Something Is Fishy.... (iPod) - Page 2  

So, they're sold out everywhere? That's cool. My 5gig is having some battery longevity issues, so I may have to trade it in at compusa when whatever is released on Saturday is available. Here's to hoping....

No doubt new iPods on the way with new iTunes 4 (MPEG-4 with AAC-Audio) which will be included with iLife and the other iApps.

[quote]Originally posted by Mandricard:
<strong><a href="http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/0301/23.ilife.php" target="_blank">Oh Rats.</a>

iLife delay, therefore iPod delay. TS says the delay has to do with hardware upgrades, though, which brings hope anew to my iPodless existence....

Hope springs eternal,

Mandricard
AppleOutsider</strong><hr></blockquote>

This was posted over at Macrumors by a person that has a 20GB on order:

Re: ...other hardware

quote:
[i]I want to know what the other hardware is!


Check this out. I ordered a 20 gig iPod on the 12th of Jan. Expected shipping was 1-2 days. Then it was changed to 5-7 days. The next day the 5 gig iPod was "unavailable".

NOW... I get this message,


Dear Valued Apple Customer,

We appreciate your recent Apple Store Order W4XXXXXX

Due to an unexpected supply delay, we are unable to ship the following
item(s) by the date that you were originally quoted:

M8738LL/A, IPOD FOR MAC 20GB-USA
will now ship on or before 02/03/2003

Please note that product availability can change rapidly, and it is
possible that your order may ship much sooner than we anticipate. You
may even receive a shipment confirmation between the time we send this
email and the time that you read it.

If you prefer, you may change or cancel your order anytime before it
is shipped, and receive a prompt refund, by calling us at
800-676-2775 ext-56500 Mon-Fri 7am-9pm, Sat-Sun 9am-6pm (Central).

If we do not hear from you, we will continue processing your order.
You will receive an email notification once your order has been
shipped.


Sounds like new Pods are coming. Should I cancel?? Or just wait and see what happens?[/b]

Something's brewing....

[off topic] Mandricard your sig reads "hope springs eternal" is that from a Robbie Williams song?

Do you think the delay in the release of iLife and its component applications from Jan. 25 to Jan. 31 could have anything to do with updated iPods? Most rumor outlets simply speculated about a hardware-related delay, which I interpreted as referring to iMacs, PowerMacs, and displays. But it could just as well be iPod hardware.

Escher

Well, we got new PowerMacs, a new 20" ASD and lower prices across the Pro line this morning. That leaves the iMac and iPod lines open for an update.

When I went out to my Apple Store to inspect the 12-inch PowerBook last week, I also played with the iPods. One was connected to a set of JBL Creature speakers. That would make a nice portable setup!

I also compared the mechanical wheel dial on the 5GB iPod to the electronic one on the 10 and 20GB models. I have to say that I prefer the mechanical dial. First, it provides tactile feedback, unlike the electronic dial. IMO, tactile feedback is one of the most important UI elements that is too often ignored in recent gadgets. More importantly from a practical perspective, sweaty palms don't throw off the mechanical dial. The electronic dial, OTOH, doesn't work properly with wet fingers (it skips and jumps), just like the trackpads on Apple's portables. If I were to get an iPod, I would want to use it while being physically active, and thus would prefer the mechanical dial.

Here's to hoping that the 5GB model will retain the mechanical dial but drop to $199.

Escher

[ 01-28-2003: Message edited by: Escher ]</p>

Apple will drop the 5Gi and 10Gi in due course!

Bigger better iPod(s) on the way with ambient optic display and controls - new case material too! YEP you peeked it hear first!

5Gi Dead
10Gi No change
20Gi No change
40Gi ambient FW 800 NEW
60Gi ambient FW 800 NEW

When? --- that would be telling ! ! !

[ 01-28-2003: Message edited by: Rendezvous ]</p>

Just checked the apple store. 5GB iPods have no link next to them for mac or windows. You also can only add the 10 or 20 to your new powermac order...the 5 is not listed there either.

[quote]Originally posted by BR:
<strong>Just checked the apple store. 5GB iPods have no link next to them for mac or windows. You also can only add the 10 or 20 to your new powermac order...the 5 is not listed there either.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Indeed, I was just about to post the same thing.
It's thicker than pea soup in here!

[ 01-28-2003: Message edited by: Flounder ]</p>

So who says we tar and feather SJ if we don't get a new iPod on Tuesday?

P.s. What is an "ambient optic display and control" anyway?

Just like the pb17 - new iPod screens and controls will react to ambient light...

Many will say what the hell - we have backlight LCD - but this is far cooler and adds value to the top range iPod without batteryware...

Why would a company patent this stuff just for a keyboard on a pb17), when it can be applied to so many other devices... Come on you people, Apple lead the way...

Last week, a site (can't remember which one) said that new iPods would be:

5 Gig @$199 (all plastic body, possible solid state scroll)
10 Gig @299 with aluminum back with solid state scroll
20 Gig @$399 as above
40 Gig @ $499 as above

Soon.

P.S. If software upgrade comes along with MPEG 4 that would add moer capacity for each version.

