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post #1 of 30
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Alright, basically all the product lines have received updates since the last thread.

So, it's time again

As in the past, no clockspeed or even 970 for the powermacs. we all want that.
post #2 of 30
USB2 for digicam support

wireless keyboard and TWO button, SCROLL wheel pro mouse

A silent, no-compromise ProMac (a la no-compromise Cube)
post #3 of 30
[quote]Originally posted by applenut:
<strong>Alright, basically all the product lines have received updates since the last thread.

So, it's time again

As in the past, no clockspeed or even 970 for the powermacs. we all want that.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Anything that boosts 2D-graphics by a factor of at least 5-10!

Explanation: After 2 months with OS X only I had to boot into OS 9. This reminded my of how fast scrolling can be! Switched back to OS 9 for browsing and office-work
post #4 of 30
iBook:
g4
FW800
Light up Keyboard

iMac:
FW 800
$999 Pricepoint

eMac:
Same specs as iMac
$799 pricepoint
4x superdrive
airport extreme and bluetooth

PowerMac:
Front access to USB
Faster system bus
real DDR

TiBook:
same features as 17" Al

iPod:
cheaper!
remote with a small LCD

thast all i can think of for now
post #5 of 30
Easy, one thing for the whole product line: MacOS 9 booting
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post #6 of 30
All PowerMacs should ship with coupons for free lap dances in lieu of the useless "up-to-date" coupons in the box now.
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post #7 of 30
[quote]Originally posted by Clive:
<strong>Easy, one thing for the whole product line: MacOS 9 booting </strong><hr></blockquote>

Oh yeah, how about bringing back a floppy drive too!!
I'd like to see pro workstation graphics cards as an option.
post #8 of 30
Off the top of my head...

iBook
  • Wide screen aspect ratio: 1152x768 (13" or so screen)
  • Max 1 GB memory (or more)
  • 133 mhz bus
post #9 of 30
12-inch PowerBook:

(1) DVI-out
(2) 1GB max RAM
(3) L3 cache
(4) 1Ghz clock speed
(5) More money in my wallet so that I can buy one immediately

That's what I want Apple to add to the 12-inch PowerBook, in that order.

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post #10 of 30
17-inch iMac G4:

(1) remove the LCD and chrome arm
(2) make it square
(3) sell it as the headless iMac for $1000



Escher
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Until we get a 3 lbs sub-PowerBook, the 12-inch PowerBook will do.
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post #11 of 30
I love this kind of stuff!

iBook
- G4 processor
- AirPort Extreme
- Special Edition widescreen model?

iMac
- 17" widescreen on all models
- AirPort Extreme and Bluetooth on all models
- 1 USB and 1 FireWire port located a bit more conveniently (since it IS a "digital hub" type of machine)

PowerMac
- I simply don't care about the towers.
- Overpriced and underspec-ed
- They can go to hell


PowerBook G4
- AirPort Extreme and Bluetooth on ALL models (12", 15" and 17")
- Illuminated keyboard on ALL models
- DVI and spanning on ALL models
(in other words, the PowerBooks - regardless of size - should all share the same core of nice, high-end "pro" features...in some ways, the 12" PowerBook - as cool as it is - seems "crippled" to me. I'd rather it have all the cool bells and whistles of the 17" model, even if it means it costs $2100 or so...the G4 iBook would come in and fill that $1000-1800 laptop gap)

iPod
- complete redesign with color video/photo display
- voice note recording
- larger hard drive capacity (to allow for above features)

Apple Displays
- Tilt capability
- Swivel capability
- Less plastic/"wasted space" around display area

Overall - applying to all of Apple's products - I'd like to see more customization and user-decided "tweaks" or upgrades when purchasing. In other words, every model can be custom configured with optical drive, video card, RAM and hard drive choices (within reason, of course). In other words, if you want a 17" widescreen iMac but don't care anything about the SuperDrive, you can simply order a 17" widescreen iMac with a Combo Drive.

