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Poll Results: What best describes you?

 
  • 30% (31)
    Agnostic.
  • 31% (32)
    Atheist.
  • 38% (40)
    Religious, or Upholds Some Beliefs.
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post #1 of 159
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What religious convictions do you hold an why or why not.

Firstly, this is a controversial topic, so please don't post abuse or 'superiorise' what you believe in over others'.

Okay I am basically agnostic and/or atheist. Why you say? Well, there are numerous reasons, but mainly due to the fact that no good reason has been presented to me to believe in God. To me it is easier to believe in science and facts to explain the universe we live in.

I believe something is out there to explain the existence of the universe, but religion will not explain it for me. It seems to raise many more questions, and upholds too many contradictions.

So, your turn. m.
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post #2 of 159
I am an unbeliever.

For those who are unsure of the difference between being an atheist or being agnostic:

Atheist = someone who denies the existence of god
Agnostic = one who believes that it is impossible to know whether there is a god

ps hope I'm right when my time comes!!!
post #3 of 159
Should also note that I do have some beliefs.

Treat people how you yourself would like to treated. Got nothing to do with the 'big fella upstairs', but still a belief I suppose.
post #4 of 159
statistically (in census) .. with the "not necessary, if yoyu answer tick only one" >> catholic, buddhist AND atheist. and no problem with that.

according to http://www.selectsmart.com/RELIGION the religions that think like me (in percentages):

Mahayana Buddhism (100%)
Neo-Pagan (84%)
Theravada Buddhism (83%)
New Age (82%)
Unitarian Universalism (77%)
Taoism (76%)
Hinduism (74%)
New Thought (71%)
Liberal Quakers (64%)
Scientology (62%)
Jainism (56%)
Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (55%)
Sikhism (49%)
Mainline - Liberal Christian Protestants (47%)
Secular Humanism (44%)
Orthodox Quaker (42%)
Reform Judaism (37%)
Bahá'Ã* Faith (24%)
Non-theist (24%)
Orthodox Judaism (16%)
Seventh Day Adventist (14%)_
Mainline - Conservative Christian Protestant (12%)
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (10%)
Jehovah's Witness (10%)
Islam (6%)
Eastern Orthodox (1%)
Roman Catholic (1%)

... when answering to the questions as "makes sense" to me.
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post #5 of 159
On line tests are fun - though interpretation is important. This one was a little muddled with 'importance to me' option as well.

My results:

# 1. Secular Humanism (100%)
# 2. \tUnitarian Universalism (96%)
# 3. \tTheravada Buddhism (85%)
# 4. \tLiberal Quakers (78%)
# 5. \tNon-theist (77%)
# 6. \tNeo-Pagan (69%)
# 7. \tLiberal Christian Protestants (62%)
# 8. \tMahayana Buddhism (57%)
# 9. \tNew Age (52%)
# 10. \tTaoism (49%)
# 11. \tReform Judaism (44%)
# 12. \tNew Thought (40%)
# 13. \tJainism (36%)
# 14. \tOrthodox Quaker (36%)
# 15. \tSikhism (36%)
# 16. \tChristian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (33%)
# 17. \tScientology (33%)
# 18. \tBahá'Ã* Faith (29%)
# 19. \tHinduism (29%)
# 20. \tConservative Christian Protestant (24%)
# 21. \tChurch of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (22%)
# 22. \tEastern Orthodox (22%)
# 23. \tIslam (22%)
# 24. \tOrthodox Judaism (22%)
# 25. \tRoman Catholic (22%)
# 26. \tJehovah's Witness (14%)
# 27. \tSeventh Day Adventist (11%)
post #6 of 159
i am a christian
I think I think...therefore, I think I am.

