Originally posted by Kali
I don't agree with this. I can make any equation with a single palette, customised in Expressionist. Most of the time, I use macros with the keyboard, but all commands are on my customised palette.
Note what I highlighted.
Now, stop and consider that LaTeX is an extensible system with packages and styles (and fonts) floating in from god knows where. It is, if not impossible, highly impractical, for an app designer to let the user customize for *ANY* potential thing to come down the pipe in a graphical format. The Macros in TeXShop take over for this in most ways.
All symbols and math expressions are there and it's not so clumsy. So it is clear to me that it's possible to implement something like this in , say, TeXShop. Its palette can (and should) be beefed up, with maybe few pop-up.
It could be, but do you really mean to say *ALL* symbols? No, just the ones that Expressionist already defines. And that may be great for most folks, but mathematicians are a wily bunch, and you don't want to see what some physicists dream up for notation...
Expressionist plain won't work for them. LaTeX will, in textual form. A GUI panel won't. No app designer can predict every possible LaTeX style or package that will come down the pipe, the best they can do is provide an extensible user-customizable method for macros, either to be clicked on in a menu or in a button palette. A glyph palette is quite a bit harder to integrate given LaTeX's odd font support. (Not impossible, but more than slightly difficult.) TeXShop's palette could certainly be beefed up, but as we all know, too much beef drives you mad.
Another example : in iTeXMac, there is a right drawer which shows many symbols. More than in TeXShop. It's far away from the perfection, but it's a little bit better than TeXShop. Especially for the special symbols I use from times to times, but not often enough to remember all the time.
Yup, I have a little document from here
that I keep either on screen or as a print out that's my rare symbols cheat sheet.
Maybe I should post a pict of my Expressionist palette here, but I'm not sure to know how to do it. I'm not at my own computer right now anyway.
Cmd-shift-4 will get you a crosshairs cursor. Select the window from corner to corner, and a PDF of that window image will be placed as a file on your Desktop. Upload it to a web server somewhere (.Mac, etc), and provide an Image link in a post here. Simple, no?
Edit: Just to nail this point home a bit more, here's a document that lists *most* known symbols in LaTeX.
It's 2.4MB in size. The math section *alone* is 28 pages of symbols.
Do you *really* want to try and use a palette suite with all that??
TeXShop could do more, but what you like someone else has no need for, and vice versa. I really do think that they got the basics well and the rest is handled better by the Macros.