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post #41 of 115
7/9/03 at 1:26pm
Check the powerbook page at Apple's site at 6pm on the 15th.
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post #42 of 115
7/9/03 at 1:38pm
yeah, also meet me on the 9th green at 9... and wear something nice
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post #43 of 115
7/9/03 at 1:51pm
PowerPage is on board with the world's most lukewarm rumor confirmation ever:

"A PowerPage source has indicated that the feature presentation by Greg 'Joz' Joswiak, Vice President of Hardware Product Marketing at Apple, may include a surprise announcement of the new Aluminum PowerBook 15-inch. It is unconfirmed and frankly, a long shot, but stranger things have happened. Joz is actively involved in PowerBooks and has given most of the quotes about the new 'Books to the media, so it seems plausible."

[Posted also in the "New PBs Tomorrow" thread]
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post #44 of 115
7/9/03 at 2:51pm
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post #45 of 115
7/10/03 at 1:18pm
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Originally posted by Zapchud
...Mot is still not anywhere near ready to ship them...

Is this true? According to Motorola in a February '03 press release, they're out. The delay is Apple's (usual ) lag in putting them in a computer and shipping the durn thing.
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post #46 of 115
7/10/03 at 2:58pm
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Originally posted by Kabeyun
Is this true? According to Motorola in a February '03 press release, they're out. The delay is Apple's (usual ) lag in putting them in a computer and shipping the durn thing.

It's important to read the article:

Pricing and Availability
Alpha samples of the MPC7457 and MPC7447 PowerPC processors are available today to selected customers. General market sampling is planned for March, with production expected to commence in Q4 2003. Suggested retail pricing for the MPC7457 at 1 GHz is expected to be $189 (USD) in quantities of 10,000.

Alpha samples probably mean first silicon samples. General market sampling is pilot production, in other words, further revisions from the first silicon samples and vendors can design hardware around them. Production looks to be still 3 months away. Production meaning Moto will be able to ship 100k cpus per month to Apple.

And $189 for a 1 GHz 7457? Ouch. Hopefully Apple can get a sweetheart deal for less than $100, otherwise, Apple shouldn't even bother with the 7457.

The CreativePro thing will be a rehash of WWDC. Ok, I'll do some wishful thinking and say Joswiak will announce PPC 970 Powerbooks, 12", 15" and 17" ones, available in September.
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post #47 of 115
7/10/03 at 3:19pm
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Originally posted by THT
It's important to read the article...

Nice jab, and good point.
Shows what happens to a normally rational mind when it's fogged by frantic hope. Pounced right on "now available." Kind of like stating that an Mideast peace plan is "now available"; sure, it's out there, but is it doing anybody any good?
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post #48 of 115
7/10/03 at 7:08pm
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Originally posted by AirSluf
What happened to the leak? How about there never was any leak, just a bozo making up something plausible and name dropping enough to set the hook.

It wasn't just MacWhispers, El Reg carried a story from DigiTimes saying that Compal had confirmed they were building 15.4" PowerBooks, to be shipped second half of this year.

I'm guessing the delay is actually inventory control on Apple's part, and this is also why there was the sudden price drop a month ago.

Ir's not exactly a radical act on Apple's part either.
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post #49 of 115
7/10/03 at 7:45pm
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post #50 of 115
7/10/03 at 8:17pm
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post #51 of 115
7/10/03 at 8:18pm
CONfirMED***!!1:

MWNY will be Anticlimactic EXTREME.
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post #52 of 115
7/10/03 at 10:44pm
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Originally posted by THT
The CreativePro thing will be a rehash of WWDC. Ok, I'll do some wishful thinking and say Joswiak will announce PPC 970 Powerbooks, 12", 15" and 17" ones, available in September.

Haha. Yep, that's wishful. Joswiak was the one at WWDC who said we won't see a G5 in PowerBooks anytime soon. Imagine him looking like a fool at MWNY announcing just that? Nah.

I agree, New York is going to be a rehash of WWDC with, possibly, a new G4 15" aluminum PowerBook with specs similar to the existing 17".
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post #53 of 115
7/10/03 at 11:21pm
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Originally posted by AirSluf
Well the El Reg kind of blew it in my eyes when they were predicting the unveiling of the G5 at MW 2002, complete with bogus benchmark numbers then as well.

I may be a conspiracy theorist, but I don't believe El Reg really blew it. Remember...that was the MacWorld Apple had the "Beyond the rumor sites...way beyond!" tagline on their web page.

