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post #121 of 155
10/1/03 at 1:53pm
after each charge the full battery seems to last less long. I can get under two hours now with the LCD on minimum brightness.
It also seems to be less real-life battery-time not only display.
Can this damage the battery? Should I leave my Powerbook at home and let it connected? Can I uninstall this update without erasing my HD?
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post #122 of 155
10/1/03 at 1:59pm
yeah it screwed me up too future-ex, however one thing I think is its not reporting it right, valid my battery life isn't as much as it supposed to be, but I think its lasting longer than what it says up top.
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post #123 of 155
10/1/03 at 2:05pm
that's right, it is longer than on the display but shorter than before the update. Perhaps the battery isn't even charged completely, because charging seems faster now. (I haven't clocked the time before the update :-))
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post #124 of 155
10/1/03 at 3:27pm
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Originally posted by mattarino
For those having ethernet issues with this update, I found this on Macupdate:

"AppleGMACEthernet Patch fixes the issues with the 10-base T ethernet cards when upgrading from Mac OS X 10.2.6+ to 10.2.8. It simply downgrades the AppleGMACEthernet.kext file from 1.3 to 1.2.4."

http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/12907

Just thought this may be helpful. I haven't had problems myself, but I'd be interested to know if it helped for others that do.

This patch is excellent. It's the same as the solution on the Apple discussion boards, but does all the dirty work for you. You don't have to open the system folder and find the extension yourself. Just download and install. Worked perfectly for me and my 12" powerbook.
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post #125 of 155
10/1/03 at 4:39pm
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Originally posted by future-ex-pc-user
after each charge the full battery seems to last less long. I can get under two hours now with the LCD on minimum brightness.
It also seems to be less real-life battery-time not only display.
Can this damage the battery? Should I leave my Powerbook at home and let it connected? Can I uninstall this update without erasing my HD?

If you delete the System folder, and then reinstall, the Installer will only make a new System folder, and nothing else. Then download 10.2.7.

I had to do this when 10.2.5 gave me problems. It was a lifesaver.
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post #126 of 155
10/1/03 at 10:09pm
I guess with the 10.2.8 snafu, Apple will provide Panther free to Jaguar owners.
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post #127 of 155
10/2/03 at 9:02am
Still not out yet. WTF.
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post #128 of 155
10/2/03 at 9:52am
10.2.8 is gradually fscking my computer up more and more. Apple better bring that fix out this week or I'm not buying Panther from them. I'm officially pissed beyond belief. WTF is going on? Hello dush bags you have left thousands of people with a screwed up OS and no fix... WTF is your problem??????????????????????????????????????????? ????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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post #129 of 155
10/2/03 at 9:57am
Good air in, bad air out. Good air in, bad air out.

Now that our chee is restored... other then the battery and enet issues, what else is wrong?
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post #130 of 155
10/2/03 at 10:16am
Well I'm selling my G4 450 tower to a friend and I'd like it not to screw up on her. Since upgrading to 10.2.8 the finder will refuse to recognize my Kensington wireless mouse upon start up every so often. It's maddening!
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post #131 of 155
10/2/03 at 11:47am
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Now that our chee is restored... other then the battery and enet issues, what else is wrong?



Did you read the thread? BR is going psycho. Don't blame him. Me, I'm just pissed all audio skips when using the network. But there are lots of smaller glitches.
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post #132 of 155
10/2/03 at 12:00pm
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Originally posted by Aquatic
Did you read the thread? BR is going psycho.

Exactly correct. He is going psycho. After doing a format and zero there is NO chance that the OS had anything to do with his problems. He simply got a lemon. $hit happens, even to BR. Excluding the wide reaching enet problems and some performance anxiety (which is common among powerbook users and 10.x.x updates) there are rather few glitches. Some folks have actually seen improvement. There will always be issues with 3rd party hardware and system updates. Get in touch with your vendors if they cease functioning. *geez, you you'd think that the sky was falling*

EDIT: I particularly like the "Apple better bring that fix out this week or I'm not buying Panther from them" That'll show them....
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post #133 of 155
10/2/03 at 1:37pm
All sorts of things have been going wrong with my used to be heathy PowerBook. Apple has no excuse for being so out to launch. The bugs that got through with this update have no reason to be there. The only reason for them is that Apple did not debug their code well enough. I don't want to buy Panther cause I'm afriad it will have even more bugs in it than I have now. I would do a clean install of 10.2.6 but I don't have the time. I backed everything up just in case it decides to crash completely. All I have to say is that it used to never do anything weird and now weird things are happening. Like File sharing wouldn't load the other day and the internet wouldn't work. One windor opened itself but wouldn't close. etc etc... very annoying...
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post #134 of 155
10/2/03 at 1:47pm
Algol, you have enough time to do a full backup and to tolerate the bugs but NOT enough time to reload? You could set it to image in the time it took you to post here. My advice to EVERYONE is rollback. Granted AAPL screwed the pooch and released something which is less then kosher, but since we are being left to pick up the pieces, we should cope.
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post #135 of 155
10/2/03 at 3:28pm
Ok dude it doesn't take any time at all to back up but it takes forever to put eveything back on from CDs. Sometimes if you just copy the program they don't work and you have to actually use the installer. Thats why...
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post #136 of 155
10/3/03 at 4:31am
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Originally posted by Not Unlike Myself
nihat_y, do you work for Apple?

