Well, the thread is firmly back on "all creationists are complete idiots" footing. Great.
You are all dodging the key issue here with no small skill; 1st class rehtoric---I must admit--to give the devil his due.
Originally posted by billybobsky
What systems exactly are dependent solely on the baleen of a whale? Baleen whales can probably still be fed fish if their baleen has been removed, so what is your point? What creationist fail to understand is that there is a great deal of redundancy in all of our systems.
There is alot systemically invested in the Baleen, humback lunge feeding, EFFICIANCY [a critical factor] of feeding in that manner, etc. I actually think there one whale that "roots" on the sea floor for shellfish and has baleen. *checks google* its a gray whale "130-180 overlapping rows of baleen the fray into the hairs that trap bottom crud for food."
If you removed this whale's baleen you would disrupt everything associated with it's feeding habits.
I'm assuming you all think that we "started" with a small, prototype whale-like creature(?) that "slowly" developed what?---teeth, and then baleen? baleen and then teeth? no teeth? no mouth? no navigation systems? no sense to locate food? You have to start WITHOUT any and ALL of these interdependent systems and build them into the cretaure, one at a time---one "mutation" at a time. Assuming you have started with a prototype that works---a circular assumption, in and of itself.
This is not a problem? You DO NOT see mutations adding nifty features to animals. You DO see screwed up conflagrations of misapplided DNA, you DO see fantastic uses and adaptablility of existing DNA---and a huge amount of speciation.
All of which is running down, DNA getting torn up through exposure to the elements, with more and more introduced error, generation, by generation, by generation.
You guys want MILLIONS of years of immaculate DNA building itself into pinnacles of design---constantly beeing weeded out for even better designs that "just happen" to elbow their way into both the physical stucture of the creature and the DNA molecule itself.
What BLOWS ME AWAY is that you want TENS OF MILLIONS of species of flora and fauna doing this---not only in concert and harmony with each other, but you want this HYSTERICALLY improbable scheme to happen in only several hundred million years. The amount of faith it takes to stomach something this illogical and improbable is considerable. A couple of buttons short of a keyboard.
You have great faith in the completly improbable---I respect your decsion--I think it's dead wrong---creation is telling you something quite different, but that's your decsion.