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post #1 of 116
3/14/04 at 7:54am
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I attended an "event" recently and during several of the presentations, a slide was shown that showed a 23" or larger aluminum display beside an Apple Tower.

I asked someone about the display and they said, "I don't know what that is... (name deleted) put this slide show together and no telling where ____ pulled that image from..."

I've recreated the image below, (the original had a black background like the G5 images)

I saw the sllide for about 2-3 secs and an Apple guy clicked right by it without flinching. In case your wondering if a bunch of people stood up immediately and said "HEY! AN ALUMINUM DISPLAY!!!!", this was not the case, the room was full of mac users but not any hardcore future hardware types like me. Was mostly an older crowd wanting to know hot to start using OS X, etc, you get the idea.

Things to note, i couldn't remember the height in comparison to the tower but it was at least a 23 inch display, maybe bigger.

There was no support foot in the middle back showing.

Here it is: Higher res version
here



I realize that WrongRobot posted the image below in another thread..





But as you can see here, this is just a current Cinema Display, although with an odd looking support from underneath the G5.

At any rate , just thought I'd do a mockup of what I saw.

No buttons on the front were showing. and the image looked very "official" especiallly on the black background...

MSKR


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Here's a closer looking example of what I saw, although I added the headline.



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post #2 of 116
3/14/04 at 8:07am
Teh sexy I say! I want one.
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post #3 of 116
3/14/04 at 8:08am
A mock story and pic, excellent!
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post #4 of 116
3/14/04 at 8:10am
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A mock story and pic, excellent!

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post #5 of 116
3/14/04 at 8:41am
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post #6 of 116
3/14/04 at 9:23am
It's most likely coming soon, probably with the next G5 upgrade in April.
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post #7 of 116
3/14/04 at 9:38am
Mmmmmmm....even less adjustable! Just what we all asked for!

Sorry, as fun as it is to have it match the G5, I rather suspect it will not have the exact G5 love handles. Too flat and immovable.

One would hope they could iMac-ify the displays with optional beefed up swing arm, but also allow a fixed semi adjustable stand (i.e. no built-in legs YUCK) - plus - allow it to be wall mounted!

So make it flat backed, no built in legs, optional iMac arm and base (sold separately!) and I'll be happy.

My dream desk is bar style with wall mounted display.
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post #8 of 116
3/14/04 at 10:41am
Yes- I love the look of these displays, but they're not adjustable enough.

I'd like to see apple making something like the iMac arm for the displays (I have no idea how, but I'm sure apple can engineer something that everyone else can copy).

I'd like to see wall mountable too- but how is that any more adjustable than the current displays? I'd say its even less.

I'd also like to see a TV tuner built in because I'm never buying anything with a tube again. My next computer display is going to be used as my TV (I'm planning on getting the 20" apple and maybe an eyeTV or a tuner card for my 3GHz G5).

My parents got the gateway 42" plasma last summer and it rocks (yes I know if doesn't have the best black display, but the color saturation is great after some color tuning and a progressive scan DVD player with some Monster component video cables)! So I'm planning on getting something wide and flat for my next TV/Computer monitor. Hopefully a 20", wall mountable, iMac arm, aluminum, apple display to match my shiny new dual 3GHz G5!
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post #9 of 116
3/14/04 at 10:51am
Non-adjustable is fine as long as it is optional.

1. iMac-like arm/base (optional, sold separately), super adjustable
2. Included external stand, moderately adjustable
3. Wall mounted, non-adjustable.

All 3 would be possible in one unit.

Non-built-in legs makes it attractive as 1 or 3 (currently it's hideous, IMHO, in those situations although fine by itself as intended). 3rd party arms with current displays looks goofy to me, sorry. And a wall mounted Cinema display with little legs sticking out would of course be visually asinine.

Making the iMac are/base optional would save a lot on shipping since it would need to be very heavy. Since not everyone would use it, keep it optional.
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post #10 of 116
3/14/04 at 10:53am
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Originally posted by tacojohn
Yes- I love the look of these displays, but they're not adjustable enough.

