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post #281 of 1762
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What better time could they have to release the new Newton?
post #282 of 1762
[quote]Originally posted by Fran441:
<strong>What better time could they have to release the new Newton? </strong><hr></blockquote>

YEP! I hope Jobs gets up on stage and says, "it's time to change a sig file in rumorland, here's to YOU Fran!....the new 5 ounce Newton, Ghz toy! Now shutup already."

(That was Jobs saying shut up, not me)
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post #283 of 1762
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If only I had more than a $35 gift certificate to spend at the Apple Store.

Oh well. I'm still going to MWNY, even if this show IS good enough to carry us through next year.
post #284 of 1762
Grrr, I hate Apple! Why did they do this? Now I'll NEVER get a good link to the QT keynote video stream! Everyone and their mother is going to be on it.
post #285 of 1762
OH MY GOD! I got up early specifically to check <a href="http://www.apple.com..." target="_blank">www.apple.com...</a> When i saw the new teaser i was convinced i was still dreaming.

Then i lost all control over my bowel movements...


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post #286 of 1762
BOY THIS GETS ME STEAMED!



I bet we manage to over-anticipate them...

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post #287 of 1762
dear god... even what i think i know pales in comparison to this. damn, damn, damn... steve's got me doubting myself now. AGH!
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post #288 of 1762
Somehow, I believe, ppl here are getting overjoyed.
"Beyond the rumor sites" does not have to mean they will deliver something we have not thougth of. This is just a marketing slogan after all.
post #289 of 1762
[quote]Originally posted by Smircle:
<strong>Somehow, I believe, ppl here are getting overjoyed.
"Beyond the rumor sites" does not have to mean they will deliver something we have not thougth of. This is just a marketing slogan after all.</strong><hr></blockquote>

It's a teaser and as you can see, it's doing it's job very well...

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post #290 of 1762
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! I just realized what apple's doing. they're turning the slashdot effect back on US!!! soon, every geek on earth with start flooding appleinsider, thinksecret, macosrumors, spymac and others to see what apple is talking about, and bring us ALL DOWN!!!

damn, steve, you really ARE brilliant!

either that, or in the cacophony of people trying to anticipate what apple will unveil, any "leaks" will simply get drowned out in the throng! think bout it -- even if someone came on here saying that have the cure for cancer (iCure, 'natch!), your head is already swimming like mine with dreams of quad g4's, lcd imacs, and such.
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post #291 of 1762
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But imagine the marketing blunder if Apple doesn't deliver. :eek:
post #292 of 1762
Well, I checked <a href="http://www.spymac.com." target="_blank">www.spymac.com.</a> They know shite. Remember the bathroom-Newton2 they predicted for the event when the iPod came out?

Well, now there's this thingy iWalk on their page. They say, there's a connector they don't know, so this could be the new Gigawire.

Hey. They just fücked themselves. Gigawire is supposed to be Firewire2 or wireless Firewire. Okay, if it's wireless, why does it need a connector? And if it's FireWire2, Apple would be INCREDIBLY stupid to change the connector! What are you gonna do with all your FireWire harddisks and CD burners? FireWire2 would have the same connector as FireWire1, just as it is with USB1 and 2.

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post #293 of 1762
I´m so ****ing scared about apple...

Cube will be back...with Dual G5???

Roadmap:
get money on your credit card so that you can order straight after the keynote in Apples Online Store....*money.transfer*
post #294 of 1762
Of course, it depends on how you interpret todays little message from Apple. Considering the rumor sites have reported pretty much nothing (Other than supposed G5 speeds and vague flapping in the direction of an LCD iMac), perhaps the message is just saying that information on the new hardware is way beyond the rumor sites?

This is such good fun, though. Apple is obviously teasing an important market - the legions of Apple followers who read the rumor pages are always going to be the first buyers.

It's the most excited I've been about an Apple launch since the unveiling of the iBook, so it had better not all be marketing hype.

One thing troubles me, though - that it's unlikely any exciting new 2002 machines will be booting OS X by default.
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post #295 of 1762
heh, heh. what about MacOS X on intel. would that blow your mind?

steve's a bit upset with microsoft right now, what better than to load that Dell up with OS X!

doubtful though, apple needs hardware sales.
post #296 of 1762
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[quote]One thing troubles me, though - that it's unlikely any exciting new 2002 machines will be booting OS X by default. <hr></blockquote>

Perhaps the high end machines will be booting it. Not all have to switch over at once.
post #297 of 1762
[quote]Originally posted by dav:
<strong>heh, heh. what about MacOS X on intel. would that blow your mind?

steve's a bit upset with microsoft right now, what better than to load that Dell up with OS X!

doubtful though, apple needs hardware sales.</strong><hr></blockquote>

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post #298 of 1762
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[quote]Buy Gateway?<hr></blockquote>

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Or should I say:

MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

post #299 of 1762
[quote]Originally posted by Belle (nee Cassandra):
Of course, it depends on how you interpret todays little message from Apple. Considering the rumor sites have reported pretty much nothing...<hr></blockquote>

True, so true.

