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post #761 of 1072
6/20/03 at 3:56pm
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Originally posted by Jamil
What if, Just What if, no one from the Wintel world joins the party?

These machines will surely make the creative world soil their pants but what about the corporate world.

I work for a fortune 500 company with 50,000+ employees, who is 100% wintel on the desktop. I don't see them swtching overnight. We might have the battle tanks to storm Redmond but I don't see any war plan.

SJ better have an enormous and incredible marketing push directed to the corporates, otherwise all of this will fall flat and end up with the current base spending money upgrading and 3% share staying at 3%.

I think you are right, because speed hasn't really been an issue with corporates for some time. Current machines provide all the performance one need to do Word, Excel, and PowerPoint. However, it is a jolly good start, Rome wasn't built in a day. I think the main thing going for Apple is the operating system, sell the fact that they are easy to manage, easy to lock down so that staff can't B****er them up, and are resiliant to viruses and the corporates will start to listen.

Having said this level of performance is going to attract a lot of specialists from gamers to video editing etc.
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post #762 of 1072
6/20/03 at 3:57pm
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Originally posted by fugimax
The only thing I am sad about at this point is not finding out about the G5 while inside the RDF. I'm, of course, VERY happy...but just imagine what this would have felt like in the RDF. People would have *died*

-fugi

Keep in mind, once in the RDF, it has been said that you lose all sense of prior knowledge and memories. That explains how every 6 months riots from the 'where's our G5" clan have not successfully revolted. You have this knowledge now, however, you are missing the prices, the case design, supposed monitors, Panther, and even better if some whispers saying that the specs are low are to be believed!

Never underestimate the power of the RDF.
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post #763 of 1072
6/20/03 at 3:59pm
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Originally posted by Akumulator
Hey man, if you're right on Monday, I'll buy you a............. taco?

Edit:

Don't be ignorant. I'm far from Mexican, we don't eat tacos. I guess if I had a Jewish name you'd offer to buy me a knish?

Please keep your racial stereotypes to yourself.

Thanks!
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post #764 of 1072
6/20/03 at 4:00pm
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Originally posted by Addison
I think you are right, because speed hasn't really been an issue with corporates for some time. Current machines provide all the performance one need to do Word, Excel, and PowerPoint. However, it is a jolly good start, Rome wasn't built in a day. I think the main thing going for Apple is the operating system, sell the fact that they are easy to manage, easy to lock down so that staff can't B****er them up, and are resiliant to viruses and the corporates will start to listen.

Having said this level of performance is going to attract a lot of specialists from gamers to video editing etc.

THe 970 gets us gamers, or at least some, and more pros. Panther will get us the corporates with the help of keynote, iDocuments or Appleworks on steriods or something. Also, new pricing (which is a trend lately) should also make Apple look more attractive. Unix will help mac get a nice share of the market. Windows is the anti-christ now.
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post #765 of 1072
6/20/03 at 4:02pm
Hey, does this imply that the MacBidouille benchmark results are accurate? That would mean that a 1.6 is slightly better than a P4 3.06 at some tasks and a dual 2.0 is 2-3 fold better at those same tasks. That would be amazing.
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post #766 of 1072
6/20/03 at 4:03pm
Play the Quake 3 frame rate guessing game!

how fast is it now on a mac?
how fast on a souped up PC?

wonder how fast it will be on monday.

not that i care. don't have time for games but anything to peev a PC friend about is a good thing...
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post #767 of 1072
6/20/03 at 4:08pm
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Originally posted by keyboardf12
Play the Quake 3 frame rate guessing game!

how fast is it now on a mac?
how fast on a souped up PC?

wonder how fast it will be on monday.

not that i care. don't have time for games but anything to peev a PC friend about is a good thing...

I can just say this is one *bench I could not care less about.

But any pro app.. well... that is a different gig. Make that 2 gigs.
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post #768 of 1072
6/20/03 at 4:10pm
netro:

stop it, you're scaring me.
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post #769 of 1072
6/20/03 at 4:10pm
then you are like me.

but i'd love for the gamer-boppers in pc world to choke on 2nd place.
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post #770 of 1072
6/20/03 at 4:15pm
It will be intresting to see what cards from ati and nvidia we will get with these machenes. If apple says on top of them to alwase have the bleeding edge cards avalible for mac, that will bring more game developers to the mac. Cuz guys, gamers are not gonna come over if there are no games.

Half life 2 and doom 3 available for mac same time as pc, then were in business.

FYI: super OT but MS went with ATI for xbox 2, nvidia said they didnt want to deal with MS's demands...
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post #771 of 1072
6/20/03 at 4:16pm
i'd bet its some nvidia variant that apple will have an exclusive on for 3 months.
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post #772 of 1072
6/20/03 at 4:19pm
As someone previously said (before we found out the specs), G5 is "ONE NASTY, FIRE BREATHING, M0THER FI_ICKER"!!!
I`m thinking about how hard would be to tame that beast!
*reality`s starting to dissapear*
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post #773 of 1072
6/20/03 at 4:21pm
so after the adrenalin rush subsides, how many of you are out there feeling like a broke idiot...? i've lurked in FH for years, waited, expectated, read everything about the 970 I could get my greedy eyes on and STILL managed to be broke when the day finally arrives. Monday I can order nothing cuz I'm a dumb poor whack job no money saving fiznit.

oh yeah, and wooooohoooooooo!
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post #774 of 1072
6/20/03 at 4:23pm
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FYI: super OT but MS went with ATI for xbox 2, nvidia said they didnt want to deal with MS's demands...

really?

link-o?

this should make apple and nvidia a _little_ more buddy buddy...

