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post #81 of 163
Ahah, prob cuz all us mac users were all going there, bothering to actually read the fine print, and telling everyone about it. The best part is it the page loads up fine, then it goes to the incompatibility screen.
post #82 of 163
You gotta use OmniWeb and set the browser recognition thingy to Windows IE. Then you can still access the crapfest. The search engine works now, so it's easier to find out how limited their selection actually is.
I wonder if Scott Blum is going to issue a press release soon expounding the phenomenal success of his site.

Really, I'd actually like to know. I predict a grand total of 15,000-20,000 so far.
post #83 of 163
This is yoinked from a Spymac thread. It features Scott Blum on techTV or some such discussing RentMusic.com.

(Right-click the linky or severe gibberish may occur)

http://gandm.hypermart.net/Spymac/Part1.m4a

This guy is such a freaking mook.

The entire interview is available on the second page of the thread for your downloading pleasure. Although, the rest of the interview isn't nearly as idiotic.
post #84 of 163
How about a link to the thread?

This is hilarious stuff though.
post #85 of 163
haha...this guy is pissed his business is failing...so apple needs to get their s*i* together before their crap is just excepted as the best possible...ala MS
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post #86 of 163
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How about a link to the thread?

This is hilarious stuff though.


Whoops! I thought I had put in a link. My Bad.

http://www.spymac.com/forums/showthr...threadid=33918
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Hmm, nice idea, but I'm not so sure about the Nazi stuff...

It'd be kind of cool if, when people loaded into that, it debunked everything BuyMusic was trying to pull over peoples' eyes authoratitively - otherwise, people will just say "Oh, whiny Mac users."
post #89 of 163
I dare anyone to find anything beside Tommy Lees "Hold Me" that costs 0.79.
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Hmm, nice idea, but I'm not so sure about the Nazi stuff...

It'd be kind of cool if, when people loaded into that, it debunked everything BuyMusic was trying to pull over peoples' eyes authoratitively - otherwise, people will just say "Oh, whiny Mac users."

Yeah, some of it isn't right, but for the most part it was amusing.... not that I'm saying amusing == effective.
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http://gandm.hypermart.net/Spymac/Part1.m4a

Sorry guys....probably me just being thick ....but I can't get this file to play! Tried Quicktime and iTunes.

What is a .m4a file ??
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http://gandm.hypermart.net/Spymac/Part1.m4a

Sorry guys....probably me just being thick ....but I can't get this file to play! Tried Quicktime and iTunes.

What is a .m4a file ??

.m4a is AAC and it plays fine here.
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Originally posted by piot
http://gandm.hypermart.net/Spymac/Part1.m4a

Sorry guys....probably me just being thick ....but I can't get this file to play! Tried Quicktime and iTunes.

What is a .m4a file ??

Make sure you have iTunes 4 and Quicktime 6.3 installed.
post #94 of 163
Toast Titanium is no longer available on BuyMusic.com.
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post #96 of 163
originally posted by applenut

Nothing to see here, move along.
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post #97 of 163
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Make sure you have iTunes 4 and Quicktime 6.3 installed.

Thanks.
post #98 of 163
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the nimrods at buymusic forgot one thing... if they're not careful, they'll send buyers TO apple, not away from them.

Already happened with me. I'm a channel surfer so I only saw the middle of the "Rapper's Delight" ad and just assumed because of the white background and person singing with headphones on, it was an Apple commercial. I wonder how many other people will mistake the ad. I guessing a whooole bunch.
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Already happened with me.

can go the other way too. buymusic ad comes on: "oh yea this is the cool company that does the cool ads with people singing on white backrounds, i heard it was a great music service, what's there name again? ah look it says buymusic.com, lets go there"
post #100 of 163
From MacMinute:


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Napster 2.0' to launch by Christmas
July 28 - 00:18 EDT__ Roxio CEO Chris Gorog will announce details of his company's launch strategy for the new Napster in his keynote address at the Jupiter Plug-In Conference Monday. "Napster 2.0," which will be a legal, paid online music service, will be available to consumers by Christmas, according to a press release issued by Roxio. Users of the service will have access to up to 500,000 tracks "any way they choose -- by paying for individual downloads, by monthly subscription, via Internet radio, or in any combination.
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post #101 of 163
CONSPIRACY ALERT.

