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Originally posted by der Kopf
The part where it says bus speeds up to 1 GHz just seems to good to be true, pushing me into the hoax department. How are they going to pull that one of? Bumpity*bump*bump from 166 MHz to 1 GHz, while their server hardware will, apparently, remain stuck at 266 MHz. It seems a bit too good to be true. If Apple thaught me one thing, I'd have to be the Art of Disappointment.

It actually says "processor bus", not "system bus". The two, in reality, are actually different, as far as I know. Plus, the 970 is widely known to have it's processor bus run half as fast as the processor speed, which would make sense since it's 1 GHz for the 2 GHz dualie PMG5, but also "up to 1 GHz" since the lower-end models will probably have 800 and 900 MHz processor buses instead.
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post #803 of 1072
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Originally posted by AirSluf
Quite a bit of prevarication lately. Dotting your i's and crossing your t's in quite precise manners so as to make the loopholes larger later isn't very becomming.

El Presidente, you make and distribute good SW and I tip my hat on the very early GPUL call, but your last several days of good old-fashioned mugwummping are making me wonder about whether your sources aren't more IBM & design sided than Apple or production sided.

The only thing I know is we smacked-down my boss's pair in fooseball this afternoon. I think that information is much more solid than what you have, because if you really had current scoop you would at least be consistent.

So here's your opportunity to pick which side of the fence you are on and show the forum I am mistaken.

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Eh, SimX, you payin' for your plug in the sig?

I think Boy_Analog (page 13) has some interesting things to say as well. That option "b" is just enough to make me a bit anticipative again.

I'll be more excited when PowerBook G5's roll around this Christmas!!
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post #805 of 1072
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Eh, SimX, you payin' for your plug in the sig?

I think Boy_Analog (page 13) has some interesting things to say as well. That option "b" is just enough to make me a bit anticipative again.

I'll be more excited when PowerBook G5's roll around this Christmas!!

Which one? The plug for my own software, or the one for moki? I've had that quote from moki in my sigs for a long time on all my forum sigs, but I've only just recently registered here. I know it sounds convenient, doesn't it?

I actually used to have three quotes in my sig, but the admin over there at Mac OS X Hints told me to pare down my sig because it was too large (as evidenced by the one still over there on MacRumors). moki's quote was just too good to pass up.

Don't even get me started on PowerBook G5s, or I'll *REALLY* break down.
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post #808 of 1072
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Originally posted by fugimax
I'm, of course, VERY happy...but just imagine what this would have felt like in the RDF. People would have *died*

Precisely. Dead Mac users don't buy new Power Macs. Steve knew an all-at-once burst of RDF at this magnitude would have popped the heads of half the existing user base, and wisely decided to dole it out in a couple measured doses. My children are eternally grateful to Mr. Jobs (or would be, if they had any concept of "gigahertz," "system bus" or, indeed, "Macintosh").
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Originally posted by iconmaster
Precisely. Dead Mac users don't buy new Power Macs. Steve knew an all-at-once burst of RDF at this magnitude would have popped the heads of half the existing user base, and wisely decided to dole it out in a couple measured doses. My children are eternally grateful to Mr. Jobs (or would be, if they had any concept of "gigahertz," "system bus" or, indeed, "Macintosh").

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post #810 of 1072
Well... 1800/6PM has passed in the 1 Infinite Loop Time Zone...

No denial or rebutal from Apple...

The whole day the only real denouncement was from MacFreak.org... some Dutch site... and not much of one.

The positivity factor has just risen to, I'd say, 95%

Keep your hands and arms on the desk at all times!!

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LOL, iconmaster. you're right...dead mac users can't buy PowerMacs...though...the line will be long enough already with all the Wintel users begging for a new 970 machine.

-fugi
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Originally posted by iconmaster
My children are eternally grateful to Mr. Jobs (or would be, if they had any concept of "gigahertz," "system bus" or, indeed, "Macintosh").

They better all still be in the womb, otherwise you got some 'splainin to do.
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Does anyone think if the specs were real then Apple would have sent an e-mail to all the sites that have the specs up now to tell them to take them down?

Just a thought...
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Originally posted by Jared
Does anyone think if the specs were real then Apple would have sent an e-mail to all the sites that have the specs up now to tell them to take them down?

Umm...yes? The other question is, if the specs were not real, would Apple publicly disavow them? For both legal and marketing reasons I suspect that's also a "yes".
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Originally posted by moki
No. Any accuracy in the MacBidouille benchmarks is merely coincidence/luck. They were fabricated. As are the stories about G5 PowerBooks. As are the stories about G5 towers being in production in May.

I'm curious, moki...

