compared to the Titianium supermodel...... (7 kg or something fully loaded...Ouch...!)</strong><hr></blockquote>
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post #49 of 445
10/6/02 at 3:50pm
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<strong>The Edinburgh John Lewis has the thickest Vaio back to back in the display cabinet with the TiBook. Quite a difference.

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Same with John Lewis in Oxford st.. The size difference between the big Viao with the 16" screen and Powerbook is quite amazing. The Sony is one obese slob compared to the Titianium supermodel......
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Let's get a picture of these two together!

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post #50 of 445
10/6/02 at 5:11pm
[quote]Originally posted by clonenode:
<strong>This "new PowerBook" info is funny. You have campus reps or other "vendors" telling people NOT to buy something for another two weeks. Imagine if the Apple Stores didn't make any sales for 2 weeks!</strong><hr></blockquote>

While I do find most of this thread to be a joke my campus store told me to hold off for two weeks on my iBook, that they would be taking another $100 off the price and throwing in AppleCare for free! So I did.

1) The sales clerk is not making comission.
2) On campus, they're just computer geeks making minimum wage selling stuff they're interested in. They like to spout off on their 'insider' knowledge just like everyone else. Mostly it's just the rumor mill at work though.

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post #51 of 445
10/6/02 at 5:16pm
[quote]Originally posted by TommyBrando:
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Actually all the threads i've seen him post that pic, the thread was very deserving of it. And there are few rednecks in miami, if any. True there are alot of rednecks in Florida (it being the south and all) miami seems to be more of a mix of many many differnt nationalities and backgrounds (latino probably being the pradomenent).</strong><hr></blockquote>

It was not necessary <a href="http://forums.appleinsider.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=10&t=002750" target="_blank">here</a>.
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post #52 of 445
10/6/02 at 5:31pm
And look how much heat those revision b 677 mzh powerbooks produced. The fan is on almost constantly and I have a 550 mzh model. Maybe the supposed "dual labtops" have a xserve fan built in! That would keep them cool.
And maybe instead of harddrives in the front like the xserve they could have four batteries.

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post #53 of 445
10/6/02 at 5:54pm
perhaps the powerbooks will use a smaller process and come from that plant belonging to a partner of Moto that they signed a deal with. Thus they could be lower-power chips.
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post #54 of 445
10/7/02 at 4:27am
[quote]Originally posted by jante99:
<strong>And look how much heat those revision b 677 mzh powerbooks produced. The fan is on almost constantly and I have a 550 mzh model. ]</strong><hr></blockquote>

Strange : same config, now with the new 5400rpm 40 Gigs, and I rarely get the fan kicking in (10.1.2 improved things also, it seems), except when I plug an external display.
Where do you work ? Are you using your TiBook on you bed or what : are the air vents free or the TiBook rear is close to a wall/anyhting preventing a good cooling of the case.
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post #55 of 445
10/7/02 at 5:47am
Bizarre but true, but I really hope there are no new Powerbooks this year 'coz I bought a Ti800 10 days ago

I can't sell it and upgrade in 3 weeks... can I?
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post #56 of 445
10/7/02 at 7:06am
[quote]Originally posted by Blackcat:
<strong>I can't sell it and upgrade in 3 weeks... can I?</strong><hr></blockquote>Why not? Our local Mac-buying maniac "murbot" does.

BTW, I think all you guys expecting dual G4s are nuts.
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post #57 of 445
10/7/02 at 8:36am
[quote]Originally posted by jante99:
<strong>And look how much heat those revision b 677 mzh powerbooks produced. The fan is on almost constantly and I have a 550 mzh model. Maybe the supposed "dual labtops" have a xserve fan built in! That would keep them cool.
And maybe instead of harddrives in the front like the xserve they could have four batteries.

[ 10-06-2002: Message edited by: jante99 ]</strong><hr></blockquote> Would the "dual labtops" you mentioned be characterized as "BenchTop Computing"?
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post #58 of 445
10/7/02 at 8:39am
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post #59 of 445
10/7/02 at 8:49am
[quote]Once again, my friend in Cupertino said the faster PowerBooks were an outside possibility for this past MWNY, and certainly Steve wanted it, but there was a shortage of the faster processors <hr></blockquote>

er...

i have a really hard time swallowing the fact that Moto is having problems kicking out 933Mhz and 1Ghz 7455's....
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post #60 of 445
10/7/02 at 9:26am
[quote]Originally posted by Brad:
<strong>Why not? Our local Mac-buying maniac "murbot" does.

BTW, I think all you guys expecting dual G4s are nuts.</strong><hr></blockquote>

3 weeks? Been there, done that.

I am going to be VERY surprised if we don't get a PowerBook update this month. I'll be shocked.

I also think the dual processor thing is crazy. No wonder there is utter disappointment in here after Macworld Expos... you go in with expectations like that and you guarantee yourself to be let down.