We get to think of life as an inexhaustible well. Yet everything happens only a certain number of times, and a very small number, really. How many more...
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post #7 of 159
i belong to the church of "I Don't Care"

i don't care if there is a god or not...it wouldn't change a thing for me...i would still treat people the same, would still raise my children the same...would still be exactly the same person and still do everything the same way i do now each and every day...


not that i judge religious people...if religion makes you stronger, then god bless...i just ask that you not judge me (at least to my face) for feeling just dandy about myself the way i am


if, when i die, there is a god and he/she/it wants to judge me...hey, i have no probs with that...that would be his/her/its deally...no biggie...i've been pretty happy with the hand i've been dealt...i don't expect that mind set to change after i've taken my final breath

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oh, and i punched atheist up top...probably more an agnostic and that fits with the "i don't care" aspect...but agnostic seems so wishy-washy...atheist sounds so much more sure and confident...plus it pisses more people off when you say you're an atheist



ps.. i would love if everyone got what they believed in: if you didn't believe in an afterlife, you died and that was it; you believed in reincarnation, you died and were reborn; you believed in heaven and hell, you died and either went to heaven or hell...then everyone would be happy (well, except those people in hell)
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post #8 of 159
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Originally posted by thegelding
i belong to the church of "I Don't Care"

i don't care if there is a god or not...if religion makes you stronger, then god bless

I think I think...therefore, I think I am.

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post #9 of 159
I took that test trying to match my answers at 15 years old:

# 1. \tChurch of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (100%)
# 2. \tBahá'Ã* Faith (98%)
# 3. \tJehovah's Witness (96%)
# 4. \tOrthodox Judaism (89%)
# 5. \tSikhism (78%)
# 6. \tIslam (75%)
# 7. \tHinduism (75%)
# 8. \tMainline - Conservative Christian Protestant (74%)
# 9. \tJainism (73%)
# 10. \tMainline - Liberal Christian Protestants (72%)
# 11. \tSeventh Day Adventist (62%)
# 12. \tEastern Orthodox (61%)
# 13. \tRoman Catholic (61%)
# 14. \tLiberal Quakers (59%)
# 15. \tTheravada Buddhism (59%)
# 16. \tMahayana Buddhism (58%)
# 17. \tReform Judaism (56%)
# 18. \tOrthodox Quaker (55%)
# 19. \tChristian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (51%)
# 20. \tUnitarian Universalism (51%)
# 21. \tNew Thought (33%)
# 22. \tNeo-Pagan (29%)
# 23. \tScientology (28%)
# 24. \tNew Age (27%)
# 25. \tTaoism (27%)
# 26. \tNon-theist (14%)
# 27. \tSecular Humanism (13%)

I think that is perfect for myself at 15, at the peak of my being a good LDS boy.

Now, for myself in the present (22).

# 1. \tUnitarian Universalism (100%)
# 2. \tLiberal Quakers (92%)
# 3. \tMainline - Liberal Christian Protestants (82%)
# 4. \tMahayana Buddhism (82%)
# 5. \tNew Age (80%)
# 6. \tHinduism (80%)
# 7. \tNeo-Pagan (80%)
# 8. \tTheravada Buddhism (80%)
# 9. \tNew Thought (78%)
# 10. \tTaoism (74%)
# 11. \tJainism (72%)
# 12. \tScientology (72%)
# 13. \tChristian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (71%)
# 14. \tSecular Humanism (71%)
# 15. \tBahá'Ã* Faith (69%)
# 16. \tReform Judaism (67%)
# 17. \tOrthodox Quaker (65%)
# 18. \tSikhism (55%)
# 19. \tNon-theist (50%)
# 20. \tOrthodox Judaism (47%)
# 21. \tSeventh Day Adventist (42%)
# 22. \tIslam (41%)
# 23. \tMainline - Conservative Christian Protestant (32%)
# 24. \tChurch of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (30%)
# 25. \tEastern Orthodox (26%)
# 26. \tRoman Catholic (26%)
# 27. \tJehovah's Witness (20%)


I'm surprised LDS is that low, but it's just an Internet poll.
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post #10 of 159
I embrace uncertainty. I don't know all the answers and I'm not afraid to accept that some questions will never be answered in my lifetime. I will, however, do my best to try to find the answers to these questions. That is why I am going back to school after I complete my MBA and MHRM to study astrophysics.