I'd like to see apple making something like the iMac arm for the displays (I have no idea how, but I'm sure apple can engineer something that everyone else can copy).

for the record, apple didn't actually engineer the imac swing arm. it was engineered by a palo alto company called function. a friend of mine worked as a mech engineer on the team (they also did the cubes underside spring-handle, the magnetic powerbook latch, and the original adjustable stands for the cinema displays. luckily, he said they didn't have steve lording over them saying "you call THAT a SUNFLOWER??!!??"

not sure if apple still uses function, as function removed every shred of evidence they did work for apple from their on-line portfolio right after the flat-panel imac was released. apple is still listed in their range of clients. function has also done some cool engineering like danger's hiptop case and hinge display and the fold-out palm portable keyboard.
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post #11 of 116
3/14/04 at 10:56am
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Originally posted by rok
for the record, apple didn't actually engineer the imac swing arm. it was engineered by a palo alto company called function. a friend of mine worked as a mech engineer on the team (they also did the cubes underside spring-handle, the magnetic powerbook latch, and the original adjustable stands for the cinema displays.

not sure if apple still uses function, as function removed every shred of evidence they did work for apple from their on-line portfolio right after the flat-panel imac was released.

That's fairly normal in the industry though isn't it? See XBOX and Microsoft or Gillette razors etc. Usually a 3rd party design firm is in the mix somewhere.
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3/14/04 at 10:58am
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That's fairly normal in the industry though isn't it? See XBOX and Microsoft or Gillette razors etc. Usually a 3rd party design firm is in the mix somewhere.

well, yeah. i just think some folks (myself included) get led to believe that apple does all the cool stuff, whereas they just go to places like function and say "um, steve wants a sunflower. make it happen..."
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post #13 of 116
3/14/04 at 11:30am
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well, yeah. i just think some folks (myself included) get led to believe that apple does all the cool stuff, whereas they just go to places like function and say "um, steve wants a sunflower. make it happen..."

True. That's marketing for ya.

What then of HP:Invent?

Since Apple contracted out for iPod and HP is licensing iPod from Apple it seems like the biggest joke is HP's logo/slogan.

Should be HP:License
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post #14 of 116
3/14/04 at 11:42am
Ok, what is wrong with the first link...
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post #15 of 116
3/14/04 at 2:04pm
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Ok, what is wrong with the first link...

Did it get yanked, ala "steve'd"?
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post #16 of 116
3/14/04 at 2:15pm
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Ok, what is wrong with the first link...

It's "http://http//". Just remove the last "http//", and you have a perfectly functioning link. :-)
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post #17 of 116
3/14/04 at 2:28pm
That just looks freaking sweet! I can say no more.
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post #18 of 116
3/14/04 at 2:29pm
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It's "http://http//". Just remove the last "http//", and you have a perfectly functioning link. :-)

Noticed that the link is fixed now. Thanks for pointing out the problem.
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post #19 of 116
3/14/04 at 2:34pm
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Noticed that the link is fixed now. Thanks for pointing out the problem.

Masker, sweeeet mockup. I still would like adjustability of the screen. Not sure if the iMac arm is "the" answer, but something that allows that amout of flexibilty would sure be nice.

I go along with the idea for the display to have no built-in legs, be wall mountable, and have at least one desktop base.
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post #20 of 116
3/14/04 at 2:46pm
It looks very awesome, hopefully Ive gets right on that!
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post #21 of 116
3/14/04 at 10:38pm
aluminum is so 2003.

we need a new metal.
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post #22 of 116
3/14/04 at 11:10pm
Apple needs to introduce a new line of displays. The current line is like three years old! While I like the image shown (having seen the same mockup floating around the internet for some time) it represents another non-adjustable display. I like the idea of a removable adjustable stand so that the display can be free-standing or hung on the wall to be used as a HDTV monitor. I have a very small desk and hanging a nice 23" flat panel on the wall would work well for me for both computer use and as a TV. I know others would want the flexability of an adjustable iMac-like arm or something similar. Most would not use a computer display as a TV but the option should be available if you buy a separate tuner. I hope Apple has thought of all this, that there will be a new multi-use display lineup with inputs other than just ADC, and soon! I've been saving my pennies and if something like this isn't available soon, I'll probably get a HDTV set instead.
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post #23 of 116
3/15/04 at 4:01am
Apple will probably just re-style the look of the display, not try and reinvent the wheel (iMac) and just update it. The reason they havent done this already? Why not milk an existing classic and good looking unit? That's my guess, expect display changes upon the next G5 rev. I'll be happily surprised if Apple does come up with a new type of display ergonomic.
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post #24 of 116
3/15/04 at 6:02am
ADC only, has got to go. I just sold a 17" Studio Display and it took months. Nobody wants anything to do with ADC. It's nice if you have a recent Mac tower, but only then.
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post #25 of 116
3/15/04 at 6:32am
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ADC only, has got to go. I just sold a 17" Studio Display and it took months. Nobody wants anything to do with ADC. It's nice if you have a recent Mac tower, but only then.