Apple has really thrown down the gauntlet, so to speak. It is time for AI to get up on its trusty steed and joust.

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post #300 of 1762
..maybe the surprise will be that Steve will show us a new sweater? A second one he bought before x-mas, not just the normal black turtle neck?

There is no way Steve can present something that surprises us, since the rumours have gone berserk recently, so no chance he'll make that promise true.

I can imagine but just one thing that is totally unexpected and that everybody commented as impossible since months: a better theme for X. <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />

But as people are closing that gap in private there is not too much he can deliver.

For once Apple turned on the marketing machine and tried to boost new products before anyone had a glimpse of what it might turn out to be. SO be it.

But they better not fall behind their own campaign. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />

A well priced and thought out new iMac would do, it will not blow away people, but having seen the iPod and the hype around it you learn to go for cookies instead of cakes. :o

BTW A new PowerMac with new case and upped cpu would come handy in to raise interest IYAM. :cool:
post #301 of 1762
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For some reason, I doubt that new themes for X are the breakthrough Apple is hyping.
post #302 of 1762
I'm speechless. I just woke up, and checked Apples' site for the day's slogan, and it totaly made my jaw drop. What are the big rumors now anyway? I've been doubting mostly everything I've seen so far because it's ludicris &lt;-(spelling). The only thing I believe is The Flat iMac, and that Newton could come back, Right Fran? :eek: :eek: :eek: <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />
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post #303 of 1762
Ok so we can imagine any dreams... mmh.

First : GigaWire
Second : 3G Mobile Phone (High Speed Internet Wireless) - Remember rumours about Apple / Nokia / Ericsson ?
Third : the Red Box of Rhapsody
Four: Raycer Chip for 3D and Aqua
Five: Apollo and G5
Six: MPEG 4 and Quicktime

First & Two & Six
for the consumer: Maybe we'll see all product upgrade with an iCom / iTV apps. All Mac with Mobile Phone & TV Function (SMS, WAP, Phone, Fax, 3G Wireless Internet, Video Conf, Video on demand, Streaming). *** the true Mobile Solution***
for the pro: all of the above + clustering solutions

Third: the Red Box... Maybe it's time to attack MS on his territory

Four: True 3D on the Mac like SGI product and better

Five: this one everybody knows ...

What do u think ?

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post #304 of 1762
[quote]And if it's FireWire2, Apple would be INCREDIBLY stupid to change the connector! What are you gonna do with all your FireWire harddisks and CD burners? FireWire2 would have the same connector as FireWire1, just as it is with USB1 and 2.<hr></blockquote>

no. there is a new connector. wake up, dude.
post #305 of 1762
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Woohoo! Red Box.
post #306 of 1762
[quote]Originally posted by Fran441:
<strong>Woohoo! Red Box. </strong><hr></blockquote>

RedBox? Isn't , or, wasn't that to run windows on your mac? I don't wan't it. Lets come up with something better. Oops... They already did: OS X. 10.1.2

I remember the old AI when we all specilated about the iTab, X-Newton, or the iBook/iTab rolled into one, similar to the old Clio' . What happened? <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
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[quote]Isn't , or, wasn't that to run windows on your mac?<hr></blockquote>

Nope. Just to run windows programs on your Mac.
post #308 of 1762
[quote]Originally posted by Fran441:
<strong>Woohoo! Red Box. </strong><hr></blockquote>

...all right, a Mac OS X driven webcast QT video set top box, that bumped by RedBox will run on 2GHz Itanium embedded, handwriting controlled wireless GigaFireWire and it will wear a mini skirt and a blonde wig. :o

My best guess is the start of AppleTV, sort of video-on-demand-webcast. That way we could watch Steve the whole day breeding new Apples and easter eggs.
Consumers will be bound to the BlueBox running on embedded 604 chips for sure.

I bet my name is Christina Aguilera and I'll sing "What a girl wants (AI Edit Remix)" the 7th , but they will not deliver.......

Really a nice iMac is all that needs to get out in the first place and some more hardware when Moto/IBM get it done.
post #309 of 1762
This is going to be one HELL of a January for me... I'm a wreck!

First my first child is due any day now and then Apple starts this crap!!! Arg! I'm never gonna get any sleep.

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post #310 of 1762
[quote]Originally posted by Fran441:
<strong>

Nope. Just to run windows programs on your Mac. </strong><hr></blockquote>

Fran, what was the name of that company you worked for????

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post #311 of 1762
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Let me just point out I'm trying to add more fuel to the fire here. I'm not expecting to buy anything that shows up at MWSF. If there is something that I absolutely need to buy, then that's how I'll be 'wowed'.
post #312 of 1762
Apple is talking about something that is "big, even for us." just take a good look at what apple considers to be big: their resume includes the invention of the PC, the re-invention of the PC with the Macintosh, the iMac is the revisiting and revamping of the PC patadigm.

