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post #1 of 190
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Well cool

Did they kill the web guy on stage?
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post #2 of 190
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Originally posted by Anders
Well cool

Did they kill the web guy on stage?

wow is all i can say
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Panther: Oh HECK Yeah.
Xcode: Humina humina humina
iSight: I foresee many lawsuits for aiding and abetting voyeur webcams
G5: Performance is unreal... the pricing is consistent with that, for better or worse. NOT a consumer tower, NOT a prosumer tower, this is a PRO WORKSTATION. Period. When it keeps up with and kicks a dual Xeon top of the line? I think Apple just got handed the Unix workstation market. Not a market share expander... not supposed to be. Note lack of game demos.
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post #4 of 190
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Lets compare. Better than the g4 introduction? The Jobs return? The intro of the iMac?

Or better than the mac itself?
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post #5 of 190
Ladeeeddaaaee we are the fastest, we are the fastest, lladdeeellaadddeeedaaaa.
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post #6 of 190
SHAZAM!


Lightning strikes giving the PowerMac the power of the Hardware Gods.


The PowerMac is dead!! Long live the PowerMac

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post #7 of 190
Mixed reaction here. Good specs, leaves room for a 1.4 Ghz single consumer "tower", Cube, or whatever. With these prices for the PM's Apple needs a "headless consumer model more than ever, and I dont think that a G4 (at lease with current FSB restrictions) would fit the bill now that the 970 is out. If they arnt carefull they will price themselves out of the consumer market.

Software sounds good, cant wait to download Safari tonight.

Single ($1,299.00) and Dual ($1,599.00-$3,274.00 ) 1.25's still available. Does anyone think these will sell at the listed prices?
post #8 of 190
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Originally posted by Kickaha
Panther: Oh HECK Yeah.
Xcode: Humina humina humina
iSight: I foresee many lawsuits for aiding and abetting voyeur webcams
G5: Performance is unreal... the pricing is consistent with that, for better or worse. NOT a consumer tower, NOT a prosumer tower, this is a PRO WORKSTATION. Period. When it keeps up with and kicks a dual Xeon top of the line? I think Apple just got handed the Unix workstation market. Not a market share expander... not supposed to be. Note lack of game demos.

Well, they better keep the G4 Towers still up for sale, and cut their prices drastically then. If they are gonna just cut all Prosumer towers, well, nevermind then.

Hopefully they'll drop the current G4s for the $999 level, but after seeing the pricing today, that probably won't happen.

$2k for 1.6Ghz, 256mb, 80GB. Thats a farce.

$3k for a Dual 2Ghz is reasonable and actually a good price.

But sorry, they screwed the pooch on the low-end.

-M
post #9 of 190
Macrumors web feed mentioned that Steve posted spec results. Anyone got the numbers?
post #10 of 190
Well yet again the PowerMac line won't compete at the lower price point but it sure is a great value at the top of the line. Well, when the replacement iMac and eMac lines show up and what they look like we will know how competitive (if ever) Apple chooses to be. Will one of the consumer lines have a box versus all-in-ones?
post #11 of 190
let me be the first to say:

Wow on the specs.
Jebus, a but ugly case and what's up with only one drive bay?

What are we going to call these beasts with nine fans??
Huricane mac....i'll bet they suck the room vacuum
For the rest.., i'm content.
post #12 of 190
Macrumors is reporting that Apple will still offer a dual 1.25 Gzh G4 Power Mac for 1299. seems pretty reasonable.
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post #13 of 190
still waiting for a 15" PB update, hopefully it will be a g5, but if not i will buy a faster g4.
Hopefully at MWNY at the latest
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Macvees.
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post #15 of 190
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Originally posted by moazam
Well, they better keep the G4 Towers still up for sale, and cut their prices drastically then. If they are gonna just cut all Prosumer towers, well, nevermind then.

Hopefully they'll drop the current G4s for the $999 level, but after seeing the pricing today, that probably won't happen.

