Man talk about tactics, the left has used some nasty tactics with regard to this president.
In the blame game no-one wins. I am not blaming anyone, just pointing out that there is plenty of responsibility to go around. But you and others seem to think that it is OK to pin it all on Bush. If all you say is true than that would go in the face of the whole "Bush is a big dummy" argument that a lot of the left uses. He is one guy, this is one country. There are so many other players in this thing yet, once again, it is all Bush's fault.
As far as the UN goes, it seems fine to turn to them as the ultimate authority, yet when it comes to their responsibility as said authority, they can't be held accountable. What gives?
I hear the left say stuff like; "Hey Saddam was not a nice guy, but Bush is a LIAR and he misled everyone." Does anyone else see anything wrong with that line?
Blame? I would say it is Bush who is getting the blame laid at his feet by you and the other ABB lovers.
As far as the disloyal thing, I asked a question, it was rhetorical. I question anyone that would choose loyalty to foreign countries like, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Libya, and the likes in place of their own country that has done so much good throughout the world. I question it even more because it is such a political issue. Am I wrong?
Don't attribute the disagreement to the war with the left or liberls. Centrists and conservatives are also against it.
The answer is yes. Look back to ohh, 1960 or so and you'll see the same line towed by the Kennedy administration about Vietnam. Later LBJ followed the same logic as did Tricky Dick. We are not aligning ourselves with foreign powers. We are questioning the justifications for a war involving so many US troops. We are questioning a war founded on halftruths. We are questioning the administration, NOT aligning with foreign powers. Questioning one's rulers is not disloyal; moreover, if you are not questioning this administration in the light of all of the revelations I feel sorry for you. Anybody who doesn't question an action such as invading a soverign nation on false pretenses to justify a prexisting plan needs to be a little introspective.
Please, I'm asking you, do some research. Read the writings of those within this administration. Contrast what was said by Tenet a couple of weeks ago to what the administration said. Read what Powell said before the war, to the UN, and to-date. Read what Rummy, and Dick have both said before the war and to-date. If you take the time to read these statements in context, if you take the time to read the views of those within the intelligence agencies, if you take the time to contrast what was said to what is being said you might actually be surprised.
Read articles like these:
Three time articles I found in a 1.5 minutes. There are hundreds if not thousands of good articles out there as well as the words as spoken by those within the administratin
I'm sorry but I am not a Ditto-head. I don't question someone's patriotism, or their allegiance because they disapprove of the nations leadership. In fact, I'll hold my own allegiance up to anyones. I'll hold my military service up. I'll hold my volunteer service up. I'll hold be lack of blind acceptance of this conflict up as my patriotism. I'm actually offended that you could draw a line like that in the sand, but I guess that stems from the administrations "With us or against us" mentality.
Also, don't demogogue the debate with rape chambers and the like because SH is not the worst and is defenetly not (or at least was not) the only dictator out there. If that was the justification then so be it. That is a good reason in my mind, but if we go after SH for that reason then we need to go after all dictators.
The evil dictator reason wasn't the one presented to the nation as the major reason for invasion though was it. WMD was. Ties to Al Quaeda was. Not the liberation of an oppressed people. The last reason didn't evolve until it became apparent that the ties and WMD would never be found. Mull that over for a little while. Why did "they" have to change their song and dance? According to Powell before the UN, and statements made by Cheney, Rummy, and Perle before the conflict we "knew" where the stuff was. If we "knew" why haven't we found it yet?
My last question is was war in your opinion the only answer?
Please address the issues though. Don't get upset with me and simply dismiss me because I've asked a coupple of questions. I took the time to address your points in a logical laid out fashion can and will you do the same?