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post #41 of 164
Show me some pictures and I might believe you.
post #42 of 164
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Not even I know what the case will look like. I wonder if Schiler does?
post #43 of 164
If that spec is true I guess I will wait until Fall for the Dual G5. My computer loan ends in October so it's a perfect time

The price increase of the low end seems non-sense but when think about super drive is bundles that would make sense.

Again....ONLY IF what Mr. Mastergating said is true....
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post #44 of 164
wait wait wait wait waaaaaaaait. you (dan) jump all down this guys throat and you don't even know what u are talking about. I mean come on how the heck do you think you can justify claiming what he has said as b.s. if you can get the the difference between the current g4 and the apollo? i mean seriously it's people like you that make the world a sick place to live in. i really cant stand people who punk other posters for b.s. or being stupid, but of course its not their fault they were born dumber than me. lol
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post #45 of 164
Mastergateing-

Got any more info/jiuce to help convince us to believe you?

Any info on new monitors? Will the G5 in fact have a new case? DDR ram? Faster bus? Gigawire? What is gigawire?

I want some juice!!
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post #46 of 164
You say that the new iMac will have a 15.2 inch LCD. Can anyone verify that the Quanta shipment was 15.2 inch LCD's? Now, the only 15.2 inch LCD I know of is the one in the Powerbook G4, which is a widescreen. Mastergateing, do you know if the iMac G4's will be widescreen?
post #47 of 164
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post #48 of 164
And The Mysterious? Come on, give us a hint.
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post #49 of 164
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Mastergateing-
Got any more info/jiuce to help convince us to believe you?
Any info on new monitors? Will the G5 in fact have a new case? DDR ram? Faster bus? Gigawire? What is gigawire?
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You say that the new iMac will have a 15.2 inch LCD. Can anyone verify that the Quanta shipment was 15.2 inch LCD's? Now, the only 15.2 inch LCD I know of is the one in the Powerbook G4, which is a widescreen. Mastergateing, do you know if the iMac G4's will be widescreen?


The new Powermac will have a new enclosure, though I do not know what it will look like. I do know it will be new and of course beautiful. DDR Ram is a go with machines shiping with 266MHz DDR SDRAM. he new bus will be 400 Mhz or four times faster than the current G4 equivelant.

The LCD screen used in the iMac will indeed be similar if not the same one used in the Powerbook G4. I have heard that it is the same and it will be the "mega widescreen" display.
post #50 of 164
[quote]Originally posted by DanPCamera:
<strong>"but a cache flaw was discovered when the chips ran above 900Mhz. Motorola has steadfastly refused to rectify the problem, claiming that the release of it's 7460 was too near to justify the cost of fixing it. In the last few weeks, there has been talk of Apple filing a lawsuit against Motorola for having misrepresented its ability to produce microprocessors for Apple on a timely basis. This is essentially a repeat of the G4 fiasco that occurred in 1999, differing only in that Apple had not opened its mouth to the public too quickly. Steve Jobs was forced at the last minute before Macworld to change his product announcement, as the G4 lineup was supposed to have been 733 Mhz, 867Mhz, and dual 800Mhz and 1Ghz to ship in late august." </strong><hr></blockquote>

I read that as well - but a while back. This was in reference to an older pre-production revision of the G5 (0.5?) which did have a cache problem that caused many to think that yields would not be as high as initially expected (expectations were for it to start around 1.4GHZ). The problem was not with cache once placed into a Mac, as was suggested earlier in this thread, but rather a fault of the chip itself. The problem did slow down development, but was solved in a later revision (0.6?) that allowed the chip to soar past the GHz barrier. The G5 has not reached initial expectations, but it should in the next revision - for now expect the first models to top out around 1.4, but you shouldn't see anything under 1.0 GHz. FYI, these chips are being produced - it's just a matter of when we'll see them in an Apple machine.

It's also worth stating that Apple can't just start pushing machines out as soon as MOT is mass-producing a processor. I personally have no guess about whether we will see a G5 in Jan. or not - it's possible, but it would be tight. Bottom line: if Steve demo's a G5, I wouldn't expect one to ship for a month or so. If we get a speedy G4 revision, I'd expect them to be available "immediately" (2 weeks).

-S
post #51 of 164
1600x1024 on an iMac? That would be cool, but if the common iMac buyer is anything like my wife of Mom, then they should get a more moderate screen size. Like 1280x832 to keep the ratio or maybe even 1440x928.
post #52 of 164
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post #53 of 164
And The Mysterious? Come on, give us a hint.

