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post #41 of 110
12/28/01 at 11:24am
alright is it at least mainland US? a commonwealth? east coast?
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post #42 of 110
12/28/01 at 11:26am
While I never said I believed him, I did defend his right to post when everyone was calling him a troll.

So I'd like to take this time to humbly apologize to Spiffy...you were right....you were right.
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post #43 of 110
12/28/01 at 11:27am
Sure, he's a troll, but MaDToOl was a troll too and he was cool.

Yes, I think it's lame to lie to fellow members, but it's certainly no reason to ban someone.

[ 12-28-2001: Message edited by: MacAgent ]</p>
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post #44 of 110
12/28/01 at 11:33am
how about he be a man and reveal himself to everyone
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post #45 of 110
12/28/01 at 11:35am
I don't care who he is. Instead of arguing over the previous insider, why don't we hop over to the other G5 thread by the new insider and start a discussion going in there?
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post #46 of 110
12/28/01 at 11:36am
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[quote]Originally posted by MacAgent:
<strong>Sure, he's a troll, but MaDToOl was a troll too and he was cool.

Yes, I think it's lame to lie to fellow members, but it's certainly no reason to ban someone.

</strong><hr></blockquote>

I sometimes register another name to make a point (did so today with kormac75 to tell kormac77 up yours). It is not using another name thats stupid but using it to do stuff like Mastergating. But then again IMPOV he has every right to fill us with lies. Its up to our own judgement to believe it or not. And the best bet is that people like him is lying. Remember only workerbee have ever given us real info and noone is prepared to go his way in the future.
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post #47 of 110
12/28/01 at 11:36am
[quote]Originally posted by MacAgent:
<strong>I don't care who he is. Instead of arguing over the previous insider, why don't we hop over to the other G5 thread by the new insider and start a discussion going in there?</strong><hr></blockquote>

why, because he is a fake too? are people really this blind?
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post #48 of 110
12/28/01 at 11:39am
Did *I* miss something? I don't remember anyone ever saying that he/she was already a user and registered another name.

What if it was a lurker who finally decided to register and play.
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post #49 of 110
12/28/01 at 11:40am
I know it was another user.
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post #50 of 110
12/28/01 at 11:49am
[quote]Originally posted by CosmoNut:
<strong>Did *I* miss something? I don't remember anyone ever saying that he/she was already a user and registered another name.

What if it was a lurker who finally decided to register and play.</strong><hr></blockquote>

It was another member.
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post #51 of 110
12/28/01 at 11:51am
Okay. Groovy.

Well, I know one thing. I've been reassured in my belief that I shouldn't take ANYTHING for certain where the Future Hardware forum is concerned. Now I don't care about this whole Mastergater thing anymore. On to other threads!

[ 12-28-2001: Message edited by: CosmoNut ]</p>
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post #52 of 110
12/28/01 at 11:53am
[quote]Originally posted by applenut:
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why, because he is a fake too? are people really this blind?</strong><hr></blockquote>

The lesson that needs to be learned here is that you guys need to stop believing everything someone posts here. I mean I went to the AI chat yesterday and there were people arguing and defending this fool. Then someone, who knows who, gets on the chat with the name Dorsal and immediately everyone thinks it's the real Dorsal (if there is such a thing).

The lesson to be learned is to take everything that anyone says here with a grain of salt. No one in their right mind who works for Apple would jeopardize their job and the company they work for to come here and dump loads of information to a bunch of people they do not know (except Worker Bee and I am sure that everyone at Apple learned from that).
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post #53 of 110
12/28/01 at 11:53am
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Yeah. Macinto... i mean Mastergateing was another member here.
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post #54 of 110
12/28/01 at 11:56am
[quote]Originally posted by Jonathan:
<strong>Yeah. Macinto... i mean Mastergateing was another member here.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Bingo! <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />
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post #55 of 110
12/28/01 at 11:57am
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[quote]Originally posted by Jonathan:
<strong>Yeah. Macinto... i mean Mastergateing was another member here.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Stick to the oldies here. They would never do such a thing.
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post #56 of 110
12/28/01 at 12:02pm
Yes, there is a little truth train in us all.

Folks who *really* wanted to believe mr. mastergate:
sobelizzard
TCO
discstickers
JRC
jwdawso
myahmac
stimuli
qazII
thegelding
Willoughby
jeromba

Welcome to the AI boards.

Folks who saw the truth train:
NeoMac
pscates (the ultimate skeptic )
DanPCamera (gj)
MacAgent
corvette
Masker (sherlock boy)
apple.otaku
Moogs (again and again and again)
erbium (vehemently denouncing mg)
phygen (holy sarcasm, batman!)
Horned_Frog
Macintosh (with a VENGEANCE)
SpiffyGuyC
Mac Guru

That makes for 11 wannabelievers and 15 skeptics including myself. Everyone else sat on the fence or watched us childishly duke it out.