[quote]Originally posted by Mandricard:
<strong>40GB and 60 GB with FW 800 are overkill methinks --they will have to be way overpriced. </strong><hr></blockquote>

each to their own but i'd snap up a 60 gig with ambiant keys.

(i'd snap it up even faster if it supported Ogg Vorbis and didn't have the current iPods 'silent gap' between songs!)

iPod is a simple high-end piece that has for most of it's existance warranted the price, but it's time for a few updates IMHO. FM reciever. I'd say DAB too, only the USofA insists on mucking around with some other alternative, too bad. A line in and microphone that records directly to MP3/AAC/AIFF from either an analogue imput or a microphone. Rio will have this functionality soon and it's a great idea. I could see myself using it to record hours of voice notes, lectures, meetings, and interviews. I could see a musician making a couple of quick and dirty recordings just to get an idea or two down. I could see lots of people on the Bus tuning into the radio to get a little local talk, news, traffic, etc etc...

Come on Apple, it's time to perfect the iPod!.

At the very least they should open up the access and let someone make a device that adds these functions via the firewire port. Perhaps somethng that flips open like a clie? Have it snap over the whole back of the iPod and act as a protective case when not in use. It would prop a mic and antennea into a good position, though it would cover the scrol wheel when closed. Not a huge problem though.

so rendevous, will it play mp4s?

and does firewire 800 work with firewire 400 if you had some kind of adapter? would hate to have to get a new computer just for a new ipod.

obviously fw 800 is needed for future videopod or whatever it will be.

[quote]Originally posted by mania:
<strong>does firewire 800 work with firewire 400 if you had some kind of adapter?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Yes.

[quote]Originally posted by Rendezvous:
<strong>

Just like the pb17 - new iPod screens and controls will react to ambient light...
</strong><hr></blockquote>

What happens when its in your pocket?
<img src="confused.gif" border="0">

[quote]Originally posted by Willoughby:
<strong>

What happens when its in your pocket?
:confused: </strong><hr></blockquote>

i'd imagine the ambiant light sensors are 'off' when the lock is on. maybe just the lock itself is illuminated..

just a guess though

Ok guys here we go. CDW has a pre-order iPod on their website.

<a href="http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.asp?EDC=454089" target="_blank">iPod 10GB Link</a>

I just emailed my rep at CDW to inquire. He replied:

" I have a note on that part number that it might not be released, let me see what's going on with that. In the meantime, how does your mom like that Apple?"

I have to be honest though they ususally do not have the new stuff listed until two to three weeks after Apple releases something. Prime example are the new Powerbooks. Although he usually can find it before they list on the CDW site.

He came back with:

"Look at 411136 - that is the 10G MAC iPod"

and

"they are not sure yet of a date for the PB's. For the iPod, I am showing that it has a discontinued date already so it might not get released, I would stick with the number I gave you.

But if you look at the <a href="http://www.cdw.com/shop/search/results.asp?key=ipod" target="_blank">CDW iPod shipping times</a> they are all 1-2 weeks except 10GB (4-6 Days) for the 20GB MAC/Win models.

I keep bugging him to get me some info about when the new 15" Powerbooks are coming.

My 5GB iPod crashed a couple of weeks ago, and I sent it into Apple because it is still under warranty. They sent me a brand new one, identical to my old one. This must mean they still have some of the 5GBs still around. The turn around time was like one day from the time they recieved it until they sent a new one out. Do they keep a stockpile of older units?

CT

[quote]Originally posted by Cosmic Trigger:
<strong>My 5GB iPod crashed a couple of weeks ago, and I sent it into Apple because it is still under warranty. They sent me a brand new one, identical to my old one. This must mean they still have some of the 5GBs still around. The turn around time was like one day from the time they recieved it until they sent a new one out. Do they keep a stockpile of older units?

CT</strong><hr></blockquote>


I would assume they keep a small amount of older ones for a short amount of time to cover the warrantees and whatnot. However it has happend to my friend that his powerbook g3 fried under warrannty and he managed after asking nicely and groaning and then yelling after they failed to fix his powerbook twice to get a titanium 500mhz back when that was the new lowend.

I hope this means the 5gb iPod drops to 199. Alot of people would buy it then ... me included. Here's to hoping it cost 199

how funny would it be if that patent that we saw a while ago about color changing cases was for the ipod? what if the solid state wheel were to change color?

[quote]Originally posted by whoami:
<strong>how funny would it be if that patent that we saw a while ago about color changing cases was for the ipod? what if the solid state wheel were to change color? </strong><hr></blockquote>

I think that patent was kind of clear it was for a desktop machine.

Still hoping for 199 iPod

they definately stockpile....my original 10gig died (with scroll-wheel) and they sent me bad a brand new one, but not the new slimmed down solid-state one.

Just to speculate even further...Xtreme Mac, a maker of iPod accessories have cut back on the colours and finishes of it's current cases. When I inquired why, they said they were coming out with a new design.
Of course this probably means nothing and I'm not even sure if they would be privy to info of a new iPod.
But can you imagine how many frickin songs one can put on a 40gb drive in MPEG-4 format?

Other boards are reporting that a 40GB model with an aluminum back, and a $199 5GB model with a plastic back, are coming on Tuesday (2/4), along with a price drop and speed bump on iMacs.