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post #241 of 553
6/29/03 at 2:19pm
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Originally posted by Chris Cuilla
- Does the new Finder automagically (via Rendevous or whatever) "find" public shared folders of other users on other machines and mount/connect to them?

yes, if you click on the network you get a list of all available volumes... but i have to log into all of mine... not sure about automatic guest access--and im not sure most people would want that to be automatic as some servers have different options for guests and registered users..
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post #242 of 553
6/29/03 at 2:43pm
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Originally posted by Paul
yes, if you click on the network you get a list of all available volumes... but i have to log into all of mine... not sure about automatic guest access--and im not sure most people would want that to be automatic as some servers have different options for guests and registered users..

That's probably good enough for me. Sure beats the annoying 3-4 step process I have to go through now to connect to my wife's iBook.
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post #243 of 553
6/29/03 at 2:50pm
So, Brad, are you back yet? More screen shots?

By the way, thanks for the previous shots. I hope that Jean-Luc Picard guy and his buddy Joe Blow don't get in any trouble with Apple.
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post #244 of 553
6/29/03 at 3:14pm
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Originally posted by Chris Cuilla
I only get the last file name in the path, not the complete file.

Ah...I see. Doesn't 10.2 support services in the Finder? Writing a service to do that shouldn't be difficult- it's just a few lines of code. I'm stuck with 10.1 at the moment, but I could try to write one real quick and send it to you. I have no way to test it, though, so I can't promise anything.

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I wonder if it has extra-powerful debug code!

No doubt.
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post #245 of 553
6/29/03 at 6:07pm
Thanks for that image of Start up and Shutdown, I didn't know about that since I do not have Panther and so far I can't see where to download the keynote.

One other thing no one has hit upon is the way the Connect To...dialogue works in Jaguar. I don't know if this is different in Panther, but my pet peeve is it doesn't stay open when I connect to a server. I like to browse networks and if they don't allow Guest then I have to go back and open up Connect To...again. Why does the Connect To...close?

I have a 128x128 Aqua Happy Mac icon and it kicks. Come on Apple bring it back! They should use the Color Classic! Or perhaps if they release a new Cube...I've also seen a Happy Mac that is small and looks like the old one except it's the FP iMac.

Keep those screenies coming!
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post #246 of 553
6/29/03 at 11:18pm
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Originally posted by iBrowse
This is pretty cool, you can show the status of classic in the menu bar.

Classic is not running...


Classic starting...


Classic running...


Classic Menu...

I be damned!!! Wow! Compare with these screen shots of Classic Spy:

Classic is not running...


Classic Menu...

and


I must have been working at Apple by now. WTF?! Where is thank you, costique, for your brilliant work? Aaarrrggghhh!</goingcrazy>

What can I say, ladies and gentlemen? I know a hundred or two of Classic Spy users sent feedback to Apple asking them why the hell would not Apple implement this feature. Apple has listened. That's great. We all must unite in sending constructive feedback. It does work.
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post #247 of 553
6/29/03 at 11:47pm
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Originally posted by costique
I must have been working at Apple by now. WTF?! Where is thank you, costique, for your brilliant work? Aaarrrggghhh!</goingcrazy>

Thank you, costique, for your brilliant work.

I know it's not the same, but you deserve to hear it nevertheless.
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post #248 of 553
6/30/03 at 12:04am
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Originally posted by johnsonwax
Thank you, costique, for your brilliant work.

I know it's not the same, but you deserve to hear it nevertheless.