That sort of thing: give the customer true choice and flexibility and don't tie features and cool things to certain products/tiers only (they used to be REALLY bad about this during the color era: to get a graphite iMac, had to buy the top-end model, even if your needs/budget only required a model that was $400 cheaper).

If people could truly custom build the system of their dreams (that truly met what they needed) like all these PC companies seem to offer in many cases, I think that would be a good thing.
post #12 of 30
G5
iCube
Workstation Graphics card

10% discount across the board. Then we're in business.

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post #13 of 30
1. Firewire800
2. USB2
3. Faster Harddrives
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post #14 of 30
Across the Board:
AirPort Extreme, FW 800, Bluetooth,
These three things signifiy the new set of computers coming out that are Mac OS X Boot-only

For the laptops:
Light sensing keyboards baby!

Maybe put that featuer into the desktop ones as well.....

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post #15 of 30
[quote]Originally posted by Escher:
<strong>

(5) More money in my wallet so that I can buy one immediately

</strong><hr></blockquote>

Escher just became the next greatest thing from Apple. And I like the known specs so far.

But back on topic:

Moblie:
  • Bluetooth and Airport included on all modells
  • DVI-out with included VGA-adapter
  • S-Video-out

Desktop:
  • (bto) Bluetooth keyboard and mouse
  • digital audio output
  • new line: small, silent office Mac or small, silent, easy to configure av-serving-enhanced Airport base station

eMac:
  • better tube

Displays:
  • keep competitive price points
  • include DVI-to-ADC adapter

iPod:
  • cut prices

[ 02-07-2003: Message edited by: RolandG ]</p>
post #16 of 30
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post #17 of 30
iBook: G4

PowerBook: Dual G4

Power Mac: RAID 0+1, better audio i/o, front usb/fw/audio ports

iMac: better audio, front usb/fw/audio ports, and the end all be all... removable AGP video card (same goes for eMac).

I think this would make the iMac darn near perfect. You can upgrade RAM and HDD already, and the 17" WSLCD is good for most people, but if you could upgrade the video card in it, damn... <img src="graemlins/cancer.gif" border="0" alt="[cancer]" /> <img src="graemlins/cancer.gif" border="0" alt="[cancer]" /> <img src="graemlins/cancer.gif" border="0" alt="[cancer]" />
post #18 of 30
More ram - 256mb ram is just not enough for OS X!!
More speed - Need I say more?
Lower prices - Nuff Said.
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post #19 of 30
[quote]Originally posted by opuscroakus:
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PowerBook: Dual G4
</strong><hr></blockquote>

I have to admit, that WOULD be awesome.
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post #20 of 30
512 MB DDR RAM minimum standard on all models--no more of this 256 or even !128! nonsense...

iMac...easily upgradeable components (i.e. video card), larger screen, colors, lower the price a tad...

eMac...drop it...CRTs suck IMHO.

iBook...Widescreen display...higher rez...colors

MiniBook...higher screen Rez...L3 cache...backlit keyboard...PC Card slot...DVI adapter...better battery tech

Powerbook 15"....make it the same as the 17" with just the smaller screen.

PowerBook 17"...duals?

PowerMac...If we can't say 970, then all I could say is lower the price a tad.

iPod...larger HDD, a few more apps, voice recoreder, AM/FM tuner...fix the battery drain thing where it drains after several days of non-use. I don't care about color right now.