BuyMusic is something Apple set up as a showcase of how impossible it is to make something as good as iTMS. Soon BuyMusic.com will guide you to WiTMS.
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post #102 of 163
What are those fools at Roxio thinking? Napster 2.0 will apparently be a stand-alone app like iTunes and Napsters previous incarnation and will employ Windows Media Player including all the charming DRM that comes along with it AND it'll be Windows only. Oh! The humanity!

http://www.atnewyork.com/news/article.php/2240801

Do all of iTunes rivals have to use WMA files because other than AAC there is no viable audio format that can incorporate DRM?
post #103 of 163
Releasing an online music store as a stand-alone app under the name Napster is... genius.

Didn't Napster actually try to do that at one point?
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post #104 of 163
I hope when the windows iTMS comes out they run an add highlighting the fact that when you purchase music from them, you actually OWN it.
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post #105 of 163
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Releasing an online music store as a stand-alone app under the name Napster is... genius.

Didn't Napster actually try to do that at one point?

Yeah, I think that during Napster's legal woes they were trying to transform it into a legit business but the whole thing went down in flames before it could happen.

I should also clarify something in my previous post. Stand-alone app is good, Windows DRM/WMA is bad.

Although the article did hint that Roxio might be getting a slightly less restrictive l licence than buymusic managed. If they can get reasonable usage rights and a price point close to iTunes then they'll give Apple some real competition. If it's anything like buymusic then down in flames they shall go.
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What are those fools at Roxio thinking? Napster 2.0 will apparently be a stand-alone app like iTunes and Napsters previous incarnation and will employ Windows Media Player including all the charming DRM that comes along with it AND it'll be Windows only. Oh! The humanity!

http://www.atnewyork.com/news/article.php/2240801

Do all of iTunes rivals have to use WMA files because other than AAC there is no viable audio format that can incorporate DRM?

expect Apple to try to buy Roxio.

Serious. Napster will be a very tough competitor to compete with no matter what small advantages Apple may offer.

Apple could also benefit from owning their other products and....gasp.... getting rid of Easy CD Creator
post #107 of 163
hmmmm

"July 23, 2003 - Roxio, Inc. (Nasdaq:ROXI), The Digital Media Company®, announced today the addition of Larry Kenswil to its board of directors. Mr. Kenswil is currently President of eLabs, a division of Vivendi Universal's Universal Music Group ("UMG"). eLabs is UMG's new media and technologies division, and is responsible for overseeing the company's efforts in new formats and e-commerce as well as developing strategies for protecting copyrights in the digital domain.

Mr. Kenswil has led eLabs since its inception in January 1999. Previously, he was UMG's Executive Vice President, Business and Legal Affairs. Mr. Kenswil sits on the Board of Directors of the Recording Industry Association of America (the "RIAA") and, previously, the Board of the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry ("IFPI"). He is active in government affairs on behalf of the music industry, having testified before both congressional and administration committees."
post #108 of 163
And BuyMusic hits its first snag:

From MacMinute:
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USA Today reports that early BuyMusic.com customers have found they can't transfer purchased tracks to their portable digital music players. "The Mac-only iTunes has won raves for ease of use, both in burning CDs and transferring songs to Apple's iPod players. But BuyMusic's tracks have started out as unplayable, even on portables lent to the press in a promotional blitz," notes the publication. "We're working on this," said Buy.com CEO Scott Blum, who says the company will have the glitch fixed today and that customers who have bought tracks will receive free re-downloads. USA Today also notes that BuyMusic will not release its first week's download figures, but "it's not millions," Blum said. As you may recall, the iTunes store sold over one million songs in its first week and 6.5 million since April. BuyMusic blocked access to the site for Macintosh users last Friday.