"? and the MysteriANS" were a 60s rock group - they had that hit song '96 Tears.'
post #54 of 164
DDR Ram is a go with machines shiping with 266MHz DDR SDRAM. he new bus will be 400 Mhz or four times faster than the current G4 equivelant.

...

Unless I'm mistaken, 400Mhz is 3 times faster than the current G4s...

And I don't think it's possible to have a 400MHz FSB along with 266MHz DDR... Not sure though, can anyone back this up?
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post #55 of 164
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iMac G4

667 Mhz DVD or CD-RW
733 Mhz Combo
867 Mhz Superdrive

15.2 Inch LCD
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sign...would be great...if i could get a widescreen lcd iMac with a 867 mHz G4 and superdrive for $1599, the credit card would already be out of my wallet...guess we'll see soon enough...g
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post #56 of 164
I gotta stop reading this board, I can't get anything productive done! I come here and there's an interesting post followed by another contradictory post then another contradiction to that post and it goes on and on forever and you don't even get a second to live. I'm trying to live but these "insiders" won't let me!! WHY WON'T YOU LET ME LIVE!?!?
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post #57 of 164
[quote]Originally posted by Mastergateing:
<strong>Yep, Phil Schiller. There is my source, chew on that.
</strong><hr></blockquote>

[quote]Originally posted by Mastergateing:
<strong>Phil Schiller is not my source but the source is on his level. </strong><hr></blockquote>

This is why I can't belive a word your saying. Either he is your source or he isn't.

Personally I think your just regergitating various rumors that you think will come true so that you can have the spotlight knowing that if you get even some of them right you'll have people who will believe your an insider.

That said, I hope your right (even if you are just guessing)
post #58 of 164
if i could get a widescreen lcd iMac with a 867 mHz G4 and superdrive for $1599

Then what would justify the price premium for a PowerBook??? since the most expensive part of it, the screen, is the same btw both machines?
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post #59 of 164
What the **** how can they bump the ibook it just ****ing came out.
post #60 of 164
They can do whatever they damn want.
post #61 of 164
They can do whatever they want but will they want people rioting at cupertino?

The ibook was speedbumped last on October 16th. That would make a less than three month time for a speedbump, isn't that sort of unprecedented?
post #62 of 164
Furthermore, How can the price of that iMac 867 be justified with an expensive LCD and a superdrive.
I would say the parts alone would be about $1000+ total and how can apple keep such a profit margin?


Aint gona happen. I could see it without the superdrive, maybe.
post #63 of 164
The Superdrive will be optional.
post #64 of 164
[quote]Originally posted by X704:
<strong>

This is why I can't belive a word your saying. Either he is your source or he isn't.

</strong><hr></blockquote>


Plus he earlier asked himself a question and then answered it. He probably meant to ask the question under a different ID but messed it up. Funny. I have some beautiful property in Arizona with a wonderful view of the ocean if anyone is interested.
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post #65 of 164
[quote]Originally posted by apple_otaku:
<strong>I have some beautiful property in Arizona with a wonderful view of the ocean if anyone is interested.</strong><hr></blockquote>

:confused: :confused: :confused: Apple, Arizona isn't on the... ooooooooooh. <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />
post #66 of 164
What I want to know, is why would Apple buy out Motorola's Semiconductor division AND arrainge to have IBM do Altivec PPC fabrication?

One or the other, but why both....too suspicious!

As a hardware company, it wouldn't be out of the question for Apple to make their own chips, but it would be much smarter to buy IBM chips, at which point, there is no reason to buy a semiconductor division.

Now if they had a specific QT chip that gave major acceleration to Apple only media software.....I could see Apple wanting more mobo control.
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post #67 of 164
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One or the other, but why both....too suspicious!

You may want to re read my post. I said I have heard two things of which Apple might do.

I asked myself a question on purpose, sarcasm anyone?
post #68 of 164
Just asking a quick question:

Why is, that when someone like Mastergating or Dorsal posts something everyone has to chime in with reasons why they don't believe the post? Are you just thinking aloud? Or are you just stoopid and like to waste bandwidth?

