Groverat: Not only the lack of differentiation but also a lack of tact thoroughly out of line for a moderator . . . shame on you young man!!
Grab a dictionary and look up "emeritus" and check the sig. It's all over now, baby blue.
Some people find themselves to be very moral and yet somehow find sexual promiscuity is not immoral, immorality, in cases of sexuality can be seen as more a matter of what spirit it is in: are all parties involved open and involved out of a a love of the body? is there coercion? ect. I have no problem with sex. sex is not immoral.
What if the guy who is lying has been accused repeatedly (over a period of decades) of sexual harrasment and sexual assault? What if the guy is in a position of power and makes promises to an extra-marital sex partner in a lower position than himself?
Clinton was a scumbag, hell he IS a scumbag even today, but that's what modern presidents are. Does it make me morally bankrupt to acknowledge that and not really care all that much, that's your call.
in one case the lie was not political business and should not be made part of the Public concern via the mechanisms of politics . . . as per the example above
whereas the other fib involves the complete reversal of the role of American politics: from being seen as the benign superpower to possibly being seen as the aggressor: a country that invades and takes . . . and kills . . . for reasons that are not to be trusted.
Clinton didn't use lies to kill people? Desert Fox anyone? 33,000 American troops attacking Iraq on the exact same WMD lie? Anyone? Bueller? The same WMD lies that made Clinton push for stronger sanctions that killed ~1 million Iraqis during his terms? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
But no, let's act like all Clinton ever did wrong was get a blowjob, that's easier if our goal is good 'ole fashion partisan bitchin'!
You want a lie that will piss me off? The lies to keep sanctions going; from Bush's daddy, Clinton and Dubya pre-9/11. Just like I don't support sanctions in Cuba.
You are telling us here that not only should Bush be excused for his lies, but that he should be praised for them because according to you, the result was a good one.
Define "excused". Excused from what? Please answer that.
Define "praised". When did I once say he should be praised? Answer that.
Why would I not deduce that you would represent such an opinion to your children? And in turn spawn another generation of liars.
Well you shouldn't come to that conclusion because your entire premise is bullshit.
Tell me, tonton, when the Lewinsky thing went down, were you so full of moral indignation about lying?
Does he think he's God? Apparently you do. Or King. King George the Filth. No. By agreeing to represent the people of the United States of America to the best of his ability, he is agreeing to do so with honesty and integrity.
Yeah, I think he's god. You're obviously thinking about this very intelligently and reasonably.
Do you even read what you write before you post it?
A thief of the freedom of dissent.
How did Bush rob anyone of their right to dissent? I guess those million-strong protests while he lied were figments of my imagination?
I agree. But we're all learning throughout life, are we not? I need to be a little more patient with people who frustrate me.
I'd say drop the drama queen attitude when someone dares say something bad about your precious Democrats and doesn't shit blood at the mere mention of a dirty Republican.
This Limbaugh moral outrage act is ****ing priceless.
But what you are doing is congratulating him for a job well done. That's why I contend (are we getting intimate, now, Groverat?) that you lack morals. Can't you tell the difference?
Am I congratulating him on lying? Am I? Could you show me where?
You can see I'm glad he did what he did (war) and I don't care that he lied to do it. Mainly because it was the exact same lie that kept sanctions on and Saddam in power.
Where was this moral outrage on WMD for the last 12 years, tonton?
There is a difference between the lies Clinton told about his penis and the lies Bush told about the personal safety of the citizens of the United States of America and the reasons for attacking a sovereign nation. If you cannot see that difference then I cannot help you.
Desert Fox. What about Desert Fox?
Were you tongue-lashing and moralizing in 1998 when Clinton bombed the shit out of Iraq on the WMD lie?
Be honest now, tonton, lying is bad!
I love it when hypocrites moralize, it's priceless.
At least it stutters with honest intentions.
You are quite open with your status as a partisan tool and a hypocrite, I must agree.
"Desert Fox?! Uh... well... obviously uh... YOU HAVE NO MORALS! YOU THINK BUSH IS GOD!"