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post #241 of 411
1/28/04 at 7:17pm
I'm going out on a limb here, updates tomorrow.
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post #242 of 411
1/28/04 at 7:26pm
i wish they would announce them tomorrow, but i just don't think so.... i have a feeling it won't be until the end of next month. the x-serve's won't be shipping until then too, makes sense to me.
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post #243 of 411
1/28/04 at 7:33pm
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i wish they would announce them tomorrow, but i just don't think so.... i have a feeling it won't be until the end of next month. the x-serve's won't be shipping until then too, makes sense to me.

Regardless of Xserve shipping times, Va Tech wants those not just for speed purposes, but mostly space and heating issues. The space and heating issues will be remedied simply by the footprint of the Xserves compared to their 3x larger brothers. I dont see how a Powermac introduction tomorrow or anytime would have any adverse implications in terms of the Va Tech Xserve deal.
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post #244 of 411
1/28/04 at 8:09pm
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I'm going out on a limb here, updates tomorrow.

ok ill trust u on that but what tomarrow
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post #245 of 411
1/28/04 at 8:10pm
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ok ill trust u on that but what tomarrow

1/29/04
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post #246 of 411
1/28/04 at 9:32pm
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Regardless of Xserve shipping times, Va Tech wants those not just for speed purposes, but mostly space and heating issues. The space and heating issues will be remedied simply by the footprint of the Xserves compared to their 3x larger brothers. I dont see how a Powermac introduction tomorrow or anytime would have any adverse implications in terms of the Va Tech Xserve deal.


easy homeboy...
the x-serve's shipping status has nothing to do with VA tech. It's more based on the avail. of the 90nm G5's if you ask me. wouldn't that be a better reason for the G5 towers to wait concidering how much hype the whole mini-pepsi stuff is getting? why intro yet another updated piece of hardware that they won't be able to ship anyway?
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post #247 of 411
1/28/04 at 10:00pm
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why intro yet another updated piece of hardware that they won't be able to ship anyway?

is there a law against shipping more than one product at a time?
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post #248 of 411
1/29/04 at 1:30am
The most resonable component to hold back G5 servers shipping would be the CPU. And with servers shipping in far lower volumes than towers the production of G5 above 2 Ghz has to ramp up even more before the announcement of G5 towers.

The first G5s could be anounced well ahead of shipping as the G4 was EOL and not selling well anyhow. Now Apple want both to clear out the channel of current G5s and also have a good supply of the speed bumped ones. So be
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post #249 of 411
1/29/04 at 5:14am
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Originally posted by DrBoar

Now Apple want both to clear out the channel of current G5s and also have a good supply of the speed bumped ones. So be
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Given the recent rather lacklustre numbers of G5's sold, we might be waiting longer than hoped.
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post #250 of 411
1/29/04 at 6:07am
I work for an Apple reseller in the Netherlands and just spoke with a manager from our local distributor. According to him there will be NO Desktop updates in the near future!!!!! No eMac, Imac or Powermac.
Just while I was in the market for a new G5.

[edit]typo[/edit]
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post #251 of 411
1/29/04 at 6:20am
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I work for an Apple reseler in the Netherlands and just spoke with a manager from our local distributor. According to him there will be NO Desktop updates in the near future!!!!! No eMac, Imac or Powermac.
Just while I was in the market for a new G5.

[edit]typo[/edit]

....but then again, he would say that, wouldn't he?

Also, the distributors don't actually know anymore than we do. I wouldn't go out and buy just yet cause I have this strange gut feeling.......\
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post #252 of 411
1/29/04 at 6:32am
Don't ask him if he knows what's coming out. Ask him what his inventory levels are and backorders. When we see the quantities dropping... and BTW ask him about the iMacs too

My guess: low-key speed-bump announcement in late Feb., shipping in March. G5 iMacs and Powerbooks in October. \
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post #253 of 411
1/29/04 at 6:46am
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Don't ask him if he knows what's coming out. Ask him what his inventory levels are and backorders. When we see the quantities dropping... and BTW ask him about the iMacs too

Well, thats just it. Stock is high here. Everything (except iPod mini) is in stock in large volumes. eMac stock was very low in the first weeks of the year, but now there are lots and lots to order.
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post #254 of 411
1/29/04 at 8:43am
I see this as being a pretty slow year, computer wise.

Will see some minor G5 PM bumps.

MAYBE G5 PB's by years end, probably more like January next year.

Apple seems satisfied with the iMac and eMac so those will stay with the lethargic G4 for this year.

Minor G4 bumps on the iMac.

Its all about the iPod at Apple now.

