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post #321 of 1762
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[quote]We will all be looking to MS, and Winblows for our programming, and programs, and you know where they wan't that to go. .Net. All Java, Objective C, C, and BSD Unix, will be lost to us, and extinct if they have their way, and Apple will die with it. Still sound good?<hr></blockquote>

Most programs are written in Microsoft compilers. That's not going to change, unfortunately. But it's better to run the Windows apps then to continue to have arguments of 'no software' destroy the platform. Imagine if all Windows apps could run in Mac OS X. Add in the Mac apps, and you have more apps for the Mac than you do for PCs!
post #322 of 1762
Man. How many hours until the next update of the Apple website?? I can't wait. I CAN'T...I WON'T!!!

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post #323 of 1762
Haha, this is great. Three postings on their home page and they've got the AI forums wound tighter than a drum. Maybe they're hoping they'll start causing anurisms with the next one... it'll be something like:

4 Days to MacWorld.
AI Forums is off the mark. Way Off.


Take a valium or two guys, otherwise you won't make it through the next 5 days. I can see it now, reports of the Macintosh's vaunted productivity advantage will disappear because all Mac users are constantly checking AI Forums and the Apple home page.

I have no idea what they're up to, but I don't they talking about the new processors. It might be the new iMac/iBook(s?) since both are clearly EOL. More likely they've got some killer-app hardware/software combination that is coming out of a top-secret skunkworks project. A Segway with integrated iMac, or something. Its probably something that some engineer managed to build out of a bunch of off-the-shelf components and write a bit of innovative software for. If anybody does manage to guess before Steve shows it off, I'm sure we wouldn't be able to tell the guess apart from all the other guesses being generated.
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post #324 of 1762
[quote]Originally posted by Fran441:
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Most programs are written in Microsoft compilers. That's not going to change, unfortunately. But it's better to run the Windows apps then to continue to have arguments of 'no software' destroy the platform. Imagine if all Windows apps could run in Mac OS X. Add in the Mac apps, and you have more apps for the Mac than you do for PCs! </strong><hr></blockquote>

What microsoft compilers? C compilers, for C programs, Codewarrior comes in Mac, Java or win only versions, What Microsoft Unix, Microsoft C,and Microsoft Java Compilers, are we using now? I don't wan't to get into an arguement, but I stand by my first post apposed to MS, and their .Net hell.
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post #325 of 1762
[quote]Take a valium or two guys, otherwise you won't make it through the next 5 days<hr></blockquote>

THIS would be a great slogan !

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post #326 of 1762
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remember you heard it here first.

Does anyone else get all gitty just from looking at apples home page?
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post #327 of 1762
[quote]Originally posted by Programmer:
<strong>Take a valium or two guys, otherwise you won't make it through the next 5 days. I can see it now, reports of the Macintosh's vaunted productivity advantage will disappear because all Mac users are constantly checking AI Forums and the Apple home page. </strong><hr></blockquote>

LMFAO
post #328 of 1762
[quote]Originally posted by dartblazer:
<strong>G3 iBook "sahara" 1Ghz+
G4 Powerbook 1.2GHz+
G5 iMac 1.5GHz+
G6 PowerMac 2.4GHz+

remember you heard it here first.

Does anyone else get all gitty just from looking at apples home page?</strong><hr></blockquote>

G6 at 2.4 GHz would be disapointment to me.

Motorola's original PPC roadmap released after the G4 came out had the G5 starting speed at 2.2 GHz.
Add 200MHz, and call it a G6. I'd be pissed!
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post #329 of 1762
perhaps moto have been quicker off the mark with their 70ghz processor technology than we expected.

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post #330 of 1762
What about the possiblility of the multi-core chips? G4 Apolloo and G5 both multi-core?

I doubt it, but there hasn't been much talk about it lately (has there?).
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post #331 of 1762
beyond...way beyond.....is vague....beyond does not = faster or better.....pluto is beyond earth, but i'd rather live here....apple can release something other than G5 and super fast computers and still fit the "beyond" tagline....still i expect great stuff...g
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post #332 of 1762
[quote]Originally posted by Fran441:
<strong>

Most programs are written in Microsoft compilers. That's not going to change, unfortunately. But it's better to run the Windows apps then to continue to have arguments of 'no software' destroy the platform. Imagine if all Windows apps could run in Mac OS X. Add in the Mac apps, and you have more apps for the Mac than you do for PCs! </strong><hr></blockquote>

In the end 2 things would probably happen
1. MS would try to break it every chance it got (just like it did with IBM's OS2 Win Compatibility)
2. It's still emulation so we'd have nothing but poor preforming apps/games, and even fewer companies would decide to make actual Mac apps reasoning that they don't need to.

I think Windows Emu should be left with 3rd Party. There's already some companies who suggest this since they don't have mac products, image how many more would say to do this if it was built into the OS.