Just remember the next time some DNA-violating ( ) peabody with poor spelling and netiquette comes a-trollin... you're either for or against the war on stupid rumors.

I'm just glad my ass remains safe and non-eaten.
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post #57 of 110
12/28/01 at 12:07pm
still say its pscates
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post #58 of 110
12/28/01 at 12:11pm
[quote]Originally posted by jutus:
<strong>Yes, there is a little truth train in us all.

Folks who *really* wanted to believe mr. mastergate:
sobelizzard
TCO
discstickers
JRC
jwdawso
myahmac
stimuli
qazII
thegelding
Willoughby
jeromba

</strong><hr></blockquote>

I just went back to the old thread, and didn't you forget SYN? He was all about the wanting to believe.

Nothing against you SYN, but you were all over asking MG for more, yearning -- ACHING to believe he was truthful.
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post #59 of 110
12/28/01 at 12:13pm
Mastergateing = Macintosh???

I don't get it, though on a level it makes sense. I still think Mg is a long time member, he was smart in how he acted dumb and he did his research (to a point). If I'm right, I think justice will be done if his regular name is cancelled and he has to start with a new one, a newbie like me.... he he..
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post #60 of 110
12/28/01 at 12:13pm
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[quote]Originally posted by jutus:
<strong>Just remember the next time some DNA-violating ( ) peabody with poor spelling and netiquette comes a-trollin... you're either for or against the war on stupid rumors.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Is it okay if we only give you moral support or is the minimum a small batalion?

Sorry. I actually don´t care about far out rumours so why should I voice my opinion about them?
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post #61 of 110
12/28/01 at 12:17pm
[quote]Originally posted by applenut:
<strong>still say its pscates</strong><hr></blockquote>

Can I ask why, applenut? I've never done this sort of thing and I certainly haven't started now.

:confused:

I promise you it isn't me. I thought the guy was full of it from the moment I read his first post with all the G4 and G4 iMac prices/specs.

I have always been pscates on these boards, except for a very brief period a year or so ago where I went by Eye126.

But everyone here knows me as pscates. I don't even go into the chat room with anything other than "pscates".

I'm in good standing here, I believe. Got lots of buddies and people here I like. I'm not one to go around causing trouble or stirring stuff up.

As MacAgent said, it's "not (my) style".

Why do you think it's me? Seriously? I've never engaged in this sort of thing.

Moderators, make applenut quit accusing me and give him proof!

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post #62 of 110
12/28/01 at 12:19pm
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Folks who *really* wanted to believe mr. mastergate:
sobelizzard
TCO
discstickers
JRC
jwdawso
myahmac
stimuli
qazII
thegelding
Willoughby
jeromba
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hey, just said i hoped he was right, never threw in my hand with him or anybody here (heck, seems most people here talk about the ibook their parents got them for their birthday...not saying that is a bad thing, but asking mostly teenagers is not a great place to look for apple insider information)...i come here just for the fun of reading the posts and all the guesses and such....plus it helps me more knowing when NOT TO buy as oppossed to when TO buy...almost bought my daughters a flower power iMac early in December to go with the mini dv camcorder i got them for christmas...the rumor sites let me know that something was coming up and that maybe i should wait....so my hoping some of these people with wild guesses are correct isn't the same as taking their word as gossip...oh well, i wouldn't be buying a G5 anyway...just the cheapest mac with a superdrive (be it iMac, tower, newly reissued cube or some freakin' tablet thing)......g

ps..it's been too slow at work today

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post #63 of 110
12/28/01 at 12:24pm
[quote]Originally posted by pscates:
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Moderators, make applenut quit accusing me and give him proof!
</strong><hr></blockquote>

I think applenut contacted Jonathan on AIM so I assume Jonathan told him the truth, but I don't know.
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post #64 of 110
12/28/01 at 12:25pm
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[quote]Originally posted by applenut:
<strong>still say its pscates</strong><hr></blockquote>

Though I would like it to be that right winged yankee cowboy <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" /> I really don´t see him being so stupid. Like most of us he wouldn´t bother do it.

Its a newbie. And a young one:

[quote]I had you all hanging on my every word, pathetic. Unbelievable really. Future Hardware my ass. <hr></blockquote>

In his early teens. Suffers from distorted perception (I had you all ...). Agressive tendencies that he only allows himself to show this way due to a repressive inviroment. But thats only an opinion. As I said let the boy and please don´t blame the liar that others believe him.
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post #65 of 110
12/28/01 at 12:26pm
Applenut, I don't get it. Why does it seem like Pscates to you? Doesn't seem like his style to me at all.
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post #66 of 110
12/28/01 at 12:26pm
[quote]Originally posted by EmAn:
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I think applenut contacted Jonathan on AIM so I assume Jonathan told him the truth, but I don't know.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I don't know what you're talking about.