These are the things that apple considers to be big. Imac and digital hub (OS X / iPod) are the latest that we have be shown regarding this new approach.

It will probably be something that (once again) changes the way that we think about and use computers.

This may include a new imac, but Im tempted to think that there is much more to it.
post #313 of 1762
[quote]Originally posted by Fran441:
<strong>

Nope. Just to run windows programs on your Mac. </strong><hr></blockquote>

As good as that sounds on the surface, wouldn't that detract from Mac spacific programming? We are gaining a great # of developers right now with X and unix. just go to <a href="http://www.sourceforge.com/" target="_blank">SourceForge</a>, and see fore your self. I think at this juncture it could undermine efforts to gain developers. If that were the case I disapprove of a RedBox right now. I'm sure Gamers would hang me, but they would probably thank me in the long run. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
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But if the Mac can run the Windows apps without skipping a beat, what's the problem?
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Doesn't Apple currently have lawsuits pending against them from stockholders who claimed they over-hyped the last (don't know when) event when they promised great new products and didn't deliver and it harmed shareholders stock prices????

If I remember correctly and that's true, then I would expect they MUST have some truly awesome announcements coming or they really jeopardize losing those pending suits and will have more coming.

So I for one expect some big announcements.
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[quote]Originally posted by AppleCello:
<strong>Apple is talking about something that is "big, even for us." just take a good look at what apple considers to be big: their resume includes the invention of the PC, the re-invention of the PC with the Macintosh, the iMac is the revisiting and revamping of the PC patadigm.

These are the things that apple considers to be big. Imac and digital hub (OS X / iPod) are the latest that we have be shown regarding this new approach.

It will probably be something that (once again) changes the way that we think about and use computers.

This may include a new imac, but Im tempted to think that there is much more to it.</strong><hr></blockquote>

My bet is they are overhyping the reinvention of the iMac. You remember how it saved Apple a while back. With decent pricing, and a serious price drop on CRT models Apple could spark Nasdaq into an uproar, and save the economy!

:eek: <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" /> <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />
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It's from a firm who said that Apple 'hyped' its products to sell them, which drove up the stock price. It was the products they hyped, not the event. Apple's stock goes up and down like most companies do, and this past year has been poor for the stock market (I know, its an understatement).

This is just some short term investors whining about how they invested in Apple and the stock went down. The price of the stock now, however, is higher than when they purchased it. (It's done well in the past few weeks).

This won't make an impact one way or another.
post #318 of 1762
[quote]Originally posted by Fran441:
<strong>It's from a firm who said that Apple 'hyped' its products to sell them, which drove up the stock price. It was the products they hyped, not the event. Apple's stock goes up and down like most companies do, and this past year has been poor for the stock market (I know, its an understatement).

This is just some short term investors whining about how they invested in Apple and the stock went down. The price of the stock now, however, is higher than when they purchased it. (It's done well in the past few weeks).

This won't make an impact one way or another.</strong><hr></blockquote>


Yes, but wouldn't you say they are hyping upcoming product releases with this little countdown, not just the event. That is what I read out of it.
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[quote]Originally posted by Fran441:
<strong>But if the Mac can run the Windows apps without skipping a beat, what's the problem?</strong><hr></blockquote>

We will all be looking to MS, and Winblows for our programming, and programs, and you know where they wan't that to go. .Net. All Java, Objective C, C, and BSD Unix, will be lost to us, and extinct if they have their way, and Apple will die with it. Still sound good? <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
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My memory must be a little shaky, here is an article from the register on "one" of these lawsuits.

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A fourth set of lawyers seeking irate shareholders has crept out the woodwork to sue Apple for allegedly misleading investors.

Law firm Cauley Geller Bowman & Coates this week filed a financial misrepresentation suit against Apple in Washington, following similar suits from Schiffrin & Barroway, Charles Piven and Milberg Weiss.

All four class-actions accuse Apple of over-egging its Power Mac G4, Cube and iMac puddings by over-optimistic claims on sales and performance.

As evidence of Apple's alleged misrepresentation, the suits cite the example of four company executives who sold a shedload of AAPL shares soon after said machines were announced in July 2000 and Apple's stock was changing hands for up to $64 a pop. They made a total of $22 million on the sale.

However, after Apple announced that Q3 2000 sales were well below expectations, its share-price fell to around $13, leaving investors who had bought stock on or after 19 July with significant losses.

Apple - like all other publicly listed companies - issues caveats to cover itself against such accusations, though this time it won't be helped by the apparently advantageous executive share sales. The implication made by the lawsuits is clear: that the executives knew that sales wouldn't meet expectations, a fact that would harm the company's share price, and were selling shares while they could.
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While it isn't the main part of the suit, over-hyping performance is mentioned. Sorry if I was slighyly askew with my brain functions (hey you should've seen how many brain cells i killed on new year's eve).
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