 

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post #11 of 159
Here are the results from that silly test:

Your Results:


1._
Secular Humanism (100%)
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Unitarian Universalism (91%)
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Non-theist (87%)
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Theravada Buddhism (73%)
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Liberal Quakers (66%)
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Neo-Pagan (53%)
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Mainline - Liberal Christian Protestants (51%)
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New Age (36%)
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Taoism (36%)
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Reform Judaism (34%)
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Mahayana Buddhism (30%)
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New Thought (21%)
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Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (17%)
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Orthodox Quaker (17%)
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Sikhism (17%)
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Mainline - Conservative Christian Protestant (13%)
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Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (12%)
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Scientology (12%)
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19._
Bahá'Ã* Faith (8%)
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Eastern Orthodox (8%)
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21._
Hinduism (8%)
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Islam (8%)
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Jainism (8%)
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Orthodox Judaism (8%)
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Roman Catholic (8%)
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26._
Seventh Day Adventist (8%)
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27._
Jehovah's Witness (0%)
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Your Results:


1._
Secular Humanism (100%)
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Unitarian Universalism (90%)
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3._
Liberal Quakers (79%)
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Neo-Pagan (69%)
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Non-theist (68%)
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Mainline - Liberal Christian Protestants (65%)
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Theravada Buddhism (65%)
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8._
New Age (58%)
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9._
Taoism (49%)
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Orthodox Quaker (46%)
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11._
Reform Judaism (46%)
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Mahayana Buddhism (45%)
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Bahá'Ã* Faith (32%)
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14._
Sikhism (32%)
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15._
New Thought (31%)
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Jainism (30%)
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Scientology (27%)
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Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (25%)
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Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (24%)
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Seventh Day Adventist (20%)
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21._
Hinduism (18%)
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22._
Mainline - Conservative Christian Protestant (18%)
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Eastern Orthodox (16%)
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24._
Islam (16%)
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Orthodox Judaism (16%)
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Roman Catholic (16%)
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27._
Jehovah's Witness (13%)
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post #13 of 159
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Originally posted by mattjohndrow

sorry if that was confusing...if religion makes "you" stronger ("you" would be mattjohndrow in this case), then god bless (as in, i am happy for you and support your chose of being religious)...
religion wouldn't make me any stronger, as i feel mighty strong right now as i am

i even support any religion you chose, though i am slightly unsure of any religion that says, "think like i do or burn in hell"...i don't think any god would be overly petty...much too human of an emotion...god would be better, stronger, kinder, smarter than that


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My results, as a raised-Catholic 22 year-old who thinks that most people take religion far too seriously:

1._Mainline - Liberal Christian Protestants (100%)
2._Orthodox Quaker (98%)
3._Liberal Quakers (85%)
4._Eastern Orthodox (82%)
5._Mainline - Conservative Christian Protestant (82%)
6._Roman Catholic (82%)
7._Seventh Day Adventist (78%)
8._Unitarian Universalism (73%)
9. Hinduism (68%)
10._Bahá'Ã* Faith (58%)
11._Sikhism (58%)
12._Orthodox Judaism (55%)
13._Theravada Buddhism (53%)
14._Mahayana Buddhism (53%)
15._Reform Judaism (53%)
16._Jainism (52%)
17._Islam (51%)
18. Neo-Pagan (44%)
19._Secular Humanism (42%)
20._Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (38%)
21._New Thought (38%)
22._New Age (37%)
23._Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (36%)
24._Scientology (32%)
25._Non-theist (31%)
26._Taoism (31%)
27._Jehovah's Witness (31%)
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post #16 of 159
Your Results:

1._
Secular Humanism (100%)

2._
Unitarian Universalism (99%)

3._
Theravada Buddhism (82%)

4._
Liberal Quakers (81%)

5._
Neo-Pagan (73%)

6._
Non-theist (68%)

7._
Mainline - Liberal Christian Protestants (61%)

8._
Taoism (57%)

9._
New Age (56%)

10._
Mahayana Buddhism (53%)

11._
Reform Judaism (46%)

12._
Sikhism (42%)

13._
Jainism (41%)

14._
Orthodox Quaker (39%)

15._
Bahá'Ã* Faith (34%)
16._
Hinduism (31%)

17._
New Thought (31%)

18._
Scientology (27%)

19._
Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (25%)

20._
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (22%)

21._
Seventh Day Adventist (18%)

22._
Mainline - Conservative Christian Protestant (17%)

23._
Orthodox Judaism (15%)

24._
Eastern Orthodox (14%)

25._
Islam (14%)

26._
Roman Catholic (14%)

27._
Jehovah's Witness (11%)


yea ha....i am 73% pagen

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post #17 of 159
I don't have my exact results from that online test, but it did peg my religion exactly. I'm Neo-Pagan - Wiccan to be exact. My parents are Buddhist and Aethiest, and when I was growing up they basically told me to "do whatever you want" with regards to religion. Yay for that choice! They were very brave to be able to say that to their child, and I think it was the best spiritual choice they ever made for me.