It was pscates
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post #67 of 110
12/28/01 at 12:27pm
[quote]Sorry. I actually don´t care about far out rumours so why should I voice my opinion about them?<hr></blockquote>

You probably did the right thing. Next time I will try and stay mum.

Try being the key word.
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post #68 of 110
12/28/01 at 12:30pm
[quote]Originally posted by sizzle chest:
<strong>Applenut, I don't get it. Why does it seem like Pscates to you? Doesn't seem like his style to me at all.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Right. It wasn't his style. applenut, what proof do you have defending your thinking that it was pscates?
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post #69 of 110
12/28/01 at 12:30pm
It wasn't pscates. That much is obvious.
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post #70 of 110
12/28/01 at 12:31pm
pscates, I think applenut is probably just messing with you and knows it's not you.

If indeed it was Macintosh who was behind Mastergateing, I wouldn't go too hard on him. Like I mentioned earlier, no one can make you look like an "ass" without your permission.

If you were sucked in by Mastergateing's scheme, who's fault is that, really?

I agree that there's a certian community that's been established here at AI, but we also probably need "reality checks" every now and then to keep us honest, and to remind us not to take things in Future Hardware too seriously.

I refer to my signature. Good day.

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post #71 of 110
12/28/01 at 12:33pm
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[quote]Originally posted by applenut:
<strong>

I don't know what you're talking about.

It was pscates</strong><hr></blockquote>

Is this the beginning of one of the famous battles between Applenut and another forum member? I still remember the battle between you and Fran and it was only about the new PB. Intertaining stuff.

"AppleKid: The battle continues. And this time its personal"

Sorry couldn´t resist

Could you at least tell us why you think its him?
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post #72 of 110
12/28/01 at 12:39pm
[quote]Originally posted by Anders:
<strong>

Is this the beginning of one of the famous battles between Applenut and another forum member? I still remember the battle between you and Fran and it was only about the new PB. Intertaining stuff.

"AppleKid: The battle continues. And this time its personal"

Sorry couldn´t resist

Could you at least tell us why you think its him?</strong><hr></blockquote>


originally I did think it was him. I can't even remember why but he popped into my head when I first read the thread. I know who it was. Not him, just was having a little fun.

as for that peacemaker dude. he's really pissing me off, is he macintosh too?
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post #73 of 110
12/28/01 at 12:39pm
Com'n Mods/Admin. Tell us who it was. I want Blood!!!

Seriously though, covering up for someone like this sets precidents. Other long time members see that you covering for Mastergator may be encouraged by your inaction.

If the coward isn't man enough to standup and admit what he did, then you should expose him for the liar/coward that he is!
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post #74 of 110
12/28/01 at 12:41pm
He's a coward now too?
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post #75 of 110
12/28/01 at 12:46pm
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[quote]Originally posted by MacAgent:
<strong>He's a coward now too? </strong><hr></blockquote>

We are just going through the "how to handle people you don´t agree with" handbook. Soon he will become a terrorist and his civil rights will be taken away. And MacAgent: Are you or are you not with us? Hmm?
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post #76 of 110
12/28/01 at 12:57pm
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Applenut's just joking around. Read the thread, you'll find who it is.
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post #77 of 110
12/28/01 at 12:58pm
[quote]Originally posted by X704:
<strong>Com'n Mods/Admin. Tell us who it was. I want Blood!!!
[/b]</strong><hr></blockquote>

Jonatha pretty much gave it away... look at one of his posts from before.
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post #78 of 110
12/28/01 at 1:03pm
[quote]Originally posted by MacAgent:
<strong>He's a coward now too? </strong><hr></blockquote>

He's a coward because he won't stand up & risk his reputation being permanently tarnished. How seriously would you take a poster if you found out he was Mastergator? I would very critical of anything that he ever said.

So yes, he's a coward in my book. Perhpas he's your personal hero, good for you. Personally, I don't like being lied to (not that I believed him). Please forgo the usual 'then this may not be the place for you' because it's full of looser who have nothing better to do them make crap up.

There, now he's coward, looser & terrorist!
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post #79 of 110
12/28/01 at 1:06pm
Whew...I got through the accusations and character assassination with my virtue intact.

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post #80 of 110
12/28/01 at 1:15pm
[quote]Originally posted by EmAn:
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Jonatha pretty much gave it away... look at one of his posts from before.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Oh, I see now. Thanks.
" Macinto... i mean Mastergateing"

"Macinto", grow up please.
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