The original PowerMac G5 WAS to be released at MacWorld SF 2002. It was going to have a Moto chip in it, which just 2 weeks before the announcement, Apple found out that Moto's indeptness was going to delay the product for no less than 6 months. That's a fact documented by Apple insiders on some other sites.

So The Reg unfortunately just got caught looking like their pants were down, when really the info was accurate but Apple pulled the plug. I think some other sites, MacWhispers included, may have fallen victim to the same issue. They're not guilty of telling lies...just publishing info that looks phony when Apple backs out of legitimate plans.

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post #54 of 115
7/11/03 at 12:08am
Here is alittle more fuel fer the fireMore from the register I really am hoping for the update next week. I know everything is against it. With Jobs always taking the spotlight for the big releases and all....But an update for one of the mid line products to where the flagship is, is not that spectacular. Let's assume for the moment that there is a 15. 4 alBook in a factory somewhere. Would it not be logical to release it under some show with press coverage? It may be Macworld Paree but, it has been a while since the 15.2 has had any update/upgrade (Hmm how about upgrate? ) How long will they run the old model into the ground given the pressure to innovate and to remain somewhat competitive? If the sales were really flat they would have further markdowns to blow these very high margin items out the door.
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post #55 of 115
7/11/03 at 12:28am
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Originally posted by Ensoniq
The original PowerMac G5 WAS to be released at MacWorld SF 2002. It was going to have a Moto chip in it, which just 2 weeks before the announcement, Apple found out that Moto's indeptness was going to delay the product for no less than 6 months. That's a fact documented by Apple insiders on some other sites.

Yeah? Who, where?
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post #56 of 115
7/11/03 at 12:30am
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Originally posted by taliesin
Here is alittle more fuel fer the fireMore from the register

That article is unchanged from three weeks ago.
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post #57 of 115
7/11/03 at 9:34am
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Originally posted by Ensign Pulver
That article is unchanged from three weeks ago.

Sorry, I didn't mean to represent it as new information . Merely as a confirmation of what was out there.
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post #58 of 115
7/11/03 at 8:05pm
People still read teh Register?
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post #59 of 115
7/11/03 at 8:16pm
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Originally posted by taliesin
What happened to the Taiwan leak about the 15.4 Pbooks. That was months ago. Has Appple really plugged all the leaks? It seems like the boards are talking about the G5 in the powerbook, which is all speculation. The aluminum form factor should be heading towards us. But when

All good questions taliesin, but we don't know the answers. I'll be there in NYC since Apple cancelled Tokyo, where else is there to go? Oh, yes, SF, but I can't justify a trip to the States without going via NYC!

I am with Omek, though "There'd better be an update of the PB 15" I'd be happy with a back-lit keyboard and 15.4 screen." Otherwise, I've got to skip another generation.
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post #60 of 115
7/12/03 at 8:40am
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Originally posted by Ensign Pulver
Yeah? Who, where?

I think he was referring to the extensive article on the G5 posted up by Architosh (which I'm still trying to find on their site). AFAIK, it was the article that was supposed to have exposed the whole drama that appears to have swirled around what was purported to be Apple and Moto's G5 effort (i.e. prototype computers with cases welded shut, chips that ran so fast they exploded, etc.)

[edit: here it is: http://www.architosh.com/news/2002-1...7457-rm1.phtml]
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post #61 of 115
7/12/03 at 9:09am
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Originally posted by KidRed
Check the powerbook page at Apple's site at 6pm on the 15th.

Why wouldn't such a big announcement be displayed at the front page
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post #62 of 115
7/12/03 at 12:50pm
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Originally posted by Ensign Pulver
That article is unchanged from three weeks ago.

Actually, they had a small update at the bottom, not sure of the date.

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Update #1 Something seems to be happening on the PowerBook front, at any rate. One reseller was told this week that his order for a number of 15in PowerBooks was cancelled by Apple, notification of which was appended with a comment that he should wait until Monday...
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post #63 of 115
7/12/03 at 3:06pm
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Originally posted by Cubit

I am with Omek, though "There'd better be an update of the PB 15" I'd be happy with a back-lit keyboard and 15.4 screen." Otherwise, I've got to skip another generation.