Should change the name to Apple Music if they were allowed too. \
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post #255 of 411
1/29/04 at 8:54am
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I see this as being a pretty slow year, computer wise.

Will see some minor G5 PM bumps.

MAYBE G5 PB's by years end, probably more like January next year.

Apple seems satisfied with the iMac and eMac so those will stay with the lethargic G4 for this year.

Minor G4 bumps on the iMac.

Its all about the iPod at Apple now.

Should change the name to Apple Music if they were allowed too. \

Um... NO. Apple has the processor it has wanted for 3-4 years now. Hardware is going G5, no matter what, well within the year. All about the iPod? The sales numbers for the G5 don't support that. They support G5s with iPods attached to them.

Yes...we are all a little "over-music"ed right now... with MiniPod and ITMS and GB and all... but hang loose, We are going to see some good stuff from Ive this year. I Promise.
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post #256 of 411
1/29/04 at 8:59am
Im not predicting anything, but something just occurred to me re: the Pepsi promotion.

What better time to introduce new products then when you have maybe 20 million (the rate of redemption of coupons and rebates is surprisingly low) new pairs of eyes visiting your web site.

The next few weeks may be a great time to intro multiple new products as all of those virgin redeemers go to the Apple web site to download iTunes. Hey, while youre here, check out the new

Id certainly think about trying to sell folks something other than iPods. Even if only 20% of the caps were redeemed by newbies (it could be higher) and only 1.0% of those people bought something other than an iPod, thats 200,000 new Mac users.
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post #257 of 411
1/29/04 at 9:07am
This is driving me insane.

I really need to get a new computer, and I would like it to be an iMac so that I don't need to purchase a seperate monitor (currently living off a powerbook).

From what i've been reading in all thr forums, we don't even have a "best guess" to go on. I think I have decided to set a date of Feb. 3rd on when to purchase a system.

The main reason I am holding out for the G5 in the iMacs, is because i am worried that Apple will drop G4 support before I am ready to upgrade again.

What are the thoughts on that? How long do you think apple will continue to support the current machines they are selling? I don't need the power of the G5 for my home machine, but I do need the next purchase to last 2 to 3 years (if not longer).
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post #258 of 411
1/29/04 at 9:12am
Given that Apple still supports G3s, and the truly brave can bootstrap OS X on a 604e, I'm not worried about the G4 being unsupported.

For one thing, to an application a G4 looks a lot like a G5. It's just not as fast. The G3, on the other hand, is missing about 162 instructions relative to the G4 (i.e., AltiVec). So it's easier to support a G4 after the transition to G5 than it is to support the G3 after the transition to G4, and Apple managed to support the G3...

Go ahead and get the iMac.
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post #259 of 411
1/29/04 at 9:16am
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Originally posted by neumac
Im not predicting anything, but something just occurred to me re: the Pepsi promotion.

What better time to introduce new products then when you have maybe 20 million (the rate of redemption of coupons and rebates is surprisingly low) new pairs of eyes visiting your web site.

The next few weeks may be a great time to intro multiple new products as all of those virgin redeemers go to the Apple web site to download iTunes. Hey, while youre here, check out the new

Id certainly think about trying to sell folks something other than iPods. Even if only 20% of the caps were redeemed by newbies (it could be higher) and only 1.0% of those people bought something other than an iPod, thats 200,000 new Mac users.

That's a smart post!

If Apple's not doing that maybe you should call them up and give them a business 101 course seeing how they've had rather bad business tactics the past 20 years.
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post #260 of 411
1/29/04 at 9:22am
I think Apple needs to associate its other products, and note that "you can test-drive an iPod at your local Applestore."

If they let people know that they could go to an Applestore, people would see the other products (and Mac OS X)
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post #261 of 411
1/29/04 at 9:58am
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I think Apple needs to associate its other products, and note that "you can test-drive an iPod at your local Applestore."

If they let people know that they could go to an Applestore, people would see the other products (and Mac OS X)

You and neumac have some great ideas. I wouldn't doubt it if Apple did start announcing products, right after the superbowl. Those of us ready to buy are waiting, but attracting more users at some point must be part of the Apple agenda. I just hope they get a Move on. I don't feel like waiting until WWDC to get a Dual 3GHz PowerMac.
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post #262 of 411
1/29/04 at 10:13am
Hey, tell me if I'm wrong but... listen, could that be the sound of peoples hopes being built up (again) only to have them dashed come the following Tuesday? Yes... I believe it is...

Sorry I had to say it...