Ha!. wish I did.. No. Live in Australia, so can't go to Cupertino to work.
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post #137 of 155
10/3/03 at 6:17am
something is on its way:

http://www.thinksecret.com/news/macosx10282.html
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post #138 of 155
10/4/03 at 8:37pm
I don't know about you guys.. But I got the first release of 10.2.8 and I've been running fine. I haven't experienced any of the problems people have reported. In fact I've been running better than ever. It feels like it anyway.
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post #139 of 155
10/5/03 at 12:18pm
Ok, I update to 10.2.8 the 2nd version, and had a kernel P five minutes later, this never happened before... I say this update still has issues.
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post #140 of 155
10/5/03 at 12:33pm
after applying the 10.2.8 small 'fix' I started having a lot of trouble staying connected to the net (airport - cable) so I downloaded and installed the 10.2.8 combo update ... my system really seems stable now and my net connection is really FAST again.
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post #141 of 155
10/5/03 at 1:15pm
Is there anything wrong with applying a Combo update to an already 10.2.8? I keep hearing such good things about Combo updaters. I will try this if doesn't harm anything.
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post #142 of 155
10/5/03 at 1:59pm
I don't think there is any problem applying the combo update if you already have 10.2.8 ... I also have heard that the combo updates are less problematic than the smaller versions. anyway, I am really pleased at the improvement that I'm seeing .. can't say if it's the combo or not, but I am in the process of installing it on my other Ti book jsut in case.
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post #143 of 155
10/6/03 at 10:27am
I for one won't be updating my 'main' machine until Panther.
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post #144 of 155
10/6/03 at 9:04pm
Stuck with 10.2.3 until now. Fixed permissions ==> 10.2.8 Combo (97 MB) via dial-up ==> permissions again. Seems quite solid so far. I'd recommend it, or my name isn't Locomotive!

Now if Apple just offers a $70 (US) Jaguar-to-Panther upgrade...
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post #145 of 155
10/7/03 at 6:38am
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Originally posted by Locomotive
Stuck with 10.2.3 until now. Fixed permissions ==> 10.2.8 Combo (97 MB) via dial-up ==> permissions again. Seems quite solid so far. I'd recommend it, or my name isn't Locomotive!

Now if Apple just offers a $70 (US) Jaguar-to-Panther upgrade...

They do. It's called .edu discount. $69
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post #146 of 155
10/7/03 at 6:50am
12" powerbooks (first generation) used to deliver in iTunes visuals a maximum of 60 fps under OpenGL. Now with 10.2.8 the performance under the same settings does not seem to exceed 30 fps. Has anyone noticed that? Is something because of 10.2.8?
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post #147 of 155
10/17/03 at 10:25am
Well now the problem with my kensington wireless mouse is back after installing Quicktime 6.4 and iTunes 4.1 ! The very same problem that was started with the first release of 10.2.8 and cured with the revision.

I had used it all summer long ( since May ) with 10.2.6 no problems.

This is just stupid. Apple will say it's Kensington's fault Kensington will say it's Apple's fault. I'm tired of that BS. I just want the damn thing to work!
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post #148 of 155
10/17/03 at 11:16am
Update to QT 6.4 and iTunes 4.1. Guess what? Still can't get more than 30 fps. Great updates Apple. Nice to see you treating loyal users well.
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post #149 of 155
10/17/03 at 11:25am
After updating to 10.2.8 I have had frequent system lockups and horrible battery life!
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post #150 of 155
10/17/03 at 11:44am
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Originally posted by PB
12" powerbooks (first generation) used to deliver in iTunes visuals a maximum of 60 fps under OpenGL. Now with 10.2.8 the performance under the same settings does not seem to exceed 30 fps. Has anyone noticed that? Is something because of 10.2.8?

You did uncheck the "cap framerate at 30" setting, right?
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post #151 of 155
10/17/03 at 5:28pm
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Originally posted by Aquatic
Update to QT 6.4 and iTunes 4.1. Guess what? Still can't get more than 30 fps. Great updates Apple. Nice to see you treating loyal users well.

New iTunes (yay!) on 10.2.8 and my Al 15" can hit 57 fps...

Try Smircle's suggestion
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post #152 of 155
10/19/03 at 12:14pm
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Originally posted by jimmac
Well now the problem with my kensington wireless mouse is back after installing Quicktime 6.4 and iTunes 4.1 ! The very same problem that was started with the first release of 10.2.8 and cured with the revision.

I had used it all summer long ( since May ) with 10.2.6 no problems.

This is just stupid. Apple will say it's Kensington's fault Kensington will say it's Apple's fault. I'm tired of that BS. I just want the damn thing to work!

Kensington released a new beta of Mouseworks and it cured the problem.

Thank you Kensington.
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post #153 of 155
10/20/03 at 1:28am
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Originally posted by Smircle
You did uncheck the "cap framerate at 30" setting, right?

Right. It simply cannot exceed 30 fps, whatever the settings. Before, full-screen visuals played between 57 and 63 fps (OpenGL enabled, cap disabled). New QT and iTunes updates had no effect.
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post #154 of 155
10/20/03 at 12:31pm
Yup.

Audio seems to be skipping a little less but it still skips.
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post #155 of 155
10/20/03 at 3:46pm
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Originally posted by Aquatic
Yup.

Audio seems to be skipping a little less but it still skips.

Mine doesn't skip at all
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