If you believe it, believe it. If you don't, don't. Just don't post your sherlock holmes crap about "how can I believe him if he answered his own question"...

chill.
post #69 of 164
[quote]Originally posted by Mastergateing:
<strong>I guess you guys must get yanked around a lot considering the nature of the message board? I would place bets on my specs being the closest to the real ones, if I were a betting man. I am very, very accurate.</strong><hr></blockquote>

<img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />

The fact that you claim to be " very, very accurate" infers that you are accurate at guessing.

Had you thought your information was correct, you would have said that it was "correct".

Either way I think that your Mhz breakdown is accurate, but you are guessing as to price and features (i.e. Superdrive inclusion.)

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post #70 of 164
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In a few more days we will see. I will gain quite a following here, I suppose. Because I AM VER,VERY CORRECT.
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Y
post #72 of 164
If you consider all the posts on The Register plus the fact that they put dates on G5 production that coincide with the annoucement of the 'early keynote'... mmmh I'm beginning to believe ! On january 7, we will see iMac G4 AND PowerMac G5 AND one more thing... to 'sneeze' Bill in CES !

But I think also that for the iBook, we'll see improvment only at MWTK. Sahara for the iBook and Apollo for the Ti.

There is too much evidence all around the place... see the last on Amiga web site.
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post #73 of 164
whooops double !

[ 12-27-2001: Message edited by: jeromba ]</p>
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post #74 of 164
[quote]Originally posted by Mastergateing:
<strong>Y</strong><hr></blockquote>

You know, you can push the edit button and fix your posts.
post #75 of 164
[quote]Originally posted by mslee:
<strong>Just asking a quick question:

Why is, that when someone like Mastergating or Dorsal posts something everyone has to chime in with reasons why they don't believe the post? Are you just thinking aloud? Or are you just stoopid and like to waste bandwidth?

If you believe it, believe it. If you don't, don't. Just don't post your sherlock holmes crap about "how can I believe him if he answered his own question"...

chill.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Why is it that everytime someone mentions an inconsistancy that others must "waste bandwidth" telling them not to?

We're just voicing our oppinions in a discussion. Perhaps he is right, it's just that due to the inconsistancies I tend to believe he making it up. Perhaps he's not & just a confused person ... either way, lighten up, just pointing out things that others may find of interest.

Like I said, either way, I hope he's right (I just find it unlikely that he's an insider).

Mastergateing: Here's some question for you to ask your Phil "Level" source.

1.Does the new Power Mac/iMac have built in airport?

2.Gigawire (perhaps already asked?).

3.Does the PM have a second 5.25" drive bay?

4.Is the AGP port still 4x or is it 8x in the PM

5.What video card is in the new PM/iMac? Nvida 2mx? Geforce 3 Ti? ATI card?
post #76 of 164
I read the video card would be nForce (macnn i think) with HyperTransport (don't know the techie stuff)
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post #77 of 164
[quote]Originally posted by KidRed:
<strong>I read the video card would be nForce (macnn i think) with HyperTransport (don't know the techie stuff)</strong><hr></blockquote>

On both the PowerMacs & iMacs? I guess that'd make sense with the whole UMA idea. If this is the case will have an open AGP slot on the PM's?
post #78 of 164
Just found this on Appleinsider (old news)

[quote] Though it is unconfirmed by sources who can be considered reliable, its been said that the new line of iMacs are being designed with some of the same ideals as the company's new Power Book G4. One of the highly rumored features is said to be a wide-screen display, ideal for home video editing in iMovie.

Aside from the rumored wide-screen, sources say the iMac will acquired a 133MHz bus, sport processors with speeds of 533 and 633MHz, and finally pack a NVIDIA GeForce2 MX graphics processor for superior gaming performance.
<hr></blockquote>

There ya go
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post #79 of 164
[quote]Originally posted by mslee:
<strong>Just asking a quick question:

Why is, that when someone like Mastergating or Dorsal posts something everyone has to chime in with reasons why they don't believe the post? Are you just thinking aloud? Or are you just stoopid and like to waste bandwidth?
</strong><hr></blockquote>

Just keeping you very gullible people informed so you don't commit mass suicide when January 7th rolls around. You really think that someone that doesn't know how to edit posts and says things like "I am very, very correct" would have such high-level inside information? Sure its possible but it is extremely unlikely yet some people take it as gospel.
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post #80 of 164
Hmm... anyone remember an article released about 1 year ago title something like "Steve Jobs will wow the MacWorld crowd with a 17" iMac"?



I doubt their iMac predictions are close to what will be released.
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