In my opinion, there is no one "right" religion, and no hell. Supreme evil beings are just a bit too nasty for me, so I don't believe in them either. I don't believe that anyone needs to be "saved" because we all end up exactly where we want after death regardless of your beliefs (unless you were really, REALLY bad in life). In short, I think you can find your own interpretation of divinity no matter what religion you follow, from Roman Catholic to Aethiest to Pagan.
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post #18 of 159
1. Mainline - Liberal Christian Protestants (100%)

2. Orthodox Quaker (84%)

3. Liberal Quakers (80%)

4. Seventh Day Adventist (72%)

5. Unitarian Universalism (71%)

6. Mainline - Conservative Christian Protestant (69%)

7. Reform Judaism (63%)

8. Eastern Orthodox (59%)

9. Roman Catholic (59%)

10. Bahá'Ã* Faith (54%)

11. New Age (46%)

12. Neo-Pagan (44%)

13. Orthodox Judaism (41%)

14. Theravada Buddhism (41%)

15. Sikhism (40%)

16. Mahayana Buddhism (40%)

17. Secular Humanism (39%)

18. Hinduism (38%)

19. Taoism (37%)

20. Islam (36%)

21. New Thought (36%)

22. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (35%)

23. Jainism (33%)

24. Non-theist (28%)

25. Scientology (28%)

26. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (21%)

27. Jehovah's Witness (17%)

Personally, I believe in God but I don't think that it's right to force your views on others. It's one thing to share them, but you have to be able to accept that the other person simply may not believe them or want to convert on the spot. For me, Christianity is a personal relationship and you best share that message through your actions and life.
post #19 of 159
I'm a Christian, of the hardcore variety. God is awesome, I would die before I renounced my belief in my Savior, Jesus Christ.

Edit:
For what it's worth my test showed that I matched best with "Conservative Christian Protestant". The test was right on. Although I don't really like the test, but thats another story for another thread.
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post #20 of 159
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally posted by DMBand0026
For what it's worth my test showed that I matched best with "Conservative Christian Protestant". The test was right on. Although I don't really like the test, but thats another story for another thread.

Yes. Anything to do with that test does not belong here. It ruins the discussion as it has done already. Let's talk about it here instead. m.
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Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally posted by Merovingian
Yes. Anything to do with that test doesn't really belong here. It ruins the discussion as it has done already. Let's talk about it here instead. m.
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post #22 of 159
1. New Age 100%
2. Unitarian Universalism 100%
3. Neo-Pagan 98%
4. New Thought 97%
5. Bahai Faith 93%
6. Mahayana Buddhism 91%

7. Liberal Quakers 84%
8. Reform Judaism 82%
9. Taoism 80%
10. Christian Science 78%
11. Hinduism 72%
12. Scientology 72%
13. Orthodox Judaism 71%
14. Sikhism 71%
15. Theravada Buddhism 69%
16. Mainline Liberal Christian Protestants 67%
17. Mormons 67%
18. Islam 60%
19. Jainism 46%
20. Orthodox Quaker 43%
21. Secular Humanism 43%
22. Jehovah's Witness 38%
23. Non-Theist 38%
24. Eastern Orthodox 32%
25. Mainline Conservative Christian Protestant 32%
26. Roman Catholic 32%
27. Seventh Day Adventist 21%


I was raised in a religion, and went to church every Sunday until I was a junior at university. In one of my honors seminars that year, we happened to read basic beliefs of the 'fathers of the church', i.e. that man was born with the stain of sin and was therefore intrinsically evil.

No WAY did I believe people were intrinsically evil!! I basically chucked my religion that day, and forever after.

In EVERY personal contact I had with it, the church I was raised in did NOTHING but put obstacles in my path, no matter what I was trying to do (that involved the church).

