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post #281 of 376
Okay, made a tweak

made it come in on the sides, made the base a long chrome/metal rectangular "sliver", flushed the sides and made it a widescreen display because I think one is coming...

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Originally posted by jante99
A crazy story that is either lightly disguised fact wrapped around the pretext of a corny story or a corny story about every rumor of the past month.

Well, look at this this way. A straight forward report on what Apple is doing will get a cease & desist if they get wind of it. A rambling, amusing little story is just that-- a nice little story. Wanna hear about me and the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders? Fact or fiction? The wife can't say a thing.
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post #283 of 376
This is what I think how the new cinema display will look like.

Sorry for the childlish mockup....I only spent 5 minutes on this.

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post #284 of 376
nice work, Leonis.

is that the new 30 inch HD?
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post #285 of 376
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Okay, made a tweak

made it come in on the sides, made the base a long chrome/metal rectangular "sliver", flushed the sides and made it a widescreen display because I think one is coming...


OOOOooo... link the swiveling "sliver" base on several of these and you'd have an awesome Mobile.
Jonathan Ivey meets Alexander Calder.

got to be able to hang in "upside down" from the base on wall hooks.

if they swivel through 360 degrees, the temptation to play pinball spinner might be tough

it's late. brain slowing. now my dreams are going to be expensive.
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post #286 of 376
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Yeah, except that a fast car helps one get fast women, whereas a fast computer actually is known to interfere with one's ability to get fast women...

Heh, heh.

Filemaker back to the fold? Heh. Safari kicked 'Explorer's' butt...now Filemaker, Keynote and 'Document' (with bundled iConferncing app'?) Now that's what I call an iOffice for the 21st Century.

Safari whooped their ass. Front assault? I can't wait.

Great story on AI's front page. Very clever. Very 'subtle.' Cute.

'Cease and desist'? Only fiction y'honour...pure fan speculation it wuz...

Goes without saying that the new G5s would need a 'G5' display with iMac2 arm technology to go with them. If not 'arms' then something equally as arresting for a 23...30inch(?) display?

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post #287 of 376
Wow, do you guys really think Apple has that much in store(no pun intended) for WWDC? New G5 PowerMacs...brand new 15.? Powerbook.... G5s in all Powerbooks..."new" OS...new Apps...a camera?? I don't know, but if that's the case they will sell a lot of computers the rest of the year...I want mine!
post #288 of 376
you're right, i highly doubt WWDC will be the showcase of all that

BUT.... panther... part of it will be iChat 2... a major feature is gonna be video conferencing.... id imagine they will show that off even at a developers conference.

970.... major news for developers.... probably has to be announced... maybe not to ship though.


new powerbooks..... the powerbook is the most popular developer product. they released new powerbooks at the 99 WWDC I believe and gave one away every hour. Could see something similar.


The other stuff, I dont see being announced there but who knows.
post #289 of 376
I agree Applenut...that is a lot of new sh*t to introduce at a single event. About the video conferencing...I think that if true, Apple is gonna be tapping into a potentially HUGE market. Haven't analysts been saying that video conferencing is gonna be the next big thing the last 18 months or so? I hear video conferencing is VERY expensive at a corporate level...so if Apple designed software somehow managed to provide great quality video not only for corporations but for the masses it could be a very good thing marketshare-wise. Video e-mails anyone?
post #290 of 376
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Originally posted by Gilsch
I agree Applenut...that is a lot of new sh*t to introduce at a single event.

But remember that there won't be a MWNY keynote by Jobs this year.
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post #291 of 376
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Originally posted by Leonis
This is what I think how the new cinema display will look like.

Sorry for the childlish mockup....I only spent 5 minutes on this.


I'm wondering how articulated displays will anchor the base so they're not top-heavy. Buy a display, get a free iMac system as a weight
post #292 of 376
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Originally posted by frawgz
I'm wondering how articulated displays will anchor the base so they're not top-heavy. Buy a display, get a free iMac system as a weight

Well.. There's have already been rumors about the next displays being more light-weighted.. So this might mean that the base dont have to be THAT heavy! And, if we refer to that muckop Leonis posted, the plate that touches the table (Or floor if you will!) might be made of solid metal..

New thoughts btw: 1.42 Ghz PowerMacs have a 3 weeks delivery time now! Where does that get us?
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post #293 of 376
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Originally posted by T'hain Esh Kelch

New thoughts btw: 1.42 Ghz PowerMacs have a 3 weeks delivery time now! Where does that get us?

