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post #1 of 43
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Seems that over the past month the spam thats been hitting my .mac address has been growing. I got at least 10+ emails yesterday for various sex-aids and random word messages.

Now normally I wouldn't pointing any fingers, I've had this account since Mac OS 9 so I expect I've been added to quite a lists over the years. The annoying thing is that most of these that i've been getting aren't specifically addressed to me. They are to another .mac address that is alphabeticlaly very similar to mine. If you then look at the headers, its just a big list of .mac addresses in alphabetical order. WTH? How did someone get hold of this list? Really ticks me off.

They are also being sent with no ADV in the subject line, and half the opt-outs are 404. I've been forwarding all these to abuse@mac.com and hope Apple is working to do something about it, but somehow I doubt it. I really wish they would take legal action on all the idiot spammers out there harrassign their customers.

Has anyone else noticed increased .mac spam?
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post #2 of 43
Nope. I get one or two items a week max. I've had the same iTools/.Mac e-mail account since the very day it was introduced those many years ago. On that note, are you using Mail's junk mail feature to filter some of them out?

More than likely, you just have an easy name for spammers to figure out. Sending messages en masse to users via a name generator is the oldest trick in the spammer's book. They've been doing it for years.

Reminders for future e-mail usage (not directed to you specifically):
  • Create a unique name. A random hash of letters and numbers is best, but a combination of odd words does well too. Translating your name to "leet" is another good one. This will help reduce the likelihood of a name generator catching you.
  • Disable image loading in your Mail program. Images in HTML e-mails can be linked to server-side scripts that, when loaded, will remember that your e-mail address is a valid and active account and open for future spamming.
  • Never post your primary e-mail address online or in forms online unless you know absolutely that it will be kept private. If you have to enter an e-mail address to download a program or read an ezine or something, create a junk hotmail account solely for that purpose.
  • Never participate in those e-mail forwarding/chain-letter things. If someone forwards you something, immediately tell them to STOP sending you that crap. Every single person that receives that forwarded e-mail from him and then from all of those people, etc. will have your e-mail address. Eventually, it will get to a spammer, e-mail harvester, or virus-infected PC that will cause you trouble.
post #3 of 43
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half the opt-outs are 404

Are you clicking on the opt out link? This is the easiest way for a spammer to know you're a good email address. Don't ever do that. Ever.

Chances are, that 404 message is linked to a database that tells the spammer "hey, this address is real!" Never EVER click on a link in a spam email.
post #4 of 43
Kickaha and Amorph couldn't moderate themselves out of a paper bag. Abdicate responsibility and succumb to idiocy. Two years of letting a member make personal attacks against others, then stepping aside when someone won't put up with it. Not only that but go ahead and shut down my posting priviledges but not the one making the attacks. Not even the common decency to abide by their warning (afer three days of absorbing personal attacks with no mods in sight), just shut my posting down and then say it might happen later if a certian line is crossed. Bullshit flag is flying, I won't abide by lying and coddling of liars who go off-site, create accounts differing in a single letter from my handle with the express purpose to decieve and then claim here that I did it. Everyone be warned, kim kap sol is a lying, deceitful poster.

Now I guess they should have banned me rather than just shut off posting priviledges, because kickaha and Amorph definitely aren't going to like being called to task when they thought they had it all ignored *cough* *cough* I mean under control. Just a couple o' tools.

Don't worry, as soon as my work resetting my posts is done I'll disappear forever.
post #5 of 43
I really wish the whole spam/telemarketing/junk mail thing was the other way around: if you WANT this stuff, you have to do something to receive it (let the companies know, fill out a form saying "yes, deluge me with endless piles of crap", etc.).

Here I am, living my life and so forth, and I have to go out of my way to sign up for "do not call" registries, activiate spam/junk mail filters, wade through 19 pieces of "ONE DAY ONLY MATTRESS LIQUIDATION" flyers in my mail to get any real mail, etc.



By default, none of should be subject to bugging, annoyance, harrassment, etc.

If I want record-low refinancing, 6 more inches of "thicker, stronger penis", or see barely legal Asian lesbian housewives, I'll come to you, asshole.

post #6 of 43
I have a mac.com addy which is not in l33t or not a random jumble of characters. I get no spam on that one at all. Don't publish your private e-mail address anywhere and revel in the non-spammedness of your account.
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post #7 of 43
I do too, and I get almost none (my above tirade was mostly at telemarketing/junk mail, but a few pieces of spam slip through...and I know that I can't give my e-mail out at a legitimate place because who knows where it'll wind up.



It's just sad that, again, I have to go through the hassle of setting up a stupid Hotmail or Yahoo account just so I can enter an e-mail at a site.



When I check those accounts once every few weeks, there are 300 pieces of porn/financial/marketing spam crammed in there.

My .Mac account, thankfull, is pretty righteous and spam-free.