$2k for 1.6Ghz, 256mb, 80GB. Thats a farce.

$3k for a Dual 2Ghz is reasonable and actually a good price.

But sorry, they screwed the pooch on the low-end.

-M

From http://arstechnica.com/wankerdesk/3q02/wwdc-622.html
"[15:06] <iPalindrome> Special notifications
[15:06] <iPalindrome> Power Mac G4 announcement
[15:06] <iPalindrome> New single PM G4 today

[15:07] <iPalindrome> $1,299
[15:07] <iPalindrome> Limited stock of existing G4s"
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post #16 of 190
PHEW What a show.
I'm loving the new features in Panther. Might take a little getting used to. Mail got updated, yay.
The G5, wow that thing certainly looked hot especially when compared to that PC.
The G5 Case? Well I need a better look at it really. First impressions, not as astounding as Apple can be.

Am dissapointed about no new PowerBooks, as I will be buying one soon and was hoping for an updated one, perhaps that will come soon?

iSight looks interesting along with the new iChat AV.

Just need a few days to take in all this information now!!!!!
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post #17 of 190
Impression: I'm very disappointed that an updated 15" Powerbook was not even *mentioned*. I don't care if it's not available today -- the new G5s aren't even shipping until August -- but throw us a bone!
post #18 of 190
Fastest? GHz myth still applies, surely?
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post #19 of 190
jesus you people are whiny. they just introduced the fastest machines a consumer can buy for close to the price of the old top of the line. the case is likely to be better looking in person and very sleek. i swear, will we be satisfied at nothing? this is huge news.
post #20 of 190
Countdown before someone puts lights inside the new tower... 10... 9... 8...
post #21 of 190
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NOT a consumer tower, NOT a prosumer tower, this is a PRO WORKSTATION. Period. When it keeps up with and kicks a dual Xeon top of the line? I think Apple just got handed the Unix workstation market. Not a market share expander... not supposed to be. Note lack of game demos.

It certainly is a 'Pro' workstation. Yes it spanks the Xeon. But after four years, I was kinda hoping for that.



It is an outstanding machine. The 'dual 2 gigger'. Certainly. Not a market share expander. Hmmm. Well, they've certainly fixed the 'performance problem'. Any machine that outperforms the G4 by a factor of 6 is commendable. 16 gig bandwidth (8 to each processor?) is impressive.

Out performing a Xeon 2 to 1 is storming.

However, I think they DID screw the pooch on the low end.

This is 'new' tech'. Being Apple. Being supply and (pent-up) demand gives them a chance to fleece the punters.

This IS cutting edge stuff. Witness the Xeon stuttering to keep up.

Some may argue that is a price worth paying for.

Hmmm.

So. Who's going to pay £1500inc VAT for a G4 now?

I'm hoping they've got a prosumer tower or something to fill the obvious void left by the massive hoik in prices. I'm still spluttering on my saliva. I think I'll wait for Revision B. 3 gig in 12 months? Maybe that is worth waiting for...?

Hmmm...

A fantastic Keynote, Mr. Steve Jobs. Packed. Relevant. I have to question how Apple are going to make Steve Job's 10% stated growth target. Still it is 'only 6 months into the year...'

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post #22 of 190
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Originally posted by Cosmo
still waiting for a 15" PB update, hopefully it will be a g5, but if not i will buy a faster g4.
Hopefully at MWNY at the latest

If they put a 970 in a Powerbook, maybe they can get it down to 6 or 7 fans.
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post #23 of 190
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Fastest? GHz myth still applies, surely?

In what sense?
post #24 of 190
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Originally posted by jante99
Macrumors is reporting that Apple will still offer a dual 1.25 Gzh G4 Power Mac for 1299. seems pretty reasonable.

$1299 for a decently config'ed Dual G4 is a saving grace at least. Hope they can keep those up for a while. Might have to grab one in a week or so.