Thank you, johnsonwax. In fact, I received many, very many e-mails with thanks and I'm happy that people like it. I'm also glad (honestly) that Apple finally got their crap together to drop some 30 to 40 lines of code to do such a simple thing. Perhaps, too late? When Panther hits stores, how many people will still be using Classic?
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post #249 of 553
6/30/03 at 12:56am
Hmm... I've always wondered why OS X is so bad at handling more than about 20 items at once. No matter what machine I'm on. I mean, think about it. I have an 800 MHz iBook. Not super fast, but certainly no slouch when you think that my computer is probably faster than about half of OS X users' computers. Is it really such a huge stress on the processor that it takes five to ten seconds to open a contextual menu showing the contents of my Applications folder? OS 9 performed this task in the blink of an eye. It has to be a problem in the underlying programming, not in the amount of processing power. You could give me an octuple 20 GHz G7 with four graphics cards working in tandem, each with 1 GB of RAM and clocked at 2 GHz, and it wouldn't be fast at this sort of thing. Why else would iPhoto take ten or twenty seconds to perform any task more complex than scrolling, such as changing the contents of an album or the library? I have a feeling that there's some sloppy programming going on at Apple and they've been able to pass it off as being the fault of their ailing hardware... but now that we have super fast G5s, things SHOULD speed up and any slowdowns will be clearly the fault of bad programming.
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post #250 of 553
6/30/03 at 2:11am
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Originally posted by Harald
Here's my request.

There is excellent evidence OTA is on the way.

Can someone delve into the sync framework or iSync.app to find traces of the name of the server at .mac that's going to be taking care of this?

It'll be in the /system/components/syncservices (maybe).

anyone had a chance to have a quick look at this yet?
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post #251 of 553
6/30/03 at 3:14am
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Originally posted by costique
Where is thank you, costique, for your brilliant work?

If I never sent an email for this, then I'm a doff. Thank you for this little program. It's stuff like this that make my computing life so much easier and more enjoyable.

But I shouldn't be the one really thanking you, it should be Apple.
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post #252 of 553
6/30/03 at 6:59am
This whole window resizing thing is going way off-topic from the main intent of this thread. I'm going to attempt a thread split and let you guys rant about this outside here.

Back on topic, though, I'm back and willing o take any more screenshot requests and answer any questions I can.
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post #253 of 553
6/30/03 at 7:03am
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Originally posted by costique
The most time-consuming action is to redraw those elements which change their size.

Like what? Take a look at itunes and explain me what needs to be redrawn except the brushed metal stuff they could easily turn off.
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post #254 of 553
6/30/03 at 7:03am
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Originally posted by Brad
This whole window resizing thing is going way off-topic from the main intent of this thread. I'm going to attempt a thread split and let you guys rant about this outside here.

Back on topic, though, I'm back and willing o take any more screenshot requests and answer any questions I can.

Brad, could you send me screenies of the iSync "sync remote" command and any other references to potential OTA?

You are teh man.
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post #255 of 553
6/30/03 at 7:10am
I'll get on that shortly. I don't know how much I'll be bale to get out of iSync, though, since I don't have *any* devices that use syncing.

As for the whole window resizing discussion, please carry on in this thread here:

window resizing (split from "panther requests")
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post #256 of 553
6/30/03 at 7:47am
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Originally posted by Luca Rescigno
Hmm... I've always wondered why OS X is so bad at handling more than about 20 items at once. No matter what machine I'm on.

If it doesn't matter which machine you're on, it's probably a software problem.

This is reportedly fixed in Panther.
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post #257 of 553
6/30/03 at 9:39am
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Originally posted by othello
anyone had a chance to have a quick look at this yet?

I did a "strings" on the SyncServer executable and came up with:

SyncDaemon/FusionOneWrapper.M

FusionOne are the people who do the over the air syncing I believe, http://www.fusionone.com/ . If I remember correctly they had a FAQ on their website at one point about iSync, but it was removed probably by the request of Apple.

So it looks like Over the air syncing is coming. Should be cool. Now if only they'd offer LAN based syncing. ;-(

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post #258 of 553
6/30/03 at 10:08am
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Originally posted by johnpg
I did a "strings" on the SyncServer executable and came up with:

SyncDaemon/FusionOneWrapper.M

FusionOne are the people who do the over the air syncing I believe, http://www.fusionone.com/ . If I remember correctly they had a FAQ on their website at one point about iSync, but it was removed probably by the request of Apple.