Of course I'd love to be proven wrong, and have a dual GHz PowerBook with advanced cooling technology so the fan doesn't come on any more often than it does now... but those are called dreams, kids.

PowerBook update this month, iBook update at MWSF - that's my 2 cents.
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post #61 of 445
10/7/02 at 10:04am
[quote]Originally posted by murbot:
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3 weeks? Been there, done that.
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My girlfriend will go nuts!

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I am going to be VERY surprised if we don't get a PowerBook update this month. I'll be shocked.
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So will I, which annoys me because I should have waited!

[quote]
I also think the dual processor thing is crazy. No wonder there is utter disappointment in here after Macworld Expos... you go in with expectations like that and you guarantee yourself to be let down.

Of course I'd love to be proven wrong, and have a dual GHz PowerBook with advanced cooling technology so the fan doesn't come on any more often than it does now... but those are called dreams, kids. </strong><hr></blockquote>

The only possibility which fits both scenarios would be a powerbook with an MPEG encoder built-in. That would be useful for DVD burning.

What I think we'll get is a 1Ghz Powerbook with ATI Radeon Mobility 9000 and maybe built-in Bluetooth.

I don't think that will make upgrade unless it has the rumoured Superdrives too.
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post #62 of 445
10/7/02 at 10:04am
Why would a dual TiBook be so unlikely? With duals power management could switch processors back and forth to save on battery use as well as solve heat build up problems. Additionally, the greater surface area of two processors would make heat dissipation easier to deal with.
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post #63 of 445
10/7/02 at 1:16pm
[quote]Originally posted by Composer:
<strong>I find it odd that an Apple sales person, or any sales person for that matter would tell anyone to wait. Sales reps do not know anything more than the general public knows. Given that, it's in their best interest to sell you a computer TODAY.

Just a thought...</strong><hr></blockquote>

Not true. The week before the LCD iMac came out (and before the Time Canada leak), I had sales rep (higher up in the food chain) confirm that a new iMac was definitely coming out. They didn't say it, rather I asked them a pointed question, and as you know, body language makes up a good portion of communication. This person said one thing, but their body language conveyed the truth. Kind of like the old saying "Your lips say no, but your eyes say yes."
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post #64 of 445
10/7/02 at 5:28pm
[quote]Originally posted by Miami Craig:
<strong>Your misinterpreting my reasoning. Dual processors are a whole different kinda party (FOABH talk). I will bet anyone on this board money that dual processor laptops in the same form factor they are in now will not appear in the next year or 2, if at all.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Craig, I'll bet you a postcard that the next Powerbook update will have dual processors.

If you win, i'll send you a postcard, If I win, You send me a postcard.
Not to mention we all get dual PBG4's.
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post #65 of 445
10/7/02 at 6:45pm
There have been rumors about dual processor PowerBooks for over a year. I would imagine that if there were prototypes, engineers must surely have been studying the ways to keep them cool; useable. Maybe, for what it's worth, they've unlocked the engineering secrets to making a dual-processor PowerBook not only a reality, but feasible.
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post #66 of 445
10/7/02 at 7:20pm
Heh, I think that this sales rep has probably been reading AI.
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post #67 of 445
10/7/02 at 7:35pm
okay, so now that I've found the perfect <a href="http://www.timbuk2.com/products/sweetpea.html" target="_blank">bag</a> Apple should really release a new powerbook.
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post #68 of 445
10/7/02 at 7:37pm
[quote]Originally posted by gumby5647:
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i have a really hard time swallowing the fact that Moto is having problems kicking out 933Mhz and 1Ghz 7455's....</strong><hr></blockquote>

Why? Motorola has historically had a lot of problems kicking out its high-end processors. Have they suddenly become competent? I don't think so.
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post #69 of 445
10/7/02 at 8:30pm
[quote]Originally posted by Faeylyn:
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Why? Motorola has historically had a lot of problems kicking out its high-end processors. Have they suddenly become competent? I don't think so.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Well appartently they didn't have any problem getting enough 7455's for Dual GHz machines off the fab's. Not to mention, enough left over for sonnet and newer tech, etc to start making upgrades....

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post #70 of 445
10/7/02 at 8:41pm
DAMMIT! I can't WAIT till a suitible portable replacement for a desktop comes around!!!!!!!!!!!waiting for a new/substantial PB re-design is driving ME NUUUTTTTSSSSSSS! :eek: <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" /> <img src="graemlins/surprised.gif" border="0" alt="[Surprised]" /> <img src="graemlins/embarrassed.gif" border="0" alt="[Embarrassed]" />

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post #71 of 445
10/7/02 at 8:49pm
[quote]Originally posted by Eupfhoria:
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Craig, I'll bet you a postcard that the next Powerbook update will have dual processors.

