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post #1 of 47
9/19/03 at 6:43am
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Is this a recent development (within the past 24-36 hours)? When visiting AI on a non-Safari browser (Explorer, for example, on my OS 9-based G4 at work) EVERYTIME you click in the forums (to read a thread, to post a thread, to check a forum, etc.) a pop-up ad...well, pops up (the notion of me visiting AI during work is a whole other thread and doesn't really pertain to the matter at hand, so don't start with me).



But seriously...has the place gone pop-up crazy in the past day or so?

Just so I'm clear, Explorer doesn't offer a pop-up blocker like Safari does, right?
post #2 of 47
9/19/03 at 7:08am
Same here!

I get a emode.com popup add every time I move around in the forums... THIS IS PISSING ME OFF... only because they don't pop up in view, they do so in the background so after I close my AI window I am bombarded with like 30+ emode.com windows.

I use IE.

Also I know you guys need to pay for bandwith but I hope all the extra adds are for doing just that...
post #3 of 47
9/19/03 at 7:40am
Why anyone still uses IE is a mystery to me.

If I have to work on an OS 9 machine (or a PC) I always use Mozilla.
I haven't seen a pop in, what, like two years?
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post #4 of 47
9/19/03 at 7:48am
I am on a PC... Mozilla is great but I only use it under linux... I use IE under WinXP... you know the browser that is part/built-in to/of explorer (finder for windows).
post #5 of 47
9/19/03 at 7:52am
I use Mozilla Firebird when I have to use Windows.
post #6 of 47
9/19/03 at 8:02am
Quote:
Originally posted by Cake
Why anyone still uses IE is a mystery to me.

I don't normally use IE... Right now, however, IE is the only browser that isn't KILLED by the #$$#%@#@ "Shoot the Bottle" ads!

So... choose your poison. Tons of pop-ups, or hung browser windows. Great choices.

Has someone at AppleInsider recently decided the just don't like running this web site anymore, so they've decided to drive everyone away?

GET RID OF "SHOOT THE BOTTLE"!!!!!
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post #7 of 47
9/19/03 at 8:05am
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Originally posted by \\/\\/ickes
I am on a PC... Mozilla is great but I only use it under linux... I use IE under WinXP... you know the browser that is part/built-in to/of explorer (finder for windows).

When I'm on my gaming rig at home - a PC running XP, I use Mozilla there too.

There is no reason why you have to run IE on a PC except when you need to run Windows Update (and there's probably a way around that too).
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post #8 of 47
9/19/03 at 8:07am
Shoot the bottle?

Safari and Mozilla aren't bothered by them.



EDIT: Interesting. I guess others are having trouble with S.T.B., but no hangs on my end. I wonder what the difference is? Hmm.
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post #9 of 47
9/19/03 at 8:09am
So that's what's making safari and mozilla hang.

I use safari and camino on my apples, and mozilla on my pc. There is no reason in the world why anyone should be using IE as a primary browser. There is also no reason why anyone should have problems with pop-up ads these days.

Is AI getting paid more to have a bunch of pop-up ads?
post #10 of 47
9/19/03 at 8:19am
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Well I do. We can turn this into a browser pissing contest, or we can stay focused on the things I ask in the opening post.



But I'll check out these other options in the meantime.

For the record, I DON'T use IE at home (haven't since January, when I happily switched to Safari and haven't looked back). I have an OS X-only Mac at home, so it REALLY sucks to use OS 9 8 hours a day.



But I wasn't aware of this Mozilla stuff running on 9 and so forth.
post #11 of 47
9/19/03 at 8:19am
emode.com is making me emad!
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post #12 of 47
9/19/03 at 8:28am
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Originally posted by Cake
When I'm on my gaming rig at home - a PC running XP, I use Mozilla there too.

There is no reason why you have to run IE on a PC except when you need to run Windows Update (and there's probably a way around that too).

God you people make me sick... and NO there is no way to update without IE (unless you turn on auto-update and let it do its "thang")

I like Mozilla! but IE is the way to go when in windows!
post #13 of 47
9/19/03 at 8:29am
I hope I am not speaking too soon but I have not had a popup in like the past hour... did they turn them off?

YaY no more emode!
post #14 of 47
9/19/03 at 8:51am
Quote:
Originally posted by \\/\\/ickes
I like Mozilla! but IE is the way to go when in windows!