And it's nothing clever...most of you can probably guess it.. Ahem...
post #8 of 43
said it before, i'll say it again. spammers make legit email marketing nigh-useless. i have worked in this field for the past several years, but when we put unsubscribe links in our e-mails, they actually work. problem is, advice like "never click unsubscribes" gets around, and then everyone assumes that everyone's guilty.

the only ways to get e-mail back to the ones who DON'T abuse it are:

never subscribe for anything that you don't want
read all pertinent privacy policies
make sure nothing is checked that shouldn't be
if you have domain names, make sure your main e-mail account is NOT listed on the registration info.
do not use a standard "mailto:" link for your address on a web site (some harvesters are savvy to javascript tricks, but railheaddesign's spamstopper is still better than nothing)
if talking to someone verbally, NEVER give out your e-mail unless you specifically tell them to not give out your e-mail address to third parties. they WILL do this by default (citibank tried to do this on me, and i told her "don't give it out to anyone outside citibank," and THEN she made that modification -- i shudder to think how many e-mails i would get if i hadn't caught that)
you can leave on html e-mails (they're not friggin' evil), but turn OFF the preview pane in your e-mail client. that way you can delete e-mails without loading them.
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post #9 of 43
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Yeah I think why it bugs me so much is that I use the .mac web mail a lot, which has no junk mail filter. Ugh.

I generally only opt-out of things I get multiple mails from over time, i.e. the bastards don't give up. But really Tori, the easiest way to see if an email address is valid is just to see if you get a bounced mail. No tricky 404 page necessary.

These aren't all directed at me specifically so much as a group of .mac addresses. Most of the time my address isn't even the main one being sent too, me and a big list of .mac's are bcc'd on them. I'm guessing it what Brad said, probably some kind of name generator.

Bleh. Die spammers die!!

If only states would actually ENFORCE existing spam laws!!
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post #10 of 43
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Originally posted by dviant
the easiest way to see if an email address is valid is just to see if you get a bounced mail. No tricky 404 page necessary.

There's a difference between a valid email address and an email address that you know someone is reading the mail for. That's what these webbugs, as I believe they are called, are designed to find out.
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post #11 of 43
I use my .Mac account practically everywhere on the net, yet I receive almost no spam on it. My web hosting company OTOH, 10 so far today. And I only use that e-mail on an educational site. \

Not using Mail either, no filters or everything. If the mail servers let it come through, its going through.
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post #12 of 43
I get no spam on my .Mac email address, except for various newsletters that I signed up for years ago and am too lazy to unsubscribe to.

OTOH, email address that I get from my ISP offers SpamAssassin and Graymail(Thank you Sonic.net!), so I see none on that account.

There is one feature I would like to see added to Mail.app. I'd love to see a rule where I can set some emails to load images and some to not. For example I get a few newsletters that use images, and I send those to a seperate folder. By default, no messages load images, but I'd like to be able to set those newsletters to automatically load images without having to click on a seperate button.
post #13 of 43
I get tons of spam because I signed up to too many forums like this one and my .mac account is my name with a number one after it - very simple.

I get about 15-20 spams a day, but the filter catches almost all of them. No big deal. Just an annoyance.
post #14 of 43
In the last few weeks I have seen an increase (from near zero) of spam for "V1A-G-rA" and other products to my (non-.mac) email address. However, the start coincided with one of the recent windows virii, which infected the computer of someone who apparently knows me. (since their infected computer was forging emails with my name on them)

The random words are to defeat bayesian spam filters, but it can't be too hard to detect messages with a large percentage of garbled words.
post #15 of 43
I rarely get spam in my Dot Mac account. When I do, I just bounce it.

Maybe I'm just lucky.
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post #16 of 43
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Originally posted by Brad
[BTranslating your name to "leet" is another good one. This will help reduce the likelihood of a name generator catching you... [/B]

ast3r3x!

I don't have a .mac account, I actually use a free email and don't get any spam. Not a single piece. If I sign up for it, I get it, but I can always unsubscribe because it's not spam, it's legitimate stuff. I just use a little precaution before giving my email to web sites.

I never partake in those web chain emails, and always tell the person to stop, but that is just because I find them annoying.

The only thing I get is the rare blank email from an @aol.com account.

While the spam filter in mail works very well (I know from my parents/family account) I don't see that it is a good problem solver, just a temporary solution. I don't know what can be done but something should.

It should work the same way any service does, residential gets say 5,000 emails a month to be sent, maybe more even. But businesses need to register to be able to mass email so that if they abuse their emailing privileges by not really taking you off a list, than they get in trouble. I guess over the residential limit that I could live with gates' $.01/email but who does that money go to?
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post #17 of 43
I wish that Apple would use a blacklist server.
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post #18 of 43
Jeez! Today has been a spam-full day. 45 messages and counting. Ridiculous. mail.app's junk filter is working well, but it's out of hand today. Maybe it's time for a new email address....
post #19 of 43
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Originally posted by torifile
Jeez! Today has been a spam-full day. 45 messages and counting. Ridiculous. mail.app's junk filter is working well, but it's out of hand today. Maybe it's time for a new email address....