I really want the update too. But as the the magic 8-ball says,"Ask again later" It seems unlikely give the utter lack of credible information out there. Either Apple has got most of the world under NDAs or there is no secret to protect (as of yet.) I just don't see enough movement in the product line to justify an update. Please let me be wrong.
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post #64 of 115
7/13/03 at 9:22pm
After our leak from a month ago, It doesn't surprise me that we haven't heard anything. I need a PB. Soon. I am starting school in Computer sciences in 6 weeks and aside from the fact that I am at least 6 months overdue for a new comp I have other things to consider. We know apple is big in the education market and that many people are out there to buy PB's in july-august. I think we will get an update tomorrow and they will ship within the next four weeks. Then again, I may just have to run Photoshop, Dreamweaver and Final cut on the current 15
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post #65 of 115
7/14/03 at 1:41am
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Originally posted by rampancy
[B]I think he was referring to the extensive article on the G5 posted up by Architosh (which I'm still trying to find on their site).

Whats interesting is later in the article they predict a roadmap for 970 adoption which *begins* with the 1.8 GHz G5(970) released at MWSF 2004!

Now, some may argue that it will be nearly 2004 before most have their G5s in hand, but still... it's interesting to see how Apple beat at least some expectations after the 'letdown' of MWSF and NY of 2002.
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post #66 of 115
7/14/03 at 2:06am
Since it seems Joswiak's presentation will not be webcast will someone be posting live updates?
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post #67 of 115
7/14/03 at 8:01am
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post #68 of 115
7/14/03 at 9:33am
what time is the keynote today?
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post #69 of 115
7/14/03 at 9:43am
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Originally posted by psychobass213
what time is the keynote today?

In MWNY site says:

Greg Joswiak, Vice President of Hardware Product Marketing
Wednesday, July 16
9:30 am 10:30 am

So, I guess no presentation today.

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post #70 of 115
7/14/03 at 9:44am
crap!
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post #71 of 115
7/14/03 at 9:57am
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crap!

My thoughts exactly...
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post #72 of 115
7/14/03 at 11:36am
awww noo... not today... not to Gil.... awww geez...
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post #73 of 115
7/14/03 at 11:39am
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Originally posted by Sopphode
Why wouldn't such a big announcement be displayed at the front page

Maybe it won't be such a big announcement.
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post #74 of 115
7/14/03 at 12:28pm
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Originally posted by neutrino23
Since it seems Joswiak's presentation will not be webcast will someone be posting live updates?

with any luck I will be there.... and if I can find a suitable power outlet I will be posting live updates to the AI chatroom like I did for the WWDC keynote at the SoHo store...
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post #75 of 115
7/14/03 at 12:46pm
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Further G5 demo's

Mail 2.0

DVD Studio pro 2.0

Powerbook and iMac speed bumps - move to MPC7457.

iBooks nothing.

Apple announces that it has accumulated a 6 month backlog in dual 2GHz G5 orders, and as result it doubles the price of the dual G5 effective immediately. The price will be reduced back to normal when the backlog dissipates.

Apple announces that due to an extremely low number of orders for 1.6GHz G5 machines the product will be discontinued before it even starts shipping. This will allow shifting additional manufacturing capacity to the dual 2GHz G5 machine.


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post #76 of 115
7/14/03 at 1:07pm
What would happen to all the rumour sites though if/when a 15" Albook is introduced? I mean what would they talk about. This 15" stuff has been a real boon the the rumour comunity!
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post #77 of 115
7/14/03 at 2:01pm
Officially the MWNY has already started.
Does anyone been there that could possible tell us if any kind of hardware/software will updated or released?

Any leaks?

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post #78 of 115
7/14/03 at 2:03pm
But the expo doesn't start until weds. I guess we just have to wait a little bit longer.
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7/14/03 at 2:15pm
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What would happen to all the rumour sites though if/when a 15" Albook is introduced? I mean what would they talk about. This 15" stuff has been a real boon the the rumour comunity!

biggest boon of the last 2 years was and is the G5, but there is still a lot left:
- ibookIII... and will it have a 14.1" screen or a 13.3", 14.1", 15.4"widescreen...
- cinema displays
- xserve G5
- imacII update (G4/7457)
- imacII G5
- pb12" and pb17"revB (G4/7457)
- pb12" pb15" and pb17" G5
- ipod IV
- powermac G5 revB
- powermac minitower/cube II
- tablet mac
- the 20th anniversary mac.
probally i forgot something, but this is what i can think of right now

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and offcourse i forgot to add my prediction or expectations for mwny 2003:
and that's zero... no new hardware

(if i'm wrong, so be it, i don't know jack and i won't promise to do something to myself like JYD did)
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post #80 of 115
7/14/03 at 5:38pm
I predict the long-awaited release of iPrOn 1.0, a major functional component of iSight / iChat!
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