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post #121 of 132
[quote]Originally posted by Outsider:
<strong>I've been checking out Ingram Micro inventory and while they were mostly at nil for PowerMac inventory last week, they quickly restocked and are in the low hundreds on each of the models. I have heard rumors that Apple may have 970 chips in their hands by March even if a limited amount. We also are to expect the 7457 from Motorola very soon. We can all agree that PowerMacs need an update and late this month or early next is when we should expect them. I predict a staggered announcement like when the DA PowerMacs were first released: 2 models based on the G4 (7457) shipping immediately and two models based on the 970 shipping in a month for the lower speed and maybe 6 weeks for the higher end. If the 970 is not to be in the cards for this quarter then a full lineup of 7457s should hold us over with 200MHz buses, but I really hope for 970 announcements. It would convince some of my higher ups to wait on the purchase of some new Macs we need to make in the spring. My predicted specs are as follows:

All G4 line up:

1GHz SP, 1.25GHz SP, 1.3GHz DP, 1.5GHz DP
2MB L3 cache across the board
167MHz bus for the SP machines
200MHz bus for the DP machines
DDR RAM; 256MB, 512MB, 512MB, 1GB respectively
ATA133; 60GB; 80GB; 120GB, 160GB respectively
Firewire 400 & 800
USB 1.1
AGP 8X, PCI-X (!)
Bluetooth and the new Airport slots

Staggered G4/970 line up:

1.2GHz SP G4, 1.4GHz SP G4; 2MB L3 cache; 200MHz bus
1.6GHz DP 970, 1.8GHz DP 970; 800MHz and 900MHz bus
DDR RAM; 256MB, 512MB, 512MB, 1GB respectively
ATA133; 60GB; 80GB; 120GB, 160GB respectively
Firewire 400 & 800
USB 1.1
AGP 8X, PCI-X (!)
Bluetooth and the new Airport slots</strong><hr></blockquote>
post #122 of 132
All G4 line up:

1GHz SP, 1.25GHz SP, 1.3GHz DP, 1.5GHz DP
2MB L3 cache across the board
167MHz bus for the SP machines
200MHz bus for the DP machines
DDR RAM; 256MB, 512MB, 512MB, 1GB respectively
ATA133; 60GB; 80GB; 120GB, 160GB respectively
Firewire 400 & 800
USB 1.1
AGP 8X, PCI-X (!)
Bluetooth and the new Airport slots

Staggered G4/970 line up:

1.2GHz SP G4, 1.4GHz SP G4; 2MB L3 cache; 200MHz bus
1.6GHz DP 970, 1.8GHz DP 970; 800MHz and 900MHz bus
DDR RAM; 256MB, 512MB, 512MB, 1GB respectively
ATA133; 60GB; 80GB; 120GB, 160GB respectively
Firewire 400 & 800
USB 1.1
AGP 8X, PCI-X (!)
Bluetooth and the new Airport slots[/QB][/QUOTE]
post #123 of 132
A simple thing that is due is a 4X dvd writer, aka Pioneer A105 . It exists in the PCworld already, even current Formac firewire drives have it...
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post #124 of 132
i bet we won't get a dual 970 to begin with...
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I think any G4 on the tower will be dual because of the speed defecit. Also, I belive once Apple goes 970, the G4 is done with and left to th consumer models. I don't think Apple will have G4 & 970 towers except for the quark-users-who-for-whatever-reason-cant-update-to-X-yet model.
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post #126 of 132
IMHO a G3 PowerMac with OS9 would make Quark users happy, Apple should offer a QuarkedMac only for them.
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post #127 of 132
[quote]Originally posted by xype:
<strong>IMHO a G3 PowerMac with OS9 would make Quark users happy, Apple should offer a QuarkedMac only for them.</strong><hr></blockquote>


You're kidding right? If Quark doesn't have their act together by the time the 970 ships, Steve will burn the Quark 5 user manual on stage while wearing an Adobe InDesign G-string.

There will be no OS 9 Power Macs or staggered G4/970 product lineup. Steve will use the intro of the 970 (branded as a G5) to move the G4 to consumer machines only. Hell, I wouldn't be suprised if these G5 Power Macs were used as an excuse to drop Classic support all together. These boxes will be for pros running Shake, Maya and Avid. FCP and the OS X only Photoshop 8 will actually be low end apps for these machines. OS 9 in any form will not be welcome.

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post #128 of 132
The prediction about lowend SP G4 (or even 970) is problematic. The curent lowend tower is a dual 867 MHz that give OS X and several applications a performance on par with SP G4 at about 1.5 GHz so replacing it with anything slower than 1.5 is a downgrade and Apple have had one experience to many with down clocking <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[oyvey]" />

My guess for the towers (95%)
Speedbumped dual G4 towers. Possibly with tweaks like front mounted USB FW2 ports. Hard disk sleds as in the Xserver or other stuff that needs major revision of case and motherboard very unlikely.


The p&lt; 0.05 scenario
Introduction of 970 in a radically different box crammed full with new stuff from blue thooth to (gasp) a two button mouse!
New iMacs with the SP 970 replacing the current G4 lineup

And the even less likely:Staggered releases different versions...
A. Staggered CPUs new cases with the old G4
-Have to add G4 support to new motherboards for temporary use
B. Staggered motherboard releases as G4 and yikes.
-Have to add 970 support to the old moherboard for a one of model
C. Having the new and old tower sold side by side. I would rate this as the least unlikely scenario. A dual 1.2 GHz G4 as the new low end right away. In new cases a dual 970 1.4 aviablesome few weeks away and the new top end at 1.6 after several weeks. This would be quite similar to the introduction of the latest models.

Apple seem to be very good at playing with the cards very close to their chest, and the labs seem more leakproof than Depend diapers so here we are playing the guessing game, adn dreaming <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
post #129 of 132
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Vindicated! Late January... check. Low end with single processor... check. So I got some of the details a little wrong
post #130 of 132
Apple has a 1.4 on the front page now. I can't be the first to see it?
post #131 of 132
[quote]Originally posted by Scott:
<strong>Apple has a 1.4 on the front page now. I can't be the first to see it?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Bumpity-Bumping their wet little nose above water for another breath 'till IBM throws 'em a 970.
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post #132 of 132
[quote]Originally posted by Scott:
<strong>Apple has a 1.4 on the front page now. I can't be the first to see it?</strong><hr></blockquote>

someone is going to kick me in the face, i expected no speedbump till april 2003...
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