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post #263 of 411
1/29/04 at 10:21am
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i'm banking on feb. 3.
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post #264 of 411
1/29/04 at 11:54am
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Hey, tell me if I'm wrong but... listen, could that be the sound of peoples hopes being built up (again) only to have them dashed come the following Tuesday? Yes... I believe it is...

Sorry I had to say it...

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Yep... that's what it is. I thought it sounded more like a rabid wombat munching on corn nuts. Let's just hope that if we go past mid feb, we will see 3 GHZ. <daydreaming>

Steve said "WITHIN" a year. I know he has already seen the 3+ Ghz... Message to SJ: We want em. I'll volunteer in Fishkill or the RAM factory in Malaysia... just tell me where to go...
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post #265 of 411
1/29/04 at 11:57am
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I just hope they get a Move on. I don't feel like waiting until WWDC to get a Dual 3GHz PowerMac.

Yea... the iPod/miniPod has our "groove on" - now we need a move on for RevB G5s.

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post #266 of 411
1/29/04 at 12:06pm
Disclaimer:

The above idea was posited based upon absolutely no evidence whatsoever. Any hopes raised and subsequently dashed are the sole responsibility of the hopee and not of this poster, Appleinsider Future Hardware, or its moderators.
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post #267 of 411
1/29/04 at 12:23pm
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Yet, it is a tantalizing and sensible though. Here's hoping.
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post #268 of 411
1/29/04 at 12:57pm
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1/29/04

no i meant what will b out tomarrow(which is now today)
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post #269 of 411
1/29/04 at 2:08pm
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Wanna bet?
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post #270 of 411
1/29/04 at 2:23pm
yone got a new date for the release haha you bullshitters
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post #271 of 411
1/29/04 at 2:24pm
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yone got a new date for the release haha you bullshitters

is that too profane for AI? i'm dead serious i dont want to be in trouble or waht ever so just let me know
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post #272 of 411
1/29/04 at 2:32pm
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well just go in and edit it. (click 'edit'). i dont think anybody cares though.
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post #273 of 411
1/29/04 at 2:33pm
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well just go in and edit it. (click 'edit'). i dont think anybody cares though.

i know i can edit but i didn't want to if i didn't have too.8)
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post #274 of 411
1/29/04 at 3:03pm
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Wanna bet?

Ok, tomorrow

In all seriousness, SOON!
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post #275 of 411
1/29/04 at 3:52pm
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Ok, tomorrow

In all seriousness, SOON!

whats your source?
or are you throwing darts in the dark
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post #276 of 411
1/29/04 at 3:57pm
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whats your source?
or are you throwing darts in the dark

I wouldnt consider what I say to be throwing darts in the dark, I am as informed or more so than most normal Mac users. I read the forums thoroughly each day, and draw my own conclusions based on assumption, history, and general consensus. Actually, that is practically what all rumor sites do, whenever they post "inside info" and claim it is so.

In any case, Powermac updates will be done in probably 3 weeks or less.
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post #277 of 411
1/29/04 at 4:01pm
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....if it's about money i don't consider a opteron or xeon workstation better bang for $ than a G5......

Interestingly, Pixar does.

Or did it buy that Xeon farm for some other reason?
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post #278 of 411
1/29/04 at 4:02pm
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I wouldnt consider what I say to be throwing darts in the dark, I am as informed or more so than most normal Mac users. I read the forums thoroughly each day, and draw my own conclusions based on assumption, history, and general consensus. Actually, that is practically what all rumor sites do, whenever they post "inside info" and claim it is so.

In any case, Powermac updates will be done in probably 3 weeks or less.

eh i guess.. it would be fun for a nice afordable G5 in the world any chance of that coming soon...even if it is iMac or eMac
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post #279 of 411
1/29/04 at 4:10pm
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eh i guess.. it would be fun for a nice afordable G5 in the world any chance of that coming soon...even if it is iMac or eMac

indeed!!!
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post #280 of 411
1/29/04 at 4:14pm
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eh i guess.. it would be fun for a nice afordable G5 in the world any chance of that coming soon...even if it is iMac or eMac

I would say so, the introductory period of the G5 is over. Apple should have new PM's out soon that trounce the current low end Powermac, which would free up those formerly low end G5's at 1.6 to be put into iMacs across the board....plus, I would think that in itself would breathe tremendously new life into the iMac line.

As for the Powerbook? Even if you didnt ask for my opinion, here it is. Macworld Tokyo in March, that demographic LOVES gadgets and laptops...expect an iPod type deal there possibly too!

I sometimes wonder if the iPod mini's werent pre released because of anniversary hype, when infact it would have made more business sense to wait til they were available to ship and announce them infront of a crowd that would clammer for them.\
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