Is microsoft still "going to create their own CPU" or was that just a ploy to get a better chip price from intel?
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post #775 of 1072
6/20/03 at 4:24pm
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Originally posted by anand
Hey, does this imply that the MacBidouille benchmark results are accurate?

No. Any accuracy in the MacBidouille benchmarks is merely coincidence/luck. They were fabricated. As are the stories about G5 PowerBooks. As are the stories about G5 towers being in production in May.
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post #776 of 1072
6/20/03 at 4:25pm
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Originally posted by DeafeningSilence
so after the adrenalin rush subsides, how many of you are out there feeling like a broke idiot...? i've lurked in FH for years, waited, expectated, read everything about the 970 I could get my greedy eyes on and STILL managed to be broke when the day finally arrives. Monday I can order nothing cuz I'm a dumb poor whack job no money saving fiznit.

oh yeah, and wooooohoooooooo!

I was waiting for 2 years for the G5 and I finally broke down and got the first dual gig. I've been waiting 1 1/2 years since. My machine goes on ebay as soon as the top honcho is shipping.
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post #777 of 1072
6/20/03 at 4:30pm
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Originally posted by keyboardf12
link-o?

I forget where i orginally saw it with the statement from nvidia, but i just found this http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=7204

edit: here it is http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/54/31334.html
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post #778 of 1072
6/20/03 at 4:32pm
HEY...you can't talk about nvidia/ati/xbox here...

i know it was relevant like 10 posts ago...but this is THE G5 post. the post we have all waited to see for years! don't you dare OT here!

-fugi
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post #779 of 1072
6/20/03 at 4:35pm
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Originally posted by moki
No. Any accuracy in the MacBidouille benchmarks is merely coincidence/luck. They were fabricated. As are the stories about G5 PowerBooks. As are the stories about G5 towers being in production in May.

So we only have 20days of stock building in June, eh?
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post #780 of 1072
6/20/03 at 4:35pm
thanks Ti


on topic:

Those new G5's Fan's had _better_ be quiet!

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post #781 of 1072
6/20/03 at 4:37pm
Fans? What...you mean no 40lb. heatsink? hehe
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post #782 of 1072
6/20/03 at 4:38pm
maybe that's what moki means but "heavy"
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post #783 of 1072
6/20/03 at 4:49pm
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Originally posted by moki
Yeah, I'd imagine someone just used the wrong file name, and bam! Either that or Akamai messed up in some way. Regardless.... "yikes"

I would not want to be working at Apple tomorrow.


hrmm. I wish moki had said "oops" instead of "yikes"

"yikes" gives me pause.
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post #784 of 1072
6/20/03 at 4:54pm
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Originally posted by moki
No. Any accuracy in the MacBidouille benchmarks is merely coincidence/luck. They were fabricated. As are the stories about G5 PowerBooks. As are the stories about G5 towers being in production in May.

Moki if the towers weren't in production if May, could have they been in production from June 1st, and at least some models ready for Monday?
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post #785 of 1072
6/20/03 at 4:56pm
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As are the stories about G5 towers being in production in May.

May production or fabrication of cases for the G5 would be correct if a late June-early July release was anticipated. Since components, cases and other sundry items come from outside vendors, there is nothing that would say this would be untrue. Drop in the PP970 board at the very end of production, test the machine, pack them up and send through to Apple's distribution centers. Sounds reasonable to me.
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post #786 of 1072
6/20/03 at 4:56pm
"In the wake of the leaked specs, The Mercury News reports on further signs of IBM/Apple announcements on monday:

IBM has scheduled analyst briefings on the chip to begin after Apple Chairman and Chief Executive Steve Jobs gives his keynote address. A group of IBM engineers has come to Apple's Cupertino headquarters for last-minute preparations. And Apple's close partners say significantly faster Apple machines should arrive before the end of the year.

These hints simply confirm what has been widely expected, and while the question of the PowerMac specs may have been laid to rest (for the non-conspiracy theorists), the questions of shipping time and price remain open."

That's from macrumors.com

can anyone say cha-ching
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post #787 of 1072
6/20/03 at 4:58pm
I think this is the first Apple news that no one has bitched about. Usually there's some excuse to bitch...but I just haven't found one.

-fugi
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post #788 of 1072
6/20/03 at 4:59pm
Well, we haven't seen the case yet... or mouse, or keyboard, or the new displays.

