[quote]Originally posted by THT:
<strong>[qb]Originally posted by Lemon Bon Bon:
Let's face it. Apple cpu problems can't go on with slight...incremental bumps while x86 ville are dawning on a new 64 bit ages and a Pentium 4 cruising to 4 gig. Something's got to give.</strong>
Well, incremental bumps is the way to go because it maximizes the dollars. It would be bad (for Apple) to waste CPU increments. AMD and Intel always incremented by 50 to 200 MHz at a time, but did it every quarter instead of 6 months like PowerPC. Apple needs to have a quarterly update cycle really if they want to catch up in MHz.
Pentium 4 increases to 4 GHz probably won't happen until Q2 04. The 3.2 GHz P4 is hitting its power limits at 130 nm, and there isn't much stretch left. They'll probably get to 3.2 GHz in the next 4 months or so, than 3.6 GHz when a 90 nm P4 ships at the end of the year, maybe Q1 04. The big thing will be the quad data rate 200 MHz processor bus representing a marketing number of 800 MHz bitrate for its bus. That's the PPC 970's bus bitrate!
The Opteron won't be in Apple's space. (If AMD has it there they will be in trouble financially.) The Itaniums aren't in Apple's space. The Athlon 64 is now due in September.
<strong>Can you really imagine 'power'Macs on dual 1.6 gig on a crummy 166 bus to the years end?</strong>
Well, yes I can. It's not funny obviously.
<strong>It's just been so long...Apple surely must have been working on something seizmic to get us back kicking x86 booty. (Say with Geordie accent!)</strong>
I'm hoping for by this time next year:
Dual PPC 970 1.8 GHz Power Macs
Dual PPC 7457 1.5 GHz Powerbooks (there's lots of pcb space if backside cache is eliminated)
PPC 7457 1.5 GHz iMacs (with backside cache)
PPC 7457 1.3 GHz iBooks (without backside cache)
and a Cube-like tower with a 1.3 GHz 7457 for $800.
Incramental upgrades done too often could potentially cost more money. Apple needs to get the most "bang for the buck" on their upgrades. I dont think that there is anything wrong with the 6 month (aproximate) cycle that they are on now, however, right now they could probably get away with 3/year till they catch up. The biggest problem that I see with their strategy is:
- Apple has not been agressive enough in addressing other shortcomings of their systems, such as bus speed in the consumer lines and USB2 adoption
- Apple has again "waffeled" on the MP Pr line, which sends mixed signals to its userbase and developer community
- Apple is not agressive enough in Processor speeds boosts in their consumer line. There is room to "grow" here if they keep the MP pro lines, and SP consumer lines. The iMac should have been at 1.25 Ghz with the last upgrade to make it more competative with the overall market.
Now I do realize that processor speeds and design (G4) are limiting Apples ability to push the envalope any further in this arena. However they could do more to adress limitations in other components like the AGP system, drive speed, etc. This is even more possable in their consumer line, which is competing with systems with as much as twice the speed in both the processor and memory.