Anywho, bring on MWSF! I can't wait! I'm negotiating right now for the sale of my G4, C'mon G5!!!
post #333 of 1762
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[quote]It's still emulation so we'd have nothing but poor preforming apps/games, and even fewer companies would decide to make actual Mac apps reasoning that they don't need to.<hr></blockquote>

I said this would only be good if the apps peformed as well as their Mac counterparts (without performance degredation).
post #334 of 1762
[quote]Originally posted by X704:
<strong>Anywho, bring on MWSF! I can't wait! I'm negotiating right now for the sale of my G4, C'mon G5!!!</strong><hr></blockquote>


I think it's a big mistake to be selling now when there will be no G5s introduced. Unless, of course, you're interested in buying a Gigahertz+ G4 w/DDR.

This hype has reached the point of insanity! I'm waiting for the whining & bitch sessions to begin next week.
post #335 of 1762
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Oh, and it will be more than the boards can take.
post #336 of 1762
[quote]Originally posted by thinklikeacriminal:
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This hype has reached the point of insanity! I'm waiting for the whining & bitch sessions to begin next week. </strong><hr></blockquote>

4 days to Macworld. This one ends whining and bitching once and for all. :eek:
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post #337 of 1762
[quote]Originally posted by Fran441:
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Imagine if all Windows apps could run in Mac OS X. </strong><hr></blockquote>

Hmm, OK, closing my eyes ...

I see Adobe and Macromedia announcing that, owing to Mac OS's newfound Windows compatibility, the Windows versions of Photoshop, Illustrator, GoLive, Dreamweaver, Fire, et al will run acceptably on the Macintosh and that therefore Macintosh-specific development will cease. (Why maintain two separate development streams when one can do the job nearly as well?) I see dozens of companies following suit, with the possible exception of Microsoft, which maintains the MacBU solely for the good publicity.

I see thousands of Mac users, getting a whiff of the stench of imminent death, begin migrating to Windows full-time (after all, they're already running Windows apps on their boxes--why not run them on their native OS, and on hardware that's fast and cheap too?).

I see a desperate Apple porting OS X to the Intel platform--by which time, of course, it's already too late. The Mac becomes a hobbyist platform, useful only to geeks and to the few market segments not yet completely dominated by Windows (biotech, professional audio). In other words, the Mac joins Be, Amiga, and OS2/Warp in the ranks of the Little OSes That, Ultimately, Couldn't.

***

Lots of people have advanced this idea that the Mac should be the Rosetta Stone of computers, able to run applications written for any platform. In a perfect world, all computers should be like that. In a world dominated by Microsoft, it's a recipe for obsolesence and irrelevance.
post #338 of 1762
Here's a scary thought... What if they mean "beyond" as in no G5 PowerMacs or G4 iMacs but rather they are referring to something completely different?
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post #339 of 1762
Nah. Anyway, here is what IDG had to say about the keynote rescheduling:

"Due to the impact of new announcements from Apple, Steve Jobs' keynote was moved to one day earlier than previously scheduled."
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post #340 of 1762
[quote]Originally posted by Fran441:
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I said this would only be good if the apps peformed as well as their Mac counterparts (without performance degredation).</strong><hr></blockquote>

Well ... any way you look at it it'd be emulation. Emulation always has a penalty due to the extra overhead. Even with Apple's knowledge it would still be considerable. I mean, it's nice in theory (I'd love to be able to run any windows app) but in the long run I can see it doing only bad for Apple (unless they planned on abandoning PPC, then this may be a very plausable idea)
post #341 of 1762
[quote]Originally posted by thinklikeacriminal:
[QB]


I think it's a big mistake to be selling now when there will be no G5s introduced. Unless, of course, you're interested in buying a Gigahertz+ G4 w/DDR.
/QB]<hr></blockquote>
I'd settle for that. Just means when MWNY came around I'd have to sell it in anticipation of the G5
.

I'm currently negotiating to sell my beefed up G4 466 for around $1500 (gotta love ebay buyers), if a G4 800 Mhz or so comes out for $1699, I'd say I'll still be lookingn pretty good for $200 (all I'd need to do is upgrade the ram, add $50-$100).
post #342 of 1762
ya know the BMW example people always use...

They are going to become a car company! The ipod?? Its a car stupid!! and it hovers!! Jobs bought the real "IT" segway thing and it is a flying car!!!!


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post #343 of 1762
[quote]Originally posted by Alpha Mac:
<strong>Have a look <a href="http://www.spymac.com" target="_blank">SpyMac.com</a></strong><hr></blockquote>

If you haven't realized already, spymac is a pathetic fraud with crappy 3d renderings complete with classic photoshop effects. Can't believe how many idiots still go around trumpeting that site. Yahoo even ran a video story on it.
post #344 of 1762
[quote]Originally posted by Fran441:
<strong>Oh, and it will be more than the boards can take. </strong><hr></blockquote>

Yeah, this is war!