Still says "Same day" when I try it
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post #294 of 376
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Still says "Same day" when I try it

I found the same thing...
post #295 of 376
This is why writing should be left to the pros:

http://appleinsider.com/article.php?id=115

It's like every Mac rumor ever discussed in the last 12 months wrapped up in the 'I got my Apple friend drunk the other night...' and submitted to Bulwer-Lytton. If anything in this trainwreck of innuendo proves to be true it will be purely coincidental.
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post #296 of 376
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Originally posted by Michael Grey
This is why writing should be left to the pros:

http://appleinsider.com/article.php?id=115

It's like every Mac rumor ever discussed in the last 12 months wrapped up in the 'I got my Apple friend drunk the other night...' and submitted to Bulwer-Lytton. If anything in this trainwreck of innuendo proves to be true it will be purely coincidental.

Why don't you just take it for what it is, some good clean fun?
Geez, people need to lighten up around here!
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post #297 of 376
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Originally posted by Flounder
Why don't you just take it for what it is, some good clean fun?
Geez, people need to lighten up around here!

The guy should at least admit in some way that he gets the flesh for that silly mud in this very forum. Very bad writing indeed.
post #298 of 376
I liked it.

I found it pretty entertaining
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post #299 of 376
must...remove...large pole from rectum....errrrrrr
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post #300 of 376
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Very bad writing indeed.

Its supposed to be bad!

its cheesey pulp fiction. maybe its a language thing. i thought it was hilarious. does it confirm or deny anything. nope. is it food for thought. yep. it was written that way to skirt a c&d.
post #301 of 376
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Originally posted by pscates
Okay, made a tweak

made it come in on the sides, made the base a long chrome/metal rectangular "sliver", flushed the sides and made it a widescreen display because I think one is coming...


I'm sorry, but have you seen a 23"? If you had you'd never put a $2000 monitor on a flimsy little base like that. This thing is 20 something pounds and may balance straight up and down but will surely fall forward or backwards at simple force applied to it. The base is not wide or heavy enough to secure it to the desk.
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post #302 of 376
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Its supposed to be bad!

its cheesey pulp fiction. maybe its a language thing. i thought it was hilarious. does it confirm or deny anything. nope. is it food for thought. yep. it was written that way to skirt a c&d.

I sense a new rumor site on the horizon ...

... MacFiction!

post #303 of 376
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Originally posted by KidRed
The base is not wide or heavy enough to secure it to the desk.

Well it would be......if it weren't made of unobtainium
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post #304 of 376
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Originally posted by jwdawso
Still says "Same day" when I try it

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post #305 of 376
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Originally posted by Flounder
I liked it.

I found it pretty entertaining

The front page story reminds me of something I wrote a long time ago... http://forums.appleinsider.com/showt...apples+secrets
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post #306 of 376
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Originally posted by Frank777
And if Apple actually intends to go head-to-head with MS Office after all these years. Version 1.0 had better be very, very, good.

Competing with Office has always been a direct assault on Redmond. And they will respond accordingly.

Perhaps it's more a response to a Microsoft move than a provocation. MS won the antitrust case, GW is cruising to reelection, and 5 years is a loooong time in software years. While the Cat's away (or disinterested in mouse catching)......
Gee, it's been a while since IE Mac has been updated and now they've said they aren't working on any stand alone versons of IE, hmmm..... Haven't heard much of new Office development recently, hmmm.... In the midst of a lousy economy where no one expects tech spending to increase dramatically (and it has actually been contracting) Apple is spending money to develop and market Keynote competing ith an established market leader, hmmm...
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post #307 of 376
Well, from the 'G5' to the iOffice suite to Safari. If Apple don't compete...if other people don't compete with M$ then they'll go out of business.

I think it's good for Apple to aggressivly ramp up software products. Apple do great software. It's why people prefer Macs.

We just need a great cpu to show it off.

AI's story augers well.

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post #308 of 376
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"...You hear they are moving File Maker back in-house?"

Thank-frikkin-gawd!

Filemaker used to be the shiznit back when I sold Macs for a living (or, more accurately, an air-quote living). Lots of people loved Filemaker.

Ever since they spun it off, it's just been plain old shiznit.

