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Clinton did nothing? Do you really need someone to explain it?


giant, BC had 8 years to shut the barn door. GWB had 8 months. If you don't count the madmen already in-country he never had a chance.

P.J. O'Rourke said the Congress is a parliment of whores---and in a democracy that makes us the whores.

What is eluding you and others that to try to explain away the culpability of our government, those who want to give Carter, Reagan, Bush I, and BC a pass, while using 3,000 corpses to get rid of an EO you don't politically care for is this:

...we are the whores.

We did this.

Groupthink kills.

A country coked out of its mind every weekend (my apologies to the THC, XTC, amphetamine, and LSD fans), too intent on their next credit card purchase, next sportfu<k to care about what their representitives are doing, let alone get a mouthfull of the political *** that runs this country.......

...have NO business critising their leaders, except to be used by others----or for pure entertianment value.

And that's the pure and simple truth. My apologies to Oscar Wilde.

In our desire to impose form on the world we have lost the capacity to see the form that is there;
and in that lies not liberation but alienation, the cutting off from things as they really are. --...

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In our desire to impose form on the world we have lost the capacity to see the form that is there;
and in that lies not liberation but alienation, the cutting off from things as they really are. --...

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post #402 of 402
Let me be more clear giant. I really respect the work and significant time that you spend reasearching these things out. I think you are intelligent, and have an analytical mind.

But.

You are something of a "humanist" (insert non-believing type, pagan, Atheist, pluralist, Agnostic, etc. here). As a "humanist" you are under a compulsion to seek an integrated existence in the "one".

Essentially, the state holds meaning for you. On an essential, basic, level the state orders and reorders your world. It has the answers to moral problems (or it should--or is working towards them) and if it does not, it holds the promise of an eventual salvation, through improved scientific theory, more data, etc.

9/11 was much more traumatic for a humanist than for a Christian. For you, giant, the state (or man's collective understanding) has failed you horribly. Since the state is the final answer in controlling human experiece---and cannot in its essence be flawed---some PERSON must have screwed up the system.

A witch hunt ensues, not unlike the denouncements of China, and the purges of Stalin.

Hey! It's not the system---it's GOT to be incompetitence or WORSE sabotage!!!

Round up the usual suspects!!

Giant, we could have had 25 low-orbit chemical laser platforms focused on Manhattan, and the Pentagon, with omniscience, and omnipresence, and a Partidge in a Pear tree---what you do not believe or understand is that these things are in the hand of God---"our times are in Thy hands."

Find Mr. Groupthink and put him in front of that showtri....er hearing table.

From JMH:

A little indian brave who before he was ten,
Played wargames in the woods with his indian friends
And he built up a dream that when he grew up
He would be a fearless warrior indian cheif
Many moons past and more the dream grew strong until
Tomorrow he would sing his first warsong and fight his first battle
But something went wrong, surprise attack killed him in his sleep that night




And so castles made of sand melts into the sea, eventually..............

In our desire to impose form on the world we have lost the capacity to see the form that is there;
and in that lies not liberation but alienation, the cutting off from things as they really are. --...

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In our desire to impose form on the world we have lost the capacity to see the form that is there;
and in that lies not liberation but alienation, the cutting off from things as they really are. --...

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