I will never deal with any religion EVER again. I have no need for religion. I am a good person just as I am. I NEVER do anything to harm another. I ALWAYS try to be a positive influence in others' lives. I expend great effort when I think something I can do will increase another's happiness. I am a VERY loving person, and look for the best (and find it) in everyone. It is not difficult for me to be this way. It is easy, because it's the way I WANT to be. Does 'being good' have to be difficult? Must it be something we suffer in order to do? I don't think so. Am I pompous and self-righteous? Maybe. Oh well!!!

Religions throughout history have had negative effects on SO many peoples' lives. I have no use for religion for myself, and have no desire to inflict on myself an unnecessary system of rules. I believe there is some kind of Source of life; but certainly not one that pays attention to any of us, or "listens" and responds to prayers. The more I have learned about the marvels of science, the more I have had to believe in some kind of Source of life. PERHAPS an entity who IS Truth; who IS Goodness; who IS eternal.

But I choose to be a good person because it feels right to me, enables me to live with myself, and provides the lightness of heart that allows me to be happy and free from guilt. What else do I need, I ask you????? I am certain this all sounds pompous and self-righteous. Oh well!!!

If an organized group helps those in need, then I am all for their efforts. And I DON'T mean providing false papers to illegal aliens (which some church groups do!!!!)

Having said all that!!!!!.....I wish to mention something I think is quite interesting. A block from my house is a corner lot. It was purchased some years ago by a Unitarian Universalist church group. It's not a particularly large lot, and I couldn't imagine how a church would fit there. No room for parking.

Six months ago, the church members themselves began building their church with their own hands!!!! Each weekend, a little more was built. Two fairly small rectangular buildings, LOTS of landscaping. I drive past it twice a day going and returning from work, so I have watched every step. Once it was vandalized with grafitti. But today (Sunday) was I think the first day they held services.

I think building your own little church, in this day and age, is kinda cool. The people I would see out there working were often white-haired retired people. When the plants and trees are mature, that corner will be a haven of loveliness. I fully intend to check out that little church one of these days, since I scored 100% on Unitarian Universalist!!! Maybe it's a sign????? (almost like getting hit in the head with a 2x4 - a new little church, on which I scored 100%, ONE BLOCK from my house....hmmmmm)

Gee willikers! Sorry this is SO LONG!!!!
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post #23 of 159
Adults who found the selector test too simple might be interested to try the
Theological Engineering Exam


Once upon a time, I wanted to list as Frisbeeterian
- when you die, your soul goes up on the roof and you can't get it down

The last UK Census actually had significant numbers in the write-in section who listed "Jedi"

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/census2.../rank/jedi.asp
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Originally posted by curiousuburb
Adults who found the selector test too simple might be interested to try the
Theological Engineering Exam


Once upon a time, I wanted to list as Frisbeeterian
- when you die, your soul goes up on the roof and you can't get it down

The last UK Census actually had significant numbers in the write-in section who listed "Jedi"

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/census2.../rank/jedi.asp

On my first income tax return, as a brand new teacher, I listed my occupation as 'Musk-oxen rancher'. I thought that was funny. I thought, hey, they're getting my money; what do they care what I do! (Oh, the innocence!!! ) No, I wasn't audited. heh.
Much have I seen and known...yet all experience is an arch, wherethrough gleams that untravelled world whose margin fades forever and forever when I move. - Tennyson
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post #25 of 159
I've been in a foxhole. Not an athiest since then.
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post #26 of 159
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Originally posted by DMBand0026
I'm a Christian, of the hardcore variety. God is awesome, I would die before I renounced my belief in my Savior, Jesus Christ.

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For what it's worth my test showed that I matched best with "Conservative Christian Protestant". The test was right on. Although I don't really like the test, but thats another story for another thread.

same here. Jesus is awesome!!!
I think I think...therefore, I think I am.

We get to think of life as an inexhaustible well. Yet everything happens only a certain number of times, and a very small number, really. How many more...
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I think I think...therefore, I think I am.