-M
post #25 of 190
I have only one thing to say : i will buy a dual 2 ghz G5. 3000 $ more with taxes included, it worth the prize for this beast. At the time the G3 333 was at the same prize ...
The G5 is the most giant step in the mac history since the PPC era. And at the contrary of the beginning of the PPC era, the advantage are avalaible immediatly.

In one year IBM will introduce a 3 ghz G5 : this beast will scream a 4 Ghz P4.

Long life Apple, long life IBM `
post #26 of 190
reaction:

30% hmm... world's fastest PC packed in an a/c unit.

20% great, but maybe a bit pricey on the low end.

50% IN YOUR FACE, WINTEL WEENIES!


on balance... good.
post #27 of 190
Can't wait for the web stream...
post #28 of 190
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jesus you people are whiny

People are entitled to their point of view.

Great machines. (AT LAST!)

Pricey! (...oh...)

This is Apple.

I'm kinda hopin' that something is going to fill the void in the gap left by the former low-end Tower market.

Like, a range of single CPU Cube 970 machines..? With Towers now being ouch pricey...Cube machines oughta look cheap!!!

Cos the iMac2 sure aint doing it...

I can't whinge about the G4, drat! But I'm calling Matsu to arms right now! MAAAAAAAAAAAAAATSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!

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post #29 of 190
Am I the only one that likes the new enclosure?
post #30 of 190
They've got the performance part of the price/performance ratio down. Very dissapointed at the low-end price. I was hoping to talk my employer into a new Mac, but they aren't going to spend that kind of money.

A lowend g4 tower, while nice, would still bite on the performance end of the price/performance ratio. I was hoping for a rebirth for Apple, but they're just caching out in the short term again.
post #31 of 190
No new displays to match?
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post #32 of 190
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The G5 is the most giant step in the mac history since the PPC era. And at the contrary of the beginning of the PPC era, the advantage are avalaible immediatly.

If not the single largest leap in desktop computing performance...ever.
post #33 of 190
These things rule and I'm completely stoked. There is one thing I do have to question though. Why Firewire 400 on the front? I know 400 is more prevalent right now, but 800 is the future. There are also cables that adapt the two, so it really shouldn't have been a problem.
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The G5 is the most giant step in the mac history since the PPC era. And at the contrary of the beginning of the PPC era, the advantage are avalaible immediatly.

In one year IBM will introduce a 3 ghz G5 : this beast will scream a 4 Ghz P4.

Long life Apple, long life IBM `.

Agreed. The dual 2 gigger is THE machine to go for if you stretch to it.

No 9700 as standard though? No gig of ram? \

No bundled 17 LCD prices?

Still, all in good time...

You're right, 'doc. This is the most giant step in Mac History since the PPC era began. Unquestionably. Available in one month-ish.

Impressive.

In one year, a 3 gig 970 will kick the snot out of Prescott at 4 or 5 gig. Easy.

Xeons cost way more than G5s... Heh.

I shouldn't be too churlish?

Truly. This is a great day.

Congratulations Apple.

That was THE Steve Jobs Keynote.

I kinda think he enjoyed it.

'Kick ass!'.

I'll say.

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post #35 of 190
Specs are available at Apples site

The 1.6 GHz is realy disappointing!
But 2 is my new favorite number
post #36 of 190
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Originally posted by moazam
$1299 for a decently config'ed Dual G4 is a saving grace at least. Hope they can keep those up for a while. Might have to grab one in a week or so.

-M

Uhh, NO.

That's a SINGLE G4 1.25Ghz for $1299. You gotta be out of your damn mind. 256mb RAM also. Pfft.

-M
post #37 of 190
All great news at the keynote.

Did you guys see how the new case opens??
new Apple gallery

I'm very pleased with how the boxes are priced, as well as their speed, smoking hot they are. And up to 3GHz in one year from now..... WOOOHOOOO
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Am I the only one that likes the new enclosure?

no, i do too, except one bay enclosure just seems hella-strange.
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Am I the only one that likes the new enclosure?

No
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