I frankly haven't kept up with it in the past few years. But for those more in the know thatn me, how difficult/desirable would it be to have Filemaker be a combo speadsheet and db app, as part of MacOffice (TM)? Should it be a "combo" app, or should Apple create a new one from scratch?

So would it look like this?
AppleOffice Suite
- Document (Word processing)
- Mail (duh)
- Filemaker (DB...+ spreadsheet?)
- iSpread (spreadsheet if necessary)
- Keynote (duh)
- iCal (duh)
- iChat ("no techies required" videoconferencing)
- Address Book (duh)
- Safari (duh)
- Quicktime Pro (just for the hell of it, and so that annoying upgrade message doesn't pester employees...or just remove the pop-up from the non-pro version)

Note that the only thing missing is the word processing and spreadsheet bits (they are the most important too).

Of course, it would have to be perfectly/seemlessly compatible with MS Office (particularly Document and the spreadsheet app; keynote already is). Have a preference where documents can be saved as MS Word docs by default. It would also have to come close to MS Office's functionality (though Word has a lot of crap that 99% of users don't use or even know about), and exceed its usability.

BTW, on the subject. If Apple really wants to kill MS... give AppleOffice (or whatever it ends up being called) away on all new computers. Sell it retail for $149. Upgrades for free... $49 if necessary ($19 education/bulk). Sell 10-user licenses for $499; unlimited licenses for $999 (isn't that like OS X Server?). Make it irresistable! (particularly in this economy).

On top of that, since WWDC is a developer conference, make it open-source (or at least parts). Contribute it to OpenOffice...or as an alternative...whatever. Duplicate the success with Safari. Also, Apple will want to avoid the security/backdoor problems with MSOffice, along with the "monopoly" accusation (that it's just replacing MS's monopoly). Opensourcing it will help with both problems. The point is to make AppleOffice a vehicle for gaining marketshare and shielding Apple from MS's wrath/BS, not to necessarily make it a cashcow in and of itself.

A gamble? Yes, certainly.

What does Apple have to lose? Not much. Maybe a few million bucks. (It can't lose much more marketshare. )

What does Apple have to gain? Marketshare. Customers. Money. Bragging-rights. Respect.

..Oh...um, since this is FutureHardware, um... make a version available with one of those neato, slim Apple FireWire cameras that connect to those neato new Apple monitors with the USB and FireWire ports. \
post #309 of 376
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Originally posted by Lemon Bon Bon
Well, from the 'G5' to the iOffice suite to Safari. If Apple don't compete...if other people don't compete with M$ then they'll go out of business.

I think it's good for Apple to aggressivly ramp up software products. Apple do great software. It's why people prefer Macs.

We just need a great cpu to show it off.

AI's story augers well.

Lemon Bon Bon

I think Office suites are looking old, and out dated. Keynote was a great fresh look at an office presentation application, and Apple should take refreshing aggressive assault on Office suites. This area in particular would get noticed by all. - I'm not saying this for my own use, but more so to show what Apple is capable of in software innovation, and originality. This coupled with industry shaking competitive hardware (in Speeds) would be an aggressive push that is enough to jump-start the Switchers campaign and get people to take a closer look at Apples i-Suites, and Pro Apps that Apple already has that we are totally aware of, that have been overlooked because Apple is thought of as a Hardware design innovator, but not really a competitor in because of the speed factor.

A few new unseen products (like a Tablet) through out the year, and AAPL will go through the roof.

Now that is my highest fantasy prediction, and the direction I would gone with Apple had I been CEO.


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post #310 of 376
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(It can't lose much more marketshare. )



DCQ, great post. But true.

M$ is looking very dated. And Apple have shown the road to a more innovative 'Office' suite of the future. Keynote looks a whole couple of generations ahead of the 'basic' Powerpoint. Safari makes IE look cluttered and dull. A video conferencing iapp as part of a comprehensive iCal, Document, Filemaker, Keynote et al could really give M$ some competition. What are M$ going to do? Withdraw IE? Well, they're talking about that anyhow. Cancel Office? Well, they said they'd do another version or so. That gives Apple plenty of time to not only bundle what they have but add to the bundle and sell it cheap or give it away free to those 1% of Mac folks that don't use their Macs for creative work.

It's obvious to me that Apple are going to apply the same innovation to software as they have hardware design and 'beyond the box' ala iPod and iTunes Music Store. And that those strategies aren't limited to the Mac platform. Apple aint running scared anymore. Nor should they or would they with Jobs at the helm. No giving away the OS 'look and feel' on his watch...

