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post #41 of 155
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Originally posted by Smircle
This is the worst update Apple has delivered since the 7.5.4 desaster. :-(

which screwed my performa 630 2 weeks before my design degree show...

those were the days!
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post #42 of 155
oooohhhh.... that sucked.
what was it that happened again?

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post #43 of 155
This is so odd. I've yet to find a problem and I've tested everything I could think of.

Not that I'm complaining mind you.

Sorry about the ones it didn't work for.
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post #44 of 155
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Originally posted by Smircle
This is the worst update Apple has delivered since the 7.5.4 desaster. :-(

Look at all the updates that are problematic:
ProDOS 16: IIgs update, unoptimized (PowerMacs and 7.1.2 anybody?)
3.1: Yay, 30-50 new bugs!
6.0.0 and 6.0.1: 6.0.1 wasn't even released!
7.1.2: Buggy, get 'em out the door upgrade for PMs.
7.1.Pro: Dead PowerTalk, other stuff (some dead.)
7.5.2: What is Apple's 2 thing? Two different versions, same name, required enablers, offered no advant. to other owners, Open T problems.
7.5.4: Killed, but produced a good upgrade (7.5.5.)
7.6: Buggy, problematic, Bluets and Granola Bars "make a chewy snack."
8.5: Serious problem. Took till 8.5.1 to fix.
10.0: Slow.
10.2: Nother 2 thing. Buggy.
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post #45 of 155
I downloaded MacOSX 10.2.8 and now my monitor will randomly stop receiving information as if the computer had shut down. I've checked the cords and stuff like that, and when I force restart the monitor works again for a while.
post #46 of 155
My battery life went from 3 1/2 hours to a solid 1 hour and 55 minutes... why apple why?
Its just not worth it too reinstall everything either
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post #47 of 155
Do you think these problems with 10.2.8 will push back the release of 10.3?
post #48 of 155
For what it's worth, I'm on a dual 500 G4 and have had zero problems since installing 10.2.8 two nights ago.
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Do you think these problems with 10.2.8 will push back the release of 10.3?

Not likely. 10.2 and 10.3 are on very different development branches.
post #49 of 155
Hey Gregg I read something about .plists which are the preference files for applications. Perhaps the update messed up your .plist.

I have not had networking problems. However my battery time on my 12" PowerBook now has 1 hour 18 minutes time at 100% charge. That is freakin retarded Apple. I will reset NVRAM later to see if it fixes it.
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post #50 of 155
How do you reset NVRAM? Yeah I have 1:37 on my fully charged PB as well!
post #51 of 155
same here! 1:30 minutes about on full battery on my 1Ghz Tibook. I used to get 2:30 about. With around 3:00s if I used some power management. There has to be some way to fix this? I'm not going to reinstall everything. I have so much stuff it would take all day and i don't have all day for a long time yet.
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post #52 of 155
Just unplugged the power cable from the back of my TiBook 800. Time remaining is 1:32. It used to read just over two hours before, though I've never run it all the way out to test it. I'm going to stay unplugged and see what happens today.

Upgraded my TiBook 800 to 10.2.8 yesterday with no probs noted at all. I use an airport for wireless access though and I don't use the IP addresses that are on Apple's Tech Note describing the 10.2.8 problem. I'm going to wait a few more days before upgrading my son's Pismo. If it ain't broke...

Anyone notice that the Keyboard and Mouse System Prefs are combined now? Kind of reminds me when Monitors and Sound got combined way back in OS 8 days.

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post #53 of 155
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107669

its official, just got an apple tech note that it was pulled offline

inotherwords: apple****up
post #54 of 155
I'm not sure what NVRAM is I havn't rebooted while holding the P and R keys yet, (along with apple + option) but I have pulled out the keyboard and pushed that little button.

Still nada as of yet tho, this sux major ass
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post #55 of 155
Also check this guys please. In DVD Player movies skip every now and then maybe once a minute, the audio sounds weird for a second and the frame pauses. Geez 10.2.6 just BARELY fixed DVD Player from skipping on PowerBook 12"s. Not happy about 10.2.8 now. Should've waited! I hope when they release the fixed update we can update from the bad 10.2.8!
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post #56 of 155
Just got the "power is almost out, better plug in" warning message.

A little under two hours actual use, certainly more than the 1:32 that the system told me when I unplugged. Maybe Apple is just being more conservative.

Joe
post #57 of 155
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Originally posted by Cosmo
iMac 333 10.2.6--->10.2.8 no problems
30 gig drive, 384megs of ram
Today is my iMac's last day of work as my powerbook will arrive tomorrow. Should i buy a cheap gold watch as a retirement gift?

May you please tell me whether you use Ethernet and an internet connection on this computer? I need to know before I update some business computers which are 333 MHz iMacs.

(I've already downloaded it before it was pulled, so if I'm sure that the update is OK, then I think I'll go ahead and install it.)
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post #58 of 155
I just discovered that my network setting are about 75% hosed and cannot be changed. DHCP is gone as an option. I'm stuck on one location and cannot change. It seemed like everything was fine until I changed locations at work and now it's all wrong and locked.