We get to think of life as an inexhaustible well. Yet everything happens only a certain number of times, and a very small number, really. How many more...
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post #27 of 159
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Originally posted by DMBand0026
I'm a Christian, of the hardcore variety. God is awesome, I would die before I renounced my belief in my Savior, Jesus Christ.

cool

but, has anyone asked you to renounce your belief??

maybe they have, i know i am always getting people trying to get me to renounce my non-belief...luckily i am strong...
of course i wouldn't die before renouncing my non-belief...that's the nice thing about being an atheist, if someone held a gun to my head and told me to accept jesus or allah or buddah or ronald mcdonald as my savior, i would in a second...makes no nevermind to me (not that the situation is likely to ever happen)...

actually jesus seemed like a pretty cool dude...how people sometimes interpret his words and what they sometimes do in his name can disappoint me, but all and all he seemed cool enough

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post #28 of 159
Geez, I've taken that test for AO at least 3 or 4 times. It basically says that I'm either a Protestant or an Orthodox, which is pretty much the case.

But I didn't listen to my mom when she tried to teach me Ukrainian when I was young, so it's just that much easier to be a Protestant.
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post #29 of 159
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Originally posted by thegelding
cool

but, has anyone asked you to renounce your belief??

maybe they have, i know i am always getting people trying to get me to renounce my non-belief...

Hmmm... renounce non-belief... that will have my mind throwing out end-of-file errors for the rest of the day...
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post #30 of 159
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Originally posted by Merovingian
What religious convictions do you hold an why or why not.



My religious crimes & misdemeanours

I hereby confess.

Sang off tune in choir.

Dressed as a priest & was charged with insider gossip.

Flirted with a nun. See above.

Broke vows of silence via orifice, physiologically at the other end of intestinal canal.

Charged with "Deius Jocularium serium "

That is : believing that God has a sense of humour.

Aqua
There are 3 types of people in the world.

Those who count.

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Those who can't.
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There are 3 types of people in the world.

Those who count.

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Those who can't.
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post #31 of 159
I believe in God in the same way that I believe in Love.

There's not actually anything there except what's in our hearts and minds. But that doesn't mean it's nothing. Or that it doesn't exist. Or that it's not important.

My results:

1._Unitarian Universalism (100%)
2._Mahayana Buddhism (95%)
3._Neo-Pagan (93%)
4._Liberal Quakers (93%)
5._New Age (86%)
6._Theravada Buddhism (84%)
7._Taoism (81%)
8._Mainline - Liberal Christian Protestants (75%)
9._Secular Humanism (74%)
10._New Thought (66%)
11._Hinduism (62%)
12._Jainism (60%)
13._Reform Judaism (60%)
14._Orthodox Quaker (57%)
15._Scientology (56%)
16._Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (54%)
17._Sikhism (50%)
18._Non-theist (45%)
19._Bahá'Ã* Faith (45%)
20._Orthodox Judaism (28%)
21._Seventh Day Adventist (27%)
22._Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (25%)
23._Mainline - Conservative Christian Protestant (24%)
24._Islam (23%)
25._Eastern Orthodox (16%)
26._Roman Catholic (16%)
27._Jehovah's Witness (12%)
post #32 of 159
I am an atheist, an atheist being "one who disbelieves in god", and not inherently "one who believes there is no god". You might say, "Well, that's an agnostic." and if you had told me that five years ago, I'd be inclined to agree with you. However, over time, I've decided that agnosticism is a completely inconsequential extension of atheism, with little rational basis. After all, would you bother to label yourself with regards to your belief in the invisible pink monkey-giraffe, if it was possible that both the invisible pink monkey-giraffe existed and did not exist? Of course not, it is ludicrous to give credence to the possibility of an invisible pink monkey-giraffe.

EDIT: In hindsight, one might apply the same argument to atheism, but to be more clear, my logic would go back to agnosticism being a philisophical extension and atheism simply being the default label for non-belief.

And, regardless, it matters not to me what you call me. Like previous posters in this thread, whether I actually believed in a god or not, it would have little effect on my day-to-day life.
post #33 of 159
Religion is the opiate of the masses.

I try to avoid opium along with other addicitve drugs.
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post #34 of 159
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Originally posted by mattjohndrow
Jesus is awesome!!!