I think the MiniBook is the only machine in need of a major overhaul. ALREADY! :eek:
post #21 of 30
So, here is my wishlist:

1) a new 64bit Risc CPU on all models (kill G3-G4)
2) USB2 (they are late already) (also increse the number of ports)
3) Serial ATA hard drives

These specs are for ALL Macs... laptops and desktops!
Ohhh, I forgot the fourth one... cheaper prices!
post #22 of 30
PowerMac
- HyperTransport
- Serial ATA
- PCI-X
- 24-bit/96KHz 6.1 DD/DTS Sound built-in

PowerBook
- dual processor
- longer operating time
- replace trackpad with something tactile
post #23 of 30
iMac:

1. Low-end $999 CD-RW version
2. Middle-end $1499 17" Combo version
3. All models use new style motherboard (133 MHz bus, DDR, optional bluetooth, Airport Extreme, FireWire 800)

eMac:

1. One $799 cheapo CD-ROM or CD-RW version
2. All use new style motherboard
3. Stand included standard (come on, that's just cheap to not include it).

iMac CRT:
1. Drop way down in price ($499-$599)
2. Or improve it a lot (Trinitron, iBook-like mobo with 750fx and Radeon, larger HD)
3. Or just kill it if neither of those.

PowerMac:
1. All duals
2. Better standard graphics cards (GeForce 4MX sucks, put Radeon 9000 on low end and Radeon 9700 or GeForce 4 Ti on high end)
3. More custom-config options for dual drives - offer a fast CD-RW, and a DVD-ROM. Many budget PCs offer a CD-RW and a DVD-ROM which is faster than a Combo, allows copying CDs directly, and costs less.

PowerBook:
1. PC Card slot, FW800, L3 cache, light-up keyboard, more motherboard RAM, more easily replaceable hard drive on 12" model (more of a PowerBook Mini and less of an iBook G4).
2. 15" model get everything the 17" has (of course).
3. Better graphics than the GeForce 4 Go, the Radeon 9000-m is better.

iBook:
1. DVD-ROM standard or as a $50 option on the low end (like before).
2. Larger HDs all around.
3. At least 256 MB standard RAM (128 mobo, 128 in user slot).
4. New style mobo (133 bus, FW800, Airport Extreme, DDR).
5. Higher resolution on the 14", like 1152x870. Or replace 14" model with 13", 1152x768 one.

All laptops:
1. Two button trackpad + scroll section along one edge.
2. Full size arrow keys that just go below the rest of the keyboard, like on PC laptops or the PowerBook 2400.

All desktops:
1. Two button + scroll mouse
2. More versatile keyboard with various buttons like "Mail" and "Browser." Or at least allow the function keys to be used for launching programs.

All models:
Double the RAM on all models. OS X is unusable with 128 MB and slow but okay on 256 MB. As long as 256 MB is the minimum, you won't get people switching to the Mac thinking that Macs are all really slow and crappy. My iBook was really slow and crappy with 128 MB... now it has 640 MB and it's nice and fast.

Stop trying to murder OS 9 and let it die naturally. For example, don't make the cinema displays require OS X... don't even make them require 10.2, because there are still people who don't feel like shelling out the extra $130 for what many regard as a minor update.

Quit using ADC. Leave ADC as a standard feature on all PowerMacs, but switch the displays to DVI. Eventually, ADC will die. ADC is really dumb, what I dislike about it most is that it limits Apple's market for their excellent monitors to just Mac users. Imagine how many 20" and 23" cinema displays they'd sell if they used DVI! Apple's obviously not afraid to sell products to non-Mac users, look at the iPod. Why not do it with their monitors too?
post #24 of 30
[quote] iBook:
g4
FW800
Light up Keyboard
iMac:
FW 800
$999 Pricepoint

eMac:
Same specs as iMac
$799 pricepoint
4x superdrive
airport extreme and bluetooth

PowerMac:
Front access to USB
Faster system bus
real DDR

TiBook:
same features as 17" Al

iPod:
cheaper!
remote with a small LCD

iBook
- G4 processor
- AirPort Extreme
- Special Edition widescreen model?

iMac
- 17" widescreen on all models
- AirPort Extreme and Bluetooth on all models
- 1 USB and 1 FireWire port located a bit more conveniently (since it IS a "digital hub" type of machine)

PowerMac
- I simply don't care about the towers.
- Overpriced and underspec-ed
- They can go to hell