That's funny!
I believe you'd be in the minority with that opinion.
Even Opera is better than IE on a PC.
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post #15 of 47
9/19/03 at 9:47am
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Originally posted by \\/\\/ickes
I hope I am not speaking too soon but I have not had a popup in like the past hour... did they turn them off?

YaY no more emode!

No such luck. I just closed out 18 of them.... (what sucks is that in my office we aren't allowed to DL other browsers... ::+sigh+::
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post #16 of 47
9/19/03 at 10:05am
Quote:
Originally posted by Cake
Shoot the bottle?

Safari and Mozilla aren't bothered by them.

"Shoot the Bottle" is a banner ad, not a pop-up -- just to make sure you know what I'm talking about.

Maybe it doesn't bother your Safari and Mozilla, but it sure as hell screws up mine -- and for other people who try to use AI as well. Mozilla and Netscape, on both OS X and Windows won't work properly, nor does Safari -- web pages lock up or act strangely soon after the banner ad appears.

Do you have Java turned off? I think "Shoot the Bottle" is an applet, or uses an applet. If that's the difference, I'll be damned if I have to give up Java applets just because some idiot coder for an obnoxious internet advertister is screwing things up.

The only reason I bring this banner ad issue up in a thread about pop-up is that I'm now having to put up with pop-ups since my favorite pop-up blocking browsers are being sabotaged by "Shoot the Bottle".
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post #17 of 47
9/19/03 at 10:13am
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Originally posted by Cake
That's funny!
I believe you'd be in the minority with that opinion.
Even Opera is better than IE on a PC.


Oh god... listen... I LIKE IE...
OK? Do ya got a problem with that? Or do I have to eKick your ass!

Let us leave it at this... I like IE under windows... and you don't.

So let us get back on topic...

I did speak too soon... the mutter ducking emode.com popups are back.

AI are you on crack? Why piss off your members?
post #18 of 47
9/19/03 at 10:18am
Yeah, I remember seeing the "Shoot the bottle" banner (which showed up after those super annoying blinking ones disappeared), but I've never experienced any hangs, slowness or anything adverse when it loads.

Java is enabled.
JavaScript is enabled.

I'm at a loss as to why things are different on this system, but I'm glad that they are.
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post #19 of 47
9/19/03 at 1:18pm
I absolutely hate Pop-ups and I get one now with every single page change
ANd I am using Safari and disable JAVA . .

but why should I have to do that?!?!?!

tell your pop-up add people that they can gaurantee that I will not not not even look at the content of any Pop-up . . . ever!!!!
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post #20 of 47
9/19/03 at 1:21pm
I think there should be an optional paid ad-free subscription thing. I'd pay maybe $1-$2 per month to get ad-free access. Low End Mac does this and they don't even have any popup ads.
post #21 of 47
9/19/03 at 4:09pm
I use Safari, have pop ups blocked, and have PithHelmet installed. Java is enabled.

I honestly have no idea what you guys are talking about. One of these days I'll turn these things off and check it out.

Not.

post #22 of 47
9/19/03 at 4:21pm
Great help you are murbot.
post #23 of 47
9/19/03 at 4:47pm
If you've read the other threads in here, you know that there isn't anything we can do directly about the ads, but we're looking into it.

Anyway, it IS a suggestion. Using Safari, blocking popups and running PithHelmet, I have not seen one of these things ever.

I'm sure the issue will be resolved soon enough. In the mean time, you can either try these things out, or suffer through it, unfortunately.
post #24 of 47
9/19/03 at 7:54pm
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Well, I'm back home now, on OS X (thank God!), running Safari. Not a pop-up window to be found. Just the way I like it.



Surfing this site at work sucks. Must be a sign of some sort, huh?
post #25 of 47
9/19/03 at 9:28pm
Quote:
Originally posted by \\/\\/ickes
Oh god... listen... I LIKE IE...
OK? Do ya got a problem with that? Or do I have to eKick your ass!

Let us leave it at this... I like IE under windows... and you don't.

That's fine, but you are taking to computer folk, so illogical concepts are really difficult for us to understand. We are also apple users, so aesthetics are obviously important to us, too.

Quote:
AI are you on crack? Why piss off your members?

Here's what happened to me. I have used IE at work for a while, not for any good reason, but just because I was being lazy. Sure I hated all of the explorer windows, but it wasn't incentive enough to move.

Then I started having formating problems here on the AI forums. So I switched to Firebird and then Mozilla. Greatest thing I ever did. I get my tabbed browsing, google in right in the app and have no pop-up problems.