You are not alone! I remembered that I had the same thing in the past month or two. I think it is just a weird day. Normally, I don't get more than 10 spam /day on my .Mac account.
post #20 of 43
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Originally posted by Kenneth
You are not alone! I remembered that I had the same thing in the past month or two. I think it is just a weird day. Normally, I don't get more than 10 spam /day on my .Mac account.

Up to 75!!! today. Unbelievable. I don't know what's going on. Usually, I'm at around 6 or 7. I hope this isn't the beginning of a trend. This is outrageous.
post #21 of 43
AI is probably selling your address.

Or it's Google which has eyes everywhere, including in the ads here.

BTw, every so often, it's good to re-train your junk mail filter for a few days. The spammers get crafty and a few more slip between the cracks as time goes on.

My .Mac e-mail gets spam all the time, but I know it's my fault for using the address willy-nilly on the net.
post #22 of 43
My uber-secret address didn't get any spam today, but my normal account go the spike. I'm up to well over 100 messages today. I wouldn't at all be surprised if AI sold our e-mail addresses, actually...
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post #23 of 43
Never used to get spam on my .mac account until about 2 months ago. Suddenly I started gettign 10-20 a day, now it's more. Nearly all are strings of random gibberish and a link. Some come from other .mac addresses.

I'm extremely careful where I use my .mac address, use a hotmail one wherever I'm not sure if it's cool.
post #24 of 43
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I wouldn't at all be surprised if AI sold our e-mail addresses, actually...

Kasper and the MacNN monkeys might be doing this. I hear they'll do anything for a quick buck. I can promise everyone that the rest of the forum staff and I are not, though.

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Never use a personal e-mail address that you want "clean" to register for anything.
post #25 of 43
I just wanted to say that my .Mac address is getting bombarded suddenly as well. It's way out of hand. It's been like that for about 2 weeks, or so. And I don't do the whole net pr0n thing either. It's just there every day. Especially those stupid penile enlargement pills
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post #26 of 43
Funny. Mine hasn't been too bad lately. Just about 5 emails today. I'm sure it'll pick up...
post #27 of 43
Holy repeating what I already said in this thread Batman!

No spam for me.
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post #28 of 43
no spam for me on my ancient iTools/.mac account that i have used for just about every message board/required email for the past few years...
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post #29 of 43
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Originally posted by dviant

They are also being sent with no ADV in the subject line, and half the opt-outs are 404. I've been forwarding all these to abuse@mac.com and hope Apple is working to do something about it,

It is not apples problem, it is and for at least 2 years has been common knoledge that opt-outs are bogus,


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post #30 of 43
I don't have any spam coming into my email. I use it for personal only. I make sure people don't forward things to me. My other half is getting spam, not alot, but she gets forwards from people all the time...I'd say tell your buddies to knock it off. It's not .mac's problem...
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post #31 of 43
History repeated itself again..
In the past 12 hrs... I have already received more than 20 spams. Typically less then 10/day.


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post #32 of 43
You need to work on your photoshop skills, I can read 90% of the items you tried to blur out!!!!
post #33 of 43
I signed up for a .mac account as soon as they were available and have never gotten any spam, but starting yesterday my address has been hijacked and used as the return address to send what appears to be viruses to other .mac users. I have gotten 4 bounced emails that where addressed to hundreds of other .mac users. Not only don't I know how they got my address since I am very protective of it, but I also don't know how they got a list of other .mac users to send email to. Also I wonder about the attachments. There are 3 different ones in the 4 emails. I have not opened any of them, but if they are just windows viruses why send them to .mac users? I have sent email to Apple about this, but only got one canned response so far. This kind of crap is really annoying and if not brought under control will really be the downfall of email as we know it.
post #34 of 43
I've seen an increase in .Mac spam recently... not only that, but Mail.app seems to have stopped tagging this crap as Junk. I've reset it to training mode-- doesn't help.

In fact, Mail at home (Panther) and Work (Jaguar) both refuse to recognize the spam.

Weird. In all the years I've used them, I've never had a problem with .Mac/Mail before-- and it's always been my forum/crapcatcher addy.
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post #35 of 43
Yeah, spammers are finding ways around the baysian filters that Mail uses. E-mail really will go the way of the dinosaurs at this pace.
post #36 of 43
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Originally posted by Kenneth
History repeated itself again..
In the past 12 hrs... I have already received more than 20 spams. Typically less then 10/day.


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post #37 of 43
There's a thumbnail of Kenneth posing nude hiding in that file, as well. Sick dude!
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post #38 of 43
occasionally I get spam that crashes Entourage. I just got one from 'slbaz@pcmail.com.tw' that continually crashed/quit Entourage. I had to go to .mac webmail to delete it.
post #39 of 43
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Thats sweet. Thanks DanMacMan.
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