PowerBook G4
- AirPort Extreme and Bluetooth on ALL models (12", 15" and 17")
- Illuminated keyboard on ALL models
- DVI and spanning on ALL models
(in other words, the PowerBooks - regardless of size - should all share the same core of nice, high-end "pro" features...in some ways, the 12" PowerBook - as cool as it is - seems "crippled" to me. I'd rather it have all the cool bells and whistles of the 17" model, even if it means it costs $2100 or so...the G4 iBook would come in and fill that $1000-1800 laptop gap)

iPod
- complete redesign with color video/photo display
- voice note recording
- larger hard drive capacity (to allow for above features)

Apple Displays
- Tilt capability
- Swivel capability
- Less plastic/"wasted space" around display area

Overall - applying to all of Apple's products - I'd like to see more customization and user-decided "tweaks" or upgrades when purchasing. In other words, every model can be custom configured with optical drive, video card, RAM and hard drive choices (within reason, of course). In other words, if you want a 17" widescreen iMac but don't care anything about the SuperDrive, you can simply order a 17" widescreen iMac with a Combo Drive.

That sort of thing: give the customer true choice and flexibility and don't tie features and cool things to certain products/tiers only (they used to be REALLY bad about this during the color era: to get a graphite iMac, had to buy the top-end model, even if your needs/budget only required a model that was $400 cheaper).

If people could truly custom build the system of their dreams (that truly met what they needed) like all these PC companies seem to offer in many cases, I think that would be a good thing.

<hr></blockquote>

Something like that.

Lemon Bon Bon

[ 02-08-2003: Message edited by: Lemon Bon Bon ]</p>
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post #25 of 30
PowerBook:
More firewire ports
Lighter
Cheaper

PowerMac:
faster
cheaper
sooner
post #26 of 30
Also:

flatsceen displays with WYSIWYG. Square pixels on ALL MODELS APPLE!
post #27 of 30
iMac:
  • cheaper; £1500 is a lot of cash for a consumer PC
  • Better low end model: it's sub 1GHz, has a GeForce 2 MX and SDR SDRAM. Nice to see it has 256MB RAM though
  • Better graphics card in the 17" models?

iBook:
  • Still only 128MB RAM: an upgrade to 256MB onboard would be nice.
  • 12" Combo model to less than £1000?
  • Altivec capable CPU (but probably not until the PowerBooks are updated further)

PowerBooks:
  • All of the 17" features to the 15" model
  • Not sure about the GeForce 4 MX Go series: I need pixel shaders, even on the move :cool:
  • Some of the 17" features on the 12" model (only because I don't have a DVI monitor )

PowerMacs: clockspeed/PowerPC 970 upgrades banned? Hmmm....
  • ATA 133/Serial ATA
  • All duals (until the 970 arrives)
  • midrange graphics card and cheaper BTO upgrades. It's +£97 for the Radeon 9000 upgrade but +£308 for the 9700 or GeForce 4600 upgrade :eek: Maybe Radeon 9500 and GeForce 4200 options?

[ 02-08-2003: Message edited by: Stoo ]</p>
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post #28 of 30
1) Faster memory
2) More bandwidth
3) Faster Processors
post #29 of 30
[quote]Originally posted by strobe:
<strong>Also:

flatsceen displays with WYSIWYG. Square pixels on ALL MODELS APPLE!</strong><hr></blockquote>

Perhaps I'm exceptionally stupid, but what's that supposed to mean!?
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post #30 of 30
all lines:
Lower prices to europe/australia customers.

powermac, imac:
Standardized serial ATA drive "cartridge" allows hard drives to be conveniently swapped. PowerMacs should have two bays; imacs just one and an internal hd.

ipod:
plugs in the serial ATA bay.
user-replacable battery.
audio input.

displays:
tilt and swivel like iMac.
forget ADC, use DVI. If someone needs a USB hub, they can afford $30.
smaller sizes and lower prices.
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