*CONFIRMED!!!*

All you say is true about FusionOne. They had on their site info about how their tech had been chosen by Apple.

It's a funny thing; they really are taking their time over this for some reason. The raw functionality of SyncML is hacked into applications by two-bit tech companies all over Europe. They look like shit but they work. I wonder what the reason is ... marketing? It's just "in the roadmap for Panther" and no more ... this is probably off topic.

Anyway, find me that server name dagnabbit because although iSync will plug into the .Mac Remote Server or whatever they call it, you will have to configure your remote device too ... be nice to see if it works from the other side ...
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post #259 of 553
6/30/03 at 7:09pm
Brad, we need another fix brother... hook us up!

You know this thread is good when, on your way home from work you wonder: "hmmm, maybe Brad posted some more cool screens from Panther DP1". Cuz I gotta be honest, I don't think about anything on my way home from work anymore, other than "this traffic is going to cause my brain to hemorrhage at any minute."

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post #260 of 553
6/30/03 at 7:31pm
anything you looking for in-particular?
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post #261 of 553
6/30/03 at 7:34pm
Anybody see the 10.3 pictures from ThinkSecret ? I hate to say this but the labels look like a hack. Plus, the colors are sort of cheesy tutti-fruity looking.

How hard can it be to change the color of the folders via lables?

And how about some regular looking folders instead of the airbrushed ones? Heck I'd even settle for the old NeXT style folders.

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post #262 of 553
7/1/03 at 2:49am
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Originally posted by Moogs
Brad, we need another fix brother... hook us up!

You know this thread is good when, on your way home from work you wonder: "hmmm, maybe Brad posted some more cool screens from Panther DP1".


What screens do you want? Tell me how to do an inline image and I'll post whatever you ask for (so I don't have to upload them all to my site).

Here is a reproducible bug in Panther Finder:

1. Get to the Root level in the filesystem (what used to be called "Computer").

2. Drag the icon of the "Your Name's Computer" from the title bar of the window to the customizable lower left list of folders/apps/etc., aiming it at the top or bottom of the list (not letting it springload any items already in the list).

3. Finder will crash and restart itself.
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post #263 of 553
7/1/03 at 5:21am
Does Panther have a lock screen feature akin to Windows XP?
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post #264 of 553
7/1/03 at 5:24am
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Originally posted by Mpmcquinn
Does Panther have a lock screen feature akin to Windows XP?

If I'm thinking of the right thing, then Jaguar actually has it.... go to Utilities --> Keychain Access --> View menu --> Show status in menu bar. You'll get a padlock in the menu bar, which will allow you to lock your screen.
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post #265 of 553
7/1/03 at 5:51am
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Originally posted by Mpmcquinn
Does Panther have a lock screen feature akin to Windows XP?

Jaguar does.

Screensaver with pword and a hot corner ... just push the mouse top right (or wherever) and you're done.

This does exactly the same as the Keychain thingy.
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post #266 of 553
7/1/03 at 6:16am
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Originally posted by synp
How about VPN?

I saw on macbidouille some screen captures. One includes AirPort and a VPN icon (that wasn't clicked). It could also under networking. There was also a Security panel in Preferences. Could we have screenshots of these panes? Is there some other way to configure IPsec or L2TP in Panther?

Thanks.

Lack of VPN support is the main reason why my company will not even consider using powerbooks. I think it is a very important question.
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post #267 of 553
7/1/03 at 6:29am
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Originally posted by Beakee
Lack of VPN support is the main reason why my company will not even consider using powerbooks. I think it is a very important question.

What kind of VPN do you use?
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post #268 of 553
7/1/03 at 6:30am
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Originally posted by Beakee
Lack of VPN support is the main reason why my company will not even consider using powerbooks. I think it is a very important question.