You might want to try doing the same.

It's actually a smart move on whoever is getting the money from the pop-up ads. It's a mac forum and really the only people getting screwed are those using Internet Explorer. So AppleInsider is making money from these advertisers without affecting people posting here (unless you use IE, which most mac users hopefully don't).

That said, shetline's absolutely right that that bottle ad needs to go.
post #26 of 47
9/20/03 at 3:24pm
My computer has crashed 3 times because of those FCKING POP-UPS! I've been here for a long time but unless the pop-ups go, I'm gone. Theres no reason to torture your members with something so obnoxious!................................
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post #27 of 47
9/20/03 at 4:11pm
The adds have stopped for me again... but for how long?
post #28 of 47
9/20/03 at 4:33pm
Well not for long... they are poping up everyware!
post #29 of 47
9/20/03 at 4:36pm
Quote:
Originally posted by giant
That said, shetline's absolutely right that that bottle ad needs to go.

The delegate from the United States seconds that motion. That ad is causing me all kinds of grief too.
post #30 of 47
9/20/03 at 4:51pm
I think we're missing something very important here...

Did someone mention drinks? Good call!

Cheers!
post #31 of 47
9/20/03 at 5:34pm
I just downloaded mozilla and will install it later. However, i am using AOL for OS9 and I would just like to use the built in browser. However, the pop-ups are making it impossible. To have to use an external browser is a pain, however I have had to use IE for some sites that will not work in AOL for OS9s old built in browser.

I just did not want to have to use an external browser for a site I use very often, such as AI.

AI-just put the damn ads on the page, and drop the pop-ups! You are pissing off your loyal members-is it worth it?...................
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post #32 of 47
9/20/03 at 5:39pm
I use netscape 7.1 with no problems i turn off animation in netscape prefs and if yu right click some you can turn it off, i'll consider mozilla on my pc dell xp
safari on my mac and i downloaded a plugin call pithhelmit or something like that and worked great.

i try not to use MS software regardless of pc or mac. except i can't get mac mail to send,tried everything maybe i need to get entourage. but themain reason is that i don't like MS and using windows and IE or outlook are virus magnets so i avoid them.

i wish mac mail worked, i hope for an update, or move to webmail from adelphia or entourage, any others you suggest for email and there cost???
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post #33 of 47
9/20/03 at 8:24pm
OK, I am using mozilla now and the pop-ups are everywhere still. Its also a little sluggish. Is there a way to trun off pop-ups with mozilla? I checked preferences but didnt see anything there. Thanks
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post #34 of 47
9/20/03 at 9:24pm
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Originally posted by steve666
I checked preferences but didnt see anything there.

Preferences: Privacy & Security: Popup Windows
post #35 of 47
9/20/03 at 9:25pm
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Originally posted by steve666
OK, I am using mozilla now and the pop-ups are everywhere still. Its also a little sluggish. Is there a way to trun off pop-ups with mozilla? I checked preferences but didnt see anything there. Thanks

Preferences -->Privacy & Security -->Popup Windows -->Block unrequested popup windows
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post #36 of 47
9/20/03 at 9:29pm
heh, I type slowly.

And \\/\\/ickes, there's no use bitching about a problem that is easy to solve.
I understand that you love IE, but that's the cause of your woes and until you try another browser you are stuck with popups.
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post #37 of 47
9/21/03 at 4:03pm
Interesting, I don't have an option for pop-up windows. Are you sure its offered for OS9 version of mozilla? Its also slow as heck. Even slower than IE which is a dog...................
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post #38 of 47
9/21/03 at 5:14pm
Quote:
Originally posted by Cake
heh, I type slowly.

And \\/\\/ickes, there's no use bitching about a problem that is easy to solve.
I understand that you love IE, but that's the cause of your woes and until you try another browser you are stuck with popups.

God... I thought we settled this... I am "bitching." because the browser I use is my choice! I should not be forced to use others just because they block popups...

Using other browsers only hides the fact that AI is bombarding us with adds!

This fact is much more important than why IE sucks and why you seem to care that I use it.

When you look at the big picture the problem sits with who hosts AI...

So Cake grow up and duck off!

EDIT: hey mods... is it ok to tell someone to "duck off"?
post #39 of 47
9/21/03 at 7:04pm
I killed a significant portion of what (being code-challenged) looked like pop up code.

I refuse to let this site become awful.


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post #40 of 47
9/21/03 at 7:29pm
Thank you.
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