Someone usually finds something to bitch about.
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post #789 of 1072
6/20/03 at 5:02pm
Ah, that's right...

just not used to having *some* information confirmed by Apple without knowing anything else. At least the news about the leak won't have time to really circulate in the mainstream media...being the weekend and all. Steve may still surprise a lot of people who hadn't seen the leak -- though probably no one at the keynote.

Of course, that's just pertaining to the PowerMacintosh stuff. I know he's got more for us. Personally, I want to see the power of these things. I just wanna see a demo of him minimizing 100 windows at once or something with the cpu showing 5% usage.

-fugi
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post #790 of 1072
6/20/03 at 5:02pm
5%??

No way.. I want to see 1000 windows opening using NO CPU. Quartz Extreme all the way! Just kidding...

These machines are sure going to put all of Apples current hardware offerings to shame.

Nothing in the lineup comes close to these new G5's. It's gonna be great!
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post #791 of 1072
6/20/03 at 5:05pm
Moki,

Moki,


Moki.

Just can't stand it anymore.
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post #792 of 1072
6/20/03 at 5:10pm
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Originally posted by jccbin
Moki,

Moki,


Moki.

Just can't stand it anymore.

could be worse. could be kormac, kormac, kormac.

or

nostrodamus, nostrodamus, nostrodamus.

you know?
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post #793 of 1072
6/20/03 at 5:19pm
screw minimizing, i just want to see him resize a browser window
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post #794 of 1072
6/20/03 at 5:23pm
I really need to stop reading this thread now. Even though I'm probably not going to buy one (since I can't afford one and I relatively recently purchased a G4 iMac), I'm gonna be heading down to the Apple Store Palo Alto come Monday morning just to watch the keynote and (hopefully) play with some of these monsters.

But now, every second is feeling like a year, because I really want to see Apple announce these babies! I'm actually more excited about Panther now... which I should be, since the PowerMac issue is moot for me due to money issues.

Arg!

*** simX goes to terminal, types, "sudo echo 127.0.0.1 appleinsider.com >> /etc/hosts", and presses return.

Ahhhhhhhhh.

*** simX goes crazy.

Maybe I should actually clean my room to get my mind off the G5s.
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post #795 of 1072
6/20/03 at 5:25pm
Could it be that someone actually ordered this 'mishap' to occur? It would surely increase hype like an atom bomb. I'll bet it was part a cleverly designed strategy, but only time will tell.
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post #796 of 1072
6/20/03 at 5:25pm
Don't have to do this anymore guys...

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post #797 of 1072
6/20/03 at 5:26pm
I know a lot you are tremendously happy about this turn of events, but something inside me is disappointed. I've been eagerly anticipating Steve's speech on Monday, knowing how happy he would be to break it to all of us that the Mac's "on top" again. With this mistake, a lot of his thunder's been lost. That's half the fun of his keynotes. He's gotta be one ticked mother-fscker at this point.

But, that aside, like it's been said, we don't know what the case is going to look like (which isn't a huge deal really), we don't know when it's shipping, and we really have no clue whatsover which new features Panther will bring to the Mac OS.

Monday's going to be exciting, yeah, but that frenetic feeling of "here it comes...are we actually going to see a 970?!" is pretty much gone.

Meh, it's just a computer, right?
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post #798 of 1072
6/20/03 at 5:27pm
boy_analog is onto something I've been thinking about when I first read the news.

Go back and read what he posted. *b* definitely sounds like a strong possibility.

As I asked earlier in another thread... Wasn't there supposed to be some sort of meeting held between Apple (Jobs) and the big Hollywood FX houses? Is there another machine that we might not be aware of, one that we won't know about until Monday?

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post #799 of 1072
6/20/03 at 5:28pm
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Originally posted by fred_lj
I know a lot you are tremendously happy about this turn of events, but something inside me is disappointed. I've been eagerly anticipating Steve's speech on Monday, knowing how happy he would be to break it to all of us that the Mac's "on top" again. With this mistake, a lot of his thunder's been lost. That's half the fun of his keynotes. He's gotta be on ticked mother-fscker at this point.

But, that aside, like it's been said, we don't know what the case is going to look like (which isn't a huge deal really), we don't know when it's shipping, and we really have no clue whatsover which new features Panther will bring to the Mac OS.

Monday's going to be exciting, yeah, but that frenetic feeling of "here it comes...are we actually going to see a 970?!" is pretty much gone.

Meh, it's just a computer, right?

I completely disagree. This has gotten my hopes really high about the Mac platform, but the completely rational side of me puts this niggling doubt in my mind as to the authenticity of those specs... so in all reality, I might be a bit more on the edge of my seat come Monday than I really would've been.

ARG!!!!!! (I really should type that last line into the Terminal -- can someone find a way to force me to do that?)
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post #800 of 1072
6/20/03 at 5:34pm
The part where it says bus speeds up to 1 GHz just seems to good to be true, pushing me into the hoax department. How are they going to pull that one of? Bumpity*bump*bump from 166 MHz to 1 GHz, while their server hardware will, apparently, remain stuck at 266 MHz. It seems a bit too good to be true. If Apple thaught me one thing, I'd have to be the Art of Disappointment.
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