Nothing about this strikes me as 'heavy'. Methinks that perhaps what you were expecting next week is still a mystery to us. Would that be correct?
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post #816 of 1072
i read the last 5 pages or so and didn't see it, has anybody posted this? :http://www.elroyonline.net/misc/apple/apple.html

funny, anyway i hope this isn't a hoax,hack, etc. i would hate to see people get their hopes up so high only to be dashed monday.

this just looks TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE...
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I am starting to think it is a hoax. I vote for nothing this good can come out of Monday. I will be pleased if I am wrong but I am just not getting my hopes up.
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But Apple's had almost an entire 24 hours to respond to it. TechTV even had a segment about it tonight. I think this one's either real, or it's not -- and it's fabricated on the positive side (i.e., to just give us a taste and make us want the whole enchilada).
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post #819 of 1072
but apple never responds...

does anybody know if ol lemon fresh bon bon ever got his ipod? i hope he got the one i want the 30 gig model
post #820 of 1072
I sure hope these specs are real. Just think, if the prices stay at what they are. A dual 2Ghz mac for only 3700. I'd buy one right away!!. The only bad thing I"m going to be in texas on monday and the whole week. Goign to miss everything. I'm really pissed....
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post #821 of 1072
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Originally posted by fred_lj
But Apple's had almost an entire 24 hours to respond to it. TechTV even had a segment about it tonight. I think this one's either real, or it's not -- and it's fabricated on the positive side (i.e., to just give us a taste and make us want the whole enchilada).

But if it were real wouldn't Apple have tried to prevent the coverage on TechTV?

If you have noticed, all the rumors on ThinkSecret that are real have been pulled due to Apple legal. This story on the other hand has not been pulled.
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Originally posted by Jared
But if it were real wouldn't Apple have tried to prevent the coverage on TechTV?

that logic is very flawed
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Originally posted by applenut
that logic is very flawed

As I just typed, If you have noticed, all the rumors on ThinkSecret that are real have been pulled due to Apple legal. This story on the other hand has not been pulled.

That is why I have that kind of logic.
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Originally posted by Jared
I am starting to think it is a hoax. I vote for nothing this good can come out of Monday. I will be pleased if I am wrong but I am just not getting my hopes up.

What don't you people understand about this?

Whether it was a mistake or a prank or a hack doesn't matter, the specs are correct. If they were not, Apple would have been forced to publicly disavow them by the end of business TODAY, not Monday in front of the whole Mac universe. Steve's gonna look like a big enough jerk as it is, he's not going to make it worse by being publicly booed for not delivering what everybody now expects.

The specs are real.
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post #825 of 1072
Ask yourself this...

If Apple didnt release this info who did? Apple must have done this but isnt it also true that if they claim it was a mistake it would be impossible to disprove? It inflates stock prices, financial outlooks and gives them free media attention and exposure...

If it were a hack, wouldnt Apple have to admit it and how would it get hacked?

I just think its odd that either way, Apple hasnt come out with a statement of recognition about the whole thing. Not even a "sorry about the false product description as of --"
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Originally posted by Jared
As I just typed, If you have noticed, all the rumors on ThinkSecret that are real have been pulled due to Apple legal. This story on the other hand has not been pulled.

That is why I have that kind of logic.

Apple can not threat legal action against information they published in the public domain.

They can demand that their own .gif from their website be removed however. Notice all the graphics have been removed but the text of the specs still remains.


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If its true, apple just saved thousands of dollars on marketing, and advertising, as most Web savy mac users know about it now. Almost certain a sellout as soon as they get released. Apple should cut their losses on the kegacyty G4 PowerMacs and start selling the G5's now. Watch their share price and revenue rise sharply.
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Originally posted by AirSluf
El Presidente, you make and distribute good SW and I tip my hat on the very early GPUL call, but your last several days of good old-fashioned mugwummping are making me wonder about whether your sources aren't more IBM & design sided than Apple or production sided.

Excuuuse me? Now I throw down the gauntlet.

Strange how anyone could read this forum, this site, with literally thousands of posts of nothing more than random chat, and you take offense to one of the more quality folks around here.

Look, to keep your sanity and to put this in perspective for you, just consider this all entertainment. And BTW, he spoke early and clearly about the audio capabilities of these Powermac G5. Now did IBM design that as well?
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Originally posted by AppleExec
I just think its odd that either way, Apple hasnt come out with a statement of recognition about the whole thing. Not even a "sorry about the false product description as of --"

I don't think it's odd at all. Regardless of whether or not this was a mistake, hack, or intentional, Apple still wants to surprise some people come Monday. And making a statement any way would force the issue (or make them lie outright, which I don't think Apple wants to do), especially since many of us (including me to an extent) are wavering still on whether these are real specs or not.

I also find it hard to believe that Apple would be forced to make a statement of specs that were listed on the online Apple Store for JUST A FEW MINUTES. If the specs were up there for a longer time, like an hour or a day, I could see how Apple would want to make a public statement about it. But a few minutes just doesn't convince me that Apple needs to make a statement -- especially since anybody with a few brain cells could see that something is obviously wrong with those specs when actually SELECTING the good, better, or best configuration (or whatever they call them for the PowerMacs).