Worst update ever.
post #59 of 155
Apple will have a new 10.2.8 out within a few days. ... I hope...
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post #60 of 155
Hummmm Some odd mojo working here. I did a permission repair and after a heart stopping shutdown and restart it seems to be working.
post #61 of 155
I repaired BEFORE I installed so maybe that is why my 10.2.8 is otherwise ok. I'm on DHCP at college and the Ethernet is fine.
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post #62 of 155
had the same problem with my battery .. reset the NVRAM but it didnt seem to make a difference but I'm unplugged and will run until it shuts down and see if that helps
post #63 of 155
iTunes also has strange "skips." the music gets fuzzy for a second, like if you unplug a PowerBook, you know how the sound messes up for a second, like a grinding noise. This is either streamed or MP3 on my hard drive. I'm writing Apple on this. This is a terrible update.
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post #64 of 155
My brother (a PowerMac G4 owner) tells me he's had no problems with the ethernet. He also said that the ethernet problems occurred only with dual 450 and dual 500 G4s on 10 base T networks. I don't know if that's true or where he heard it from though. He has a Quicksilver 867, and my mom has a dual 500 but she probably didn't install 10.2.8 and we're on a 100 base T network anyway.
post #65 of 155
First of all I have not noticed any Network trouble. I did loose my connection a while ago but it came back. I firgure that this is just my University screwing up. I drained and recharged my battery twice but it didn't do any good. I even reset the power management. Nothing!

I get those skips in iTunes as well. I didn't think of 10.2.8 causing them untill I read this though. I wish I had not updated to this fscked up update. Apple you can kiss my ass. Dush Bags! Someone must have been smoking the reefer instead of debugging this update. Smoke the grass on the weekend not at work Dush. I have had no trouble with my comp nothing perfect computer. Now all these small things are going wrong. I hate to think of what else is screwed up that I have not found yet. If this update screws my Battery because of the faulty power management apple is buying me a new one.
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post #66 of 155
I'm with you Algol. I really can't wait for Panther! It seems after a while any version of OS X starts having "problems." I even deactivated all Haxies a while back to avoid problems like these.

My PowerBook 12" is pretty new, I don't know why OS X thinks it has so much less capacity.
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post #67 of 155
fyi I downloaded 10.2.8 on Monday via dialup, and installation onto my 17" PB went fine. I have had no problems at all.... which is a relief considering what I've read here and elsewhere.

Today I used my PB for a Keynote presentation about how to assess aircraft software.
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post #68 of 155
dual g4 is fine, but have noticed the pismo powerbook has trouble maintaining an airport connection.
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post #69 of 155
I have a similar problem here.
I have 1:58 on my 12" powerbook now after a full dicharge-charge cycle. (brightness is turned down to 1)
In normal conditions I can easyly get over 3-4 hours on a full charge.
I haven't clocked this time, so probably it's just a display issue.

Some good things about the update:
- Quicktime player doesn't show this quicktime pro dialog at startup
- my powerbook doesn't get hot at all (I haven't pushed it to it's limits yet, but it definitely runs cooler)
- no network problems here
post #70 of 155
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Originally posted by Smircle
I have received two independ reports on problems after upgrading to 10.2.8.
One trashed system after installing Stuffit 8 and 10.2.8 - not even single user would work.
One failure to reboot after installing 10.2.8.

Wonder what went wrong, do you have a lot of beta software that could potential screw your self over? maybe heavy installations of trialware?

option @ boot time?
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post #71 of 155
Update: I took the powerbook to work today and got right on the wireless network. Did not have the same trouble posted above. So maybe it was a random glitch unrelated to the OS update?
post #72 of 155
Any news on the fix?
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post #73 of 155
I figured apple would have an update out by today, but I guess they are going to take the weekend to fix the problem. I am think monday or tuesday next week they will have 10.2.8.1 out. lol I wonder what they will call it?
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post #74 of 155
I win.

HOSED an iMac 15" ... would not go to the login screen, and stayed with a terrible blue screen. Shat myself.

Discussions at Apple showed it wasn`t the only one to do this.

Rebooted off CD to do a clean install. Could not mount the hard drive. Could not select OS 9 at startup.

Bad bad bad bad bad bad bad.

Started up in single user mode, blessed OS 9 from the command line, booted OS 9 (phew) and restarted by using the OS 9 --> OS X installer application.

Scary shit.
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post #75 of 155
Gah! My kernel is in a perpetual state of panic!

Browsing in Safari. 10 minutes pass. "You need to restart your computer."

Playing EV: Nova. 3 minutes pass. "You need to restart your computer."

Run Disk Utility. Tests halfway through. "You need to restart your computer."

God dammit my freakin win2k pc is more stable than this. ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH!

 

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post #76 of 155
Yay! I'm downgrading!

http://www.thexlab.com/faqs/downgrade1028.html

What a god damn pain in the mother****ing ass.

Well...I'm trying to downgrade...if it doesn't keep ****ing freezing when I'm trying to start up from the ****ing restore CD.

 

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post #77 of 155
Great. Kernel decided to panic again while attempting to start up from the CD for the THIRD time.

 

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post #78 of 155
I'm officially pissed off.

 

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post #79 of 155
FINALLY! Finally after 5 restarts, zapping the PRAM, two more restarts where the power would turn on but the screen and hard disk wouldn't spin up, and finally one more restart, I'm into the installer...doing an Archvie & Install.

And it is taking forever.

 

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post #80 of 155
NO! This is some crazy ****ed up backwards world!

2:58 AM -> Time Remaining: 1 hour 20 minutes.
2:59 AM -> Time Remaining: 1 hour 25 minutes.
3:00 AM -> Time Remaining: 1 hour 34 minutes.
3:01 AM -> Time Remaining: 1 hour 38 minutes...correction. 1 hour 40 minutes.
3:02 AM -> Time Remaining: 1 hour 52 minutes.

Looks like I'll break the 2 hour mark soon...

Yup.

3:03 AM -> Time Remaining: 2 hours 2 minutes.

God dammit.

 

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