We'll see.
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post #346 of 1762
Good one. I almost hit apple.com to check
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post #347 of 1762
Now from Apple's web site (THIS IS REAL)



Now I am starting to believe we will be seeing G5 PowerMac

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post #348 of 1762
LMAO!!

nice 1
post #349 of 1762
LOL


Should better read kormac77, or was it 76?
post #350 of 1762
4 days to Macworld San Francisco.
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post #351 of 1762
There was some discussion around here about a slot on the new imac that you could plug you ipod into like a removable drive. (I forget who thought up the idea.) What if Spymac is actually on the ball this time, and the unknown "sixteen pin connector" is a new version of the duo-dock connector?
Absolutly no basis for this idea, but how cool would it be to have a dock slot for the iWalk/iPod/iwhatever digital hub devices( all of them could use the slot or plug in via firewire- faster tranfer if plugged in via the slot), as well as having the wireless firewire that 1394.org has been discusing- a 10 miles range wireless connection directly to the computer, not through the internet.
You could have the iwalk as a portable desktop- your computer, and it's files available via wireless firewire over a ten mile range (For me, that includes my work), or use the iwalk as a PDA.
slide it into the slot for actually transfering files quickly. Otherwise, it would auto update any file you alter via the iwalk- the iwalk would basically be a second monitor for the computer, but with its own proccessor. It could get confusing to people though, who suddenly can't access their computer once then hit 10.1 miles, or it gets stormy out.

Job's 3 issues with PDAs as they currently stand-dumbed down internet (solved by an ARM- based device like the ipod, that is powerful enough to handle Flash(.swf)/DHTML files), that no one brings it to a meeting (solved if it had a live connection directly to your office computer, so that you could be writing to a file on your computer, not to a file locally on the iWalk), and three- how it is a pain to sync them (this was a peve he had mainly with the newton- the Newton had its own OS, it was its own thing, not a "digital device as part of the digital hub". The above idea for the iWalk would solve these problems, by making the iWalk for walking around with your desktop in your hand- not making you figure out a home network, and which computer has the latest vertion of you files, etc.
You couldn't do more than text, email, adress book, web, and maybe itunes visualisations, and file managment, but I would buy one of these- I could have access to my computer directly from work- no telneting over to it through the internet. It could be nice for remote- admining servers- a remote gui, maybe it could be set up to virtual desktop with a few different machines, a couple of stylus hits, and you are looking at a different computer's desktop.
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post #352 of 1762
[quote]Originally posted by Kate:
<strong>LOL


Should better read kormac77, or was it 76? </strong><hr></blockquote>

Guess again
post #353 of 1762
4 days to Macworld San Francisco.
The wait is more agonizing than your girlfriends last pregnancy test!!!!
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post #354 of 1762
[quote]Originally posted by kormac75:
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Guess again </strong><hr></blockquote>

78?

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post #355 of 1762
RW, you're close to what i have theorized in the past. consider that everyone has an idisk accessible from any computer anywhere with an internet connection (this was limited to mac-only before itools went all webdav-vy). apple has also pioneered wireless networking for the home and soho markets. now, as you said, the big limitation of using a pda is having to haul it back to your computer to "sync" it. screw that! just walk around, latch onto an internet signal, and "sync" all your data from anywhere... anytime! to do this, though, apple would need a major partnership with a telecom company to ride on the back of their infrastructure. screw syncing your ipod. just download the tunes form your idisk to your ipod wirelessly anywhere (as long as you decrease your quality expectations. internet anywhere (instead of having to log in at a stupid pc-based internet cafe with coffee jockeys doing tech troubleshooting.

suddenly, the plan comes together folks. i can see it now. :eek:

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post #356 of 1762
Well, here some serious stuff. Yes, I know it's hard to be serious now, but what the hell.



4 days to Macworld San Francisco.
Less than 60% of you will survive until January 7. Way less.
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post #357 of 1762
I'm never one to follow the crowd but hell, everyone else is doing it...as far as the next creepy message is concerned, I don't think anything could drive us crazier than this:

4 Days to Macworld San Francisco.
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post #358 of 1762
[quote]Originally posted by river-wind:
<strong>What if Spymac is actually on the ball this time...&lt;snip&gt;</strong><hr></blockquote>

If SpyMac is on teh ball at all, they'll release this so-called video of the "iWalk" in use. My opinion? THey're full of total bullshit and talking as though they have facts. Simple.

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post #359 of 1762
I had this dream last night.......... It was horrible....



post #360 of 1762
i figured out what the "beyond the rumor sites" is referring to! apple is going beyond mosr's prediction of a dodecahedron powermac and making a g5 with an 18-sided casing!
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