Apple's corrected the problem, and they can instruct tech support to say that they don't have a product like that, if someone calls about it. As for other comments, they can just say to wait 'til Monday, or they can just say nothing. Why is that odd at all?
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post #830 of 1072
call me a doubting thomas...

i ain't gettin my hopes up this time...no sir, not about to...
ill belive it when i see it...

that way if it isn't true i wont be dissapointed...

show me the money!
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A healthy dose of skepticism is in order...

That said... many, perhaps 100s, of people saw this ON APPLES SITE.

If this were leaked by TS or AI, etc then the doubt meter would certainly be high.

But, really, when this came right of of Apples site...even with all the Akami info deleted...factually, any other explanation must be treated with the greater skepticism as the assertion that it was real is the most probable.

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Originally posted by simX
I don't think it's odd at all. Regardless of whether or not this was a mistake, hack, or intentional, Apple still wants to surprise some people come Monday. And making a statement any way would force the issue (or make them lie outright, which I don't think Apple wants to do), especially since many of us (including me to an extent) are wavering still on whether these are real specs or not.

I also find it hard to believe that Apple would be forced to make a statement of specs that were listed on the online Apple Store for JUST A FEW MINUTES. If the specs were up there for a longer time, like an hour or a day, I could see how Apple would want to make a public statement about it. But a few minutes just doesn't convince me that Apple needs to make a statement -- especially since anybody with a few brain cells could see that something is obviously wrong with those specs when actually SELECTING the good, better, or best configuration (or whatever they call them for the PowerMacs).

Apple's corrected the problem, and they can instruct tech support to say that they don't have a product like that, if someone calls about it. As for other comments, they can just say to wait 'til Monday, or they can just say nothing. Why is that odd at all?

Good point: remember the tiny notice on the bottom of every product stating that the specs can change at any time.

Every company has some statement warning that no specs are constant. Especially when they happen to change every 30 min or so.
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Originally posted by futuremac
call me a doubting thomas...

i ain't gettin my hopes up this time...no sir, not about to...
ill belive it when i see it...

that way if it isn't true i wont be dissapointed...

show me the money!


Yeah, it's all a hoax, can't be, no way, doesn't make sense...but anyway which video card should I get, the Nvidia or the ATI.
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Originally posted by simX
I also find it hard to believe that Apple would be forced to make a statement of specs that were listed on the online Apple Store for JUST A FEW MINUTES. If the specs were up there for a longer time, like an hour or a day, I could see how Apple would want to make a public statement about it. But a few minutes just doesn't convince me that Apple needs to make a statement...

The amount of time it was on the Apple site is completely irrelevant. Everybody knows about it now, and that's all that matters. It only takes a few seconds for a bomb to explode, it's the aftermath that counts.

I'm going to try this one more time, then I'm giving up.

1. Everybody and his dog is expecting not just G5s, but specific G5 models at 1.6, 1.8 and dual 2.0. Not to mention tons of other stuff like AGP 8x, USB 2, digital audio and a revamped system architecture.

2. If Steve can't deliver EXACTLY that list of specs at the keynote, he will get booed and whatever he does intro will be viewed as a disappointment, even if the "real" machines are still good.

3. Steve would never let this happen of course, so if the specs are fake, then he would have handled it through a preemptive press release that lets him save face on Monday. He's not going to go onstage and look like a jerk.

4. He did not, because he knows he can deliver EXACTLY what we are expecting, so the specs are real.
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post #835 of 1072
hi Bigc

i didn't say it was a hoax, im not getting my hopes up, and ill belive it when i see it. that way i wont be totally disappointed if it isn't real, and ill be pleasntly surprised if it is...

i want this to be real as much as anybody else here does
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2. If Steve can't deliver EXACTLY that list of specs at the keynote, he will get booed and whatever he does intro will be viewed as a disappointment, even if the "real" machines are still good.

Unless, of course, the 'leaked' specs are _too_low_.

(Ok, rampantly unlikely, but he wouldn't be booed after unveiling a dual 2.5, no way, no how.)
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Bwahahahahahahahaha


That's pretty good stuff!
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Originally posted by Carlos_E
I'm being DEAD SERIOUS. I have always lurked on these boards but never posted. The first thing I did today is email my friend who works at Apple and I asked if the listed specs are true. He said it's not. He said I better be wearing depends because I will crap my pants. I also asked about dual 17" Pbooks. He said we're good, but not that good.

Interesting. Your friend wouldn't happen to be the Apple dude in this article, would he?


Here's an excerpt from the excerpt in the article. Tim is this poor bastard who's trying to give a Powerpoint presentation about some ridiculous scooter design that he thinks will change the world. He's about 30 seconds into his presentation when:
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"I think it sucks!" said Jobs.

His vehemence made Tim pause. "Why?" he asked, a bit stiffly.

"It just does."

"In what sense?" said Tim, getting his feet back under him. "Give me a clue."

"Its shape is not innovative, it's not elegant, it doesn't feel anthropomorphic," said Jobs, ticking off three of his design mantras.

"You have this incredibly innovative machine but it looks very traditional." The last word he delivered like a stab.... "There are design firms out there that could come up with things we've never thought of," Jobs continued, "things that would make you shit in your pants."
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