Exactly. I've always wondered why Apple did that and lost out on potential PC users who wanted to buy a Cinema Display (unlikely, but possible).

And while the current monitors are robust, they are getting dated in styling...especially with the big fat bezel frames.
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post #26 of 116
3/15/04 at 7:01am
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ADC only, has got to go. I just sold a 17" Studio Display and it took months. Nobody wants anything to do with ADC. It's nice if you have a recent Mac tower, but only then.

If it has to have DVI it also needs a power supply - and that's exactly what Apple's DVI-ADC adapter really is.
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post #27 of 116
3/15/04 at 7:15am
I think it'd be kinda neat if they were redesigned so that a new DVI-ADC converter could be snapped on to the back of the display. That way you'd have one less little box banging around behind your desk.
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post #28 of 116
3/15/04 at 8:31am
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If it has to have DVI it also needs a power supply - and that's exactly what Apple's DVI-ADC adapter really is.

While trying to sell my 17" with ADC, I had a few Wintel users look at it and say "wow, nice monitor!" When I showed them the DVI adapter they'd have to use with it, they waved their hands and said "no thanks."
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post #29 of 116
3/15/04 at 8:52am
On the other hand, I know a 3D guy who just bought a 23" Cinema HD display for his PC, adapter and all, because it's just that sweet.
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post #30 of 116
3/15/04 at 4:23pm
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Originally posted by sorhed
aluminum is so 2003.

we need a new metal.

My vote is for Beryllium.

As long as Apple puts a standard VESA mount on the back of their displays, I'm happy. And if they wouldn't put "feet" underneath them so the display doesn't look so lame when I mount it on a VESA arm, well, that would be pretty swank as well.
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3/15/04 at 4:34pm
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My vote is for Beryllium.

Nah, not ductile enough.
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post #32 of 116
3/15/04 at 4:45pm
Anything but the radioactive columns of the table... and maybe Sodium. And Lead.

Unununium !!!
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post #33 of 116
3/15/04 at 4:55pm
I'm waiting for marble, stone or wood.

I'd love a wood Powerbook with marble keyboard.

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post #34 of 116
3/15/04 at 5:00pm
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I'd love a wood Powerbook with marble keyboard.

Didn't Fred Flintstone have one of those?
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post #35 of 116
3/15/04 at 5:11pm
Nerfbook!
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post #36 of 116
3/15/04 at 6:12pm
How about Mercury (the SplatBook) ?
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post #37 of 116
3/15/04 at 6:39pm
Messiahtosh, I think you're looking too hard and exerting quite a bit of energy for such small returns. Pull back on the reins a tad: a slideshow "leaks" a new display AND an official Apple T-shirt points the way to a new iPod? Both in one day?

Will you see a new iBook design in your Pop-Tart tomorrow morning?

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post #38 of 116
3/16/04 at 10:07am
Nice looking mockups, but i'm 99.9% sure you just saw a regular Cinema Display reflecting the light funny or something. It's not the first time that the Cinema Display has been mistaken for aluminum in a photo.

I do not think many people at Apple have access to secret new products. Least of all some guy doing a 'learn to use OS X' presentation to a MUG.

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post #39 of 116
3/16/04 at 10:39am
Thank you. That's what I was trying to say, but kept tripping and stumbling on sarcasm.
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post #40 of 116
3/16/04 at 12:26pm
I dont know about the display, but could someone post that desktop image
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