Link to USA Today Article:
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/20...buymusic_x.htm
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post #109 of 163
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And BuyMusic hits its first snag:

"And it isssss......***sound of falling tree*** DEAD."
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post #110 of 163
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The Net retailer made a splash with a 160-foot-high Times Square billboard featuring a near-naked Tommy Lee

Note to future online music retailers: If an artist's most noteworthy work is "soundtracks for third-rate Tony Hawk Pro Skater clones" then you might not want to base a whole multi-million dollar ad campaign around him.
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post #111 of 163
Don't be too sure. Let's see if any parallel comes to mind:

One company releases an innovative, future-thinking product. It is the first to the market, and is widely successful, even though it's not within the range of many consumers to buy.

Another company releases a knock-off, similar product, but buggier, and not so user-friendly. However, this company manages to put itself within the range of every joker and ex-pornstar out there. The product is wildly successful, the original company starts seeing the effect of its success, and, slowly but surely, becomes less and less competitive.

Nah, I can't think of any.
post #112 of 163
Difference being taht the imaginary company would this guy as the boss:


already have a widely used product AND have the patience to see red figures at the bottom line for a couple of years
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post #113 of 163
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And BuyMusic hits its first snag:

From MacMinute:


Link to USA Today Article:
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/20...buymusic_x.htm

I just read the article at it quotes Blum as saying the "songs will be recoded to allow transfers." Does this mean that all songs available on the site need to be re-rippped? And if so, how the hell does he plan on getting this done anytime soon?
post #114 of 163
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Originally posted by InactionMan
I just read the article at it quotes Blum as saying the "songs will be recoded to allow transfers." Does this mean that all songs available on the site need to be re-rippped? And if so, how the hell does he plan on getting this done anytime soon?

Maybe just certain files were encoded or wrapped with the wrong SDMI stuff, causing the transfer problems. I don't know if it's something that affets a large majority of the files offered.
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post #115 of 163
Do songs like these count towards the 300.000?

http://www.buymusic.com/searchresult...rtist&skdbg=12
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post #116 of 163
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Originally posted by MCQ
Maybe just certain files were encoded or wrapped with the wrong SDMI stuff, causing the transfer problems. I don't know if it's something that affets a large majority of the files offered.

"early customers have found they can't transfer the tunes they buy on BuyMusic.com to digital portables."

"adding that many customers have been calling seeking help."

Sounds like all the songs
post #117 of 163
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"early customers have found they can't transfer the tunes they buy on BuyMusic.com to digital portables."

"adding that many customers have been calling seeking help."

Sounds like all the songs

Noone at the company checked this simple feature before they went online?

Yeah. Sure sound like a stable and serious buisness to me.

Soon all their assets (the URL) will be up for sale.
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post #118 of 163
Ahahaha! It's amazing they'd survived this long!
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post #119 of 163
My favorite bit from the latest USAToday article:

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Apple has sold 6.5 million songs since April; BuyMusic won't release figures, but "it's not millions," Blum says.

I thought it was a bit suspicious that Blum didn't immediately start crowing about how many tracks they'd sold in the days after their launch. Didn't Mr. Blum say that he was expecting to sell a million tracks/day? I was a little worried at first, but I think that BuyMusic.com is a non-issue.

As for Napster 2.0, I don't know. There is certainly tons of name recognition, but the underlying product will have changed so much that
its original fans might not be terribly impressed. Plus, as recognized as the Napster trademark is, it's a name that has been dragged through the mud and has really been out of the spotlight for, what, a couple of years now? Seems like Roxio might have an uphill battle to let Joe/Jane Average know that Napster is now a legal alternative.

As for providing competition to iTMS, it may well do that. But, we really know very, very little about it. No pricing has been mentioned and no word on the license rights. Plus, it's not coming out until Christmas, so Apple still has a bit of time. And, if it really is using Windows Media as its codec of choice, then, IMHO, iTMS already has a leg up on N2.0.

No, the real worry, as always, is the beast from Redmond. Notice that MS has been strangely quiet up until last week when Bill finally mused that Microsoft might want to tie a music download service into Windows Media Player? They do that, and iTMS is toast on the Windows platform.

My 2 1/2¢. ;-)
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post #120 of 163
This still begs the question about what will Apple do when REAL competition begins this Winter?
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