He sure is!!!!! In fact, I just had lunch with him this afternoon. We were placing bets on who would win the Superbowl. Haha! When I called him tonight informing him that he owed me 50 bucks, he told me about the dangers of gambling, and the inherent evils of materialism (and something about fig trees and lightning). He sure changed the way I looked at things. Wow, he is so amazing.
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post #35 of 159
Double post.

Praise Jesus!!!
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post #36 of 159
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Originally posted by Carol A
I will never deal with any religion EVER again. I have no need for religion. I am a good person just as I am. I NEVER do anything to harm another. I ALWAYS try to be a positive influence in others' lives. I expend great effort when I think something I can do will increase another's happiness. I am a VERY loving person, and look for the best (and find it) in everyone. It is not difficult for me to be this way. It is easy, because it's the way I WANT to be. Does 'being good' have to be difficult? Must it be something we suffer in order to do? I don't think so. Am I pompous and self-righteous? Maybe. Oh well!!!

Religions throughout history have had negative effects on SO many peoples' lives. I have no use for religion for myself, and have no desire to inflict on myself an unnecessary system of rules. I believe there is some kind of Source of life; but certainly not one that pays attention to any of us, or "listens" and responds to prayers. The more I have learned about the marvels of science, the more I have had to believe in some kind of Source of life. PERHAPS an entity who IS Truth; who IS Goodness; who IS eternal.

But I choose to be a good person because it feels right to me, enables me to live with myself, and provides the lightness of heart that allows me to be happy and free from guilt. What else do I need, I ask you????? I am certain this all sounds pompous and self-righteous. Oh well!!!

I agree with everything you just said Carol. Most (not all) of the church-going people that I've come across go for the wrong reasons (i.e. fear of a grim afterlife) instead of a firm desire to do right by others. In fact, most act completely different outside of church, and I find this extremely unacceptable. Even though I grew up in a Baptist/Methodist environment, I am decidedly agnostic, because I see no evidence supporting or rejecting a supreme creator; I do tend to lean towards the existence of a deity in that I cannot begin to explain the origin of the universe, but in no way do I believe in the Bible's view that God requires us to worship him in return for salvation (I'm more of a deist in this respect). Instead, I believe in doing right by your fellow man, regardless of whether or not a rewarding afterlife awaits.
post #37 of 159
It's amazing that while there were so many lessons taught by Jesus about tolerance, that besides fundamentalist Muslims, the most intolerant of all are almost exclusively Fundie Christians. Also, almost all Christian/Catholic policies not supported by the Bible, or supported only by extremelyloose, unlikely interpretations, are ultimately about money or growth/maintenance about Church membership (and the more Church members, the more money). Policies on clerical celibacy, birth control, homosexuality, even abortion, can all be linked to money.

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OMG watching "World's Wildest Police Videos" (if there's a God I'd ask him why, for God only knows) and there's a naked man walking down the highway and the cop says, "You can't get to Florida naked". The guy Responds, "I have to. Jesus told me."
post #38 of 159
People have their views on religion. It would be more apt to ask people how sincere they are about following their religion. I personaly think many would find themselves lacking in following the teachings of their faith. What category do these people fit into?

edit: I am talking about extreme cases like calling yourself a Christian and not going to Church for 20years (as an example). Such people aren't exactly an aethist, but how do they justify themselves as belonging to a religion they don't respect? It is just a topic for debate.
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post #39 of 159
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What category do these people fit into?

Human

Fellows
May the peace of the Lord be with you always

Share your smile, Have respect for others, and be loving to all peoples

Paul in Athens: Acts 17 : 16-34
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May the peace of the Lord be with you always

Share your smile, Have respect for others, and be loving to all peoples

Paul in Athens: Acts 17 : 16-34
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post #40 of 159
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Originally posted by Fellowship
Human

Fellows

In some cases, yes. Still, many people use religion as an excuse to behave badly.

 

“The nitrogen in our DNA, the calcium in our teeth, the iron in our blood, the carbon in our apple pies were made in the interiors of collapsing stars. We are made of starstuff.” 
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“The nitrogen in our DNA, the calcium in our teeth, the iron in our blood, the carbon in our apple pies were made in the interiors of collapsing stars. We are made of starstuff.” 
-Sagan
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