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post #311 of 376
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A few new unseen products (like a Tablet) through out the year, and AAPL will go through the roof.

Hmmm. All Apple need is a truly 'critical mass' doo-dad.

I'm not sure the iPod is it.

Do I think Apple can make it? Yes. I'm sure they've got some cool gadjet up their sleeves...another beyond the box DLD. What it is...I'm not sure. But I'd have thought some sort of 'tablet' type of thing to bring together a 'relaxed' appreciation of the 'hub' content. Working with the tv/computer/net access. A content viewer without a keyboard. Maybe just a stylus? The iPod is 'just a walkman'. But it is the way Apple brings it all together that surpasses all those other '21st Century' Walkmans. Apple may say: 'No tablet' but it maybe something that circumvents the limitations of PDA/current Tablets. We'll have to see. It'll be the 'same' yet typical Apple different. Though Apple still seem to think computers are it, apart from the iPod...

Perhaps the iTunes Music Store could really get the iPod moving when the store hits Wintel. I don't see Apple waiting for M$ to get there first. This is Apple's chance to print some free money. Heck, those servers should be doing something other than giving .Mac users down time...

Apple's ability to redefine itself under this new management gives me hope Apple will prevail.

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post #312 of 376
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Well it would be......if it weren't made of unobtainium

Found a few pics, for that applle.com site (IIRC but can't connect. anyone know the url?)





Now those could work, the bases look heavy and solid enough to balance the weight.
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post #313 of 376
KidRed,
That first one looks more like a desklamp than my iMac.
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Originally posted by Michael Grey
This is why writing should be left to the pros:

http://appleinsider.com/article.php?id=115

It's like every Mac rumor ever discussed in the last 12 months wrapped up in the 'I got my Apple friend drunk the other night...' and submitted to Bulwer-Lytton. If anything in this trainwreck of innuendo proves to be true it will be purely coincidental.

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

I so WholeHEARTEDly agree!
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post #315 of 376
I also agree, I'm sorry to say. That was pretty bad, not funny, and they're delusional if they think that putting rumors in story terms somehow makes it safe from Apple legal.

That's a separate question, however, from how accurate the predictions are.

And just to throw a wrench in things, Appleturns (the only site that does a good job of mixing humor and rumor) is saying that the G5 will not be ready for WWDC.
post #316 of 376
hopefully

"will not be ready"

and

"will not be ready to ship"

are 2 diff things.
post #317 of 376
actually... that's not what they said...

"Meanwhile, we're hearing the faintest rumblings that the Power Mac G5 may actually not be ready for a WWDC introduction after all. We're not putting a whole lot of stock in said rumblings just yet, but we mention them anyway for the cautious souls among you who choose to temper your enthusiasm with a hefty dose of skepticism. 'Nuff said."
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post #318 of 376
As for the swiveling monitors, you could have a base w/ a counter wieght inside. Think of a circle base that's an inch high. Inside the base is a semi-circle counter weight that's on the opposite site the monitor is. When you rotate the monitor around, the counterweight inside the base moves with it, keeping the monitor balanced at all times, regardless of position. Since it's inside the base, you don't even know it's there (except that it would add alot of weight to the overall monitor). That kind of setup could work really well.
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Originally posted by Ensign Pulver
Yeah, a nice big number that means absolutely nothing. 970 as opposed to what, 870? It's an internal IBM code name that has absolutley ZERO marketing value. Carrying the engineering code name through as the actual retail product name is the brain dead domain of Wintel manufacturers.

"Hi, I'd like to buy a PC."

"Sure, would you like the HP a250y, or the Compaq S4000NX, or maybe a VAIO GRX700?"


Actually, HP uses actual words for its codenames. Stuff like "Tornado" and "NetChevy" (don't ask about that last one, it was a long time ago.).
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Originally posted by BRussell
And just to throw a wrench in things, Appleturns (the only site that does a good job of mixing humor and rumor) is saying that the G5 will not be ready for WWDC.

Oh puh-lease, they still use os9. don't you understand? they're denying it because they'll freak out when they'll finally have to upgrade to osX. they are emotionally stuck in the nineties...
(there is no G5, there is no G5, there is no G5, there is no G5, there is no G5, there is no G5, there is no G5... pleeeeeaaaaaaaaase move along)

btw very off topic but what happend to ting5?
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