Funny thing... my university reqires VPN to access the network and Internet via Wireless-LAN and Cisco's VPN client works just fine. There is also VPN Tacker which should work with all kinds of VPN servers.
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post #269 of 553
7/1/03 at 6:33am
Sorry for not scanning the whole thread, but are there any changes/enhancements in Inkwell under Panhter?
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post #270 of 553
7/1/03 at 6:39am
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Originally posted by RolandG
Funny thing... my university reqires VPN to access the network and Internet via Wireless-LAN and Cisco's VPN client works just fine. There is also VPN Tacker which should work with all kinds of VPN servers.

I checked out the link, and it looks like it should work with Win 2000 server. I am calling my IT guy this AM to see what he says. Thanks!!
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post #271 of 553
7/1/03 at 9:23am
I'm at work on a Dell of all things so if anyone could confirm that this works for me then that would be great!

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If I'm thinking of the right thing, then Jaguar actually has it.... go to Utilities --> Keychain Access --> View menu --> Show status in menu bar. You'll get a padlock in the menu bar, which will allow you to lock your screen.
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post #272 of 553
7/1/03 at 12:08pm
Yes, this indeed does work. (Keychain Access, veiw, show status in menubar) I did it and it works like a charm.
(edit- why would you want this? Why would you not just simply turn on your screen saver and put password protection on it, seems to do the same thing...if I am wrong, forgive my ignorance.Example of what I do everyday before lunch, put the cursor in the hot spot..locks all unwanted hands from my mac.)


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post #273 of 553
7/1/03 at 12:09pm
I can confirm the existence of such a menu (it also exists in Jaguar although it has less features). The lock pad menu has the following commands:

- lock screen
- lock All Keychains
- lock "login"
- Unlock "System"
- Open Keychain Access

I don't know why they put login and system between quotation marks
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post #274 of 553
7/1/03 at 12:44pm
Because those are specific names of Keychains. Jaguar's keychain .menu has no less items, btw.
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post #275 of 553
7/1/03 at 5:28pm
Since a couple of you guys were asking, ow about some more screens of the various apps in the Utilities folder? I can't recall if we saw all the modes of the new Disk Utility app (which includes Disk Copy now I believe), but that is an important one. Basically I'd be interested to see anything that has new features from the previous utility.

The Network Utility is another I don't think I've seen revamped screens of.
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post #276 of 553
7/1/03 at 5:55pm
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Originally posted by Moogs
Since a couple of you guys were asking, ow about some more screens of the various apps in the Utilities folder?

They're really all the same so far. I suspect some changes may come in later builds.

When i took that series of shots, I literally just went through every app looking for anything that might have changed.

A couple places I realize I did forget are the Network pane in System Preferences and the updated Mail.app. I'll get to them in a bit.

Any other requests tonight? I'm having to dual-boot for this number here because of some very weird networking problems in Panther and it not wanting to connect to my LAN.
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post #277 of 553
7/1/03 at 6:09pm
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Originally posted by Brad
Any other requests tonight?

How about Inkwell? Any changes? Any screenshots?
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post #278 of 553
7/1/03 at 6:09pm
Oh, and one little thing from page 3 that I never got around to addressing:
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Originally posted by foad
Hey there Brad...you are just a little wrong. YOu can still drag icons into the top part of the FINDER window as you can do now. The reason that it might seem like you can't is because of the FLEXIBLE SPACE UI element. If you drag a icon to the left a little (where the flexible space ends) you can leave it there. If you go to customize the finder window, you can remove that FLEXIBLE SPACE UI element.

This is not correct. I removed the flexible space and I *still* can't add regular files and folders to the toolbar. Care to point out anything I might be missing?
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post #279 of 553
7/1/03 at 6:10pm
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Originally posted by RolandG
How about Inkwell? Any changes? Any screenshots?

I don't have any input devices that use Inkwell; so, I can't check this.
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post #280 of 553
7/1/03 at 6:16pm
The question is: why would you add files or folders in the toolbar as opposed to the sidebar? The lack of ability to do this is probably a function of the (now proper) CFToolbar. I like how Panther clearly differentiates the locations from the tools in the Finder. I'm hoping the Dock will do something conceptually similar; gain more "tools" and differentiate its content moreso than the current one.

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