If you win, i'll send you a postcard, If I win, You send me a postcard.
Not to mention we all get dual PBG4's.</strong><hr></blockquote>


Dual postcards. kewl. ;D
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post #72 of 445
10/7/02 at 9:05pm
I find it funny that so many of you guys believe that we will actually see a dual PowerBook. The battery consumption would be enormous and the heat..OUCH!!!1 It is possible to have one processor turned off except when plugged into the wall, but seriously would this halfway defeat the point of having a dual. I mean if you can't use it on the go why put in into a laptop????? But then again you never know what apple will do...
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post #73 of 445
10/7/02 at 9:19pm
with all the hoohah about dual cpu powerbooks
i hereby predict that apple will not release
a dual cpu pb

instead........

they will release a quad pb

thats right 4 cpu's ...each cpu in one corner
with the top protuding out the bottom so it
acts as feet & heatsink....

any takers ?
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post #74 of 445
10/7/02 at 10:37pm
First of all, if you look at the original "dual" post, the sales rep changed the topic to PowerMacs, and how the dual lineup was an attempt to make up for the slow G4 speeds.

But of course duals processor Powerbooks are possible, for many reasons. To begin with, cooling solutions are all over the place
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post #75 of 445
10/7/02 at 10:58pm
Actually, the only thing I think that is less likely than getting dual proc Pb's is getting a postcard when it happens.
I will send one out to the first person willing to take me up on the bet though...
(might as will have a little fun with AI)
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post #76 of 445
10/7/02 at 11:01pm
euphoria.....

done .... your on

ill take the postcard bet...

ai needs to liven up a little
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10/8/02 at 11:11am
Did IBM just announce the next cpu to be used in the iBook?

found this on insanelygreatmac.com
<a href="http://www-3.ibm.com/chips/techlib/techlib.nsf/techdocs/2FF4861D6755A6CA87256BB1006B1DE6/$file/PPC750FX_PB.PDF" target="_blank">New 1Ghz G3</a>

Will Apple use it?? and surpass the Mhz clock of the PowerBooks??and the bus speed???

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post #78 of 445
10/8/02 at 11:52am
[quote]Originally posted by rickag:
<strong>Did IBM just announce the next cpu to be used in the iBook?

found this on insanelygreatmac.com
<a href="http://www-3.ibm.com/chips/techlib/techlib.nsf/techdocs/2FF4861D6755A6CA87256BB1006B1DE6/$file/PPC750FX_PB.PDF" target="_blank">New 1Ghz G3</a>

Will Apple use it?? and surpass the Mhz clock of the PowerBooks??and the bus speed???

[ 10-08-2002: Message edited by: rickag ]</strong><hr></blockquote>

Awww man!! Give me a 1Ghz ibook with a 200mhz FSB please I am begging. I promise to buy one tomorrow apple!!!!!!
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10/8/02 at 12:02pm
[quote]Originally posted by rickag:
<strong>Did IBM just announce the next cpu to be used in the iBook?

found this on insanelygreatmac.com
<a href="http://www-3.ibm.com/chips/techlib/techlib.nsf/techdocs/2FF4861D6755A6CA87256BB1006B1DE6/$file/PPC750FX_PB.PDF" target="_blank">New 1Ghz G3</a>

Will Apple use it?? and surpass the Mhz clock of the PowerBooks??and the bus speed???

[ 10-08-2002: Message edited by: rickag ]</strong><hr></blockquote>

Starting to wonder if Apple should stick with IBM for all it's chips. The G3 with SIMD unit, nice speeds and new bus for iMac and portables and the GPUL for the towers.
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10/8/02 at 12:02pm
[quote]Originally posted by rickag:
found this on insanelygreatmac.com
<a href="http://www-3.ibm.com/chips/techlib/techlib.nsf/techdocs/2FF4861D6755A6CA87256BB1006B1DE6/$file/PPC750FX_PB.PDF" target="_blank">New 1Ghz G3</a>
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This PowerPC G3 is great! with 512k L2 cache and low power consumption design, it is the ultimate CPU for laptops! I hope Apple should use this new G3 chip for upcoming iBooks! IMO, the G3 chip is the perfect fit for the iBook market segment, the iBook users use it for writing reports, presentations, suffering internet and occasionally doing the presentations. With MacOS X.2, a G3 laptop is not slow, I have a ice-iBook 500/320 MB ram, the performance is acceptable while iCal is somehow sluggish, but the overall performance is good. If Apple do use this chip, whoa~ 512k L2 cache, it should retain all the advantages of the current iBook and push the performance to another new high!

Well, by the time, who's gonna buy G4 powerbook? Hmmmm.....by the way, the PIII/M is actually faster than P4/M in lots of tests except these apps. tinkered for sse2, this is just the bloody example of last generation CPU kicking the latest generation CPU's ass.
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