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From the dictionary

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Se·mit·ic ( P ) Pronunciation Key (s-mtk)
adj.

1. Of or relating to the Semites or their languages or cultures.
2. Of, relating to, or constituting a subgroup of the Afro-Asiatic language group that includes Arabic, Hebrew, Amharic, and Aramaic.


n.

1. The Semitic languages.
2. Any one of the Semitic languages.

Sem·ite ( P ) Pronunciation Key (smt)
n.

1. A member of a group of Semitic-speaking peoples of the Near East and northern Africa, including the Arabs, Arameans, Babylonians, Carthaginians, Ethiopians, Hebrews, and Phoenicians.
2. A Jew.
3. Bible. A descendant of Shem.

Can anti-semitic can also mean anti-arabic? or are Jews too important for the word to mean anything else? \
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Originally posted by sammi jo
Ridiculous? The IDF bulldozers often operate at night, while Palestinian homeowners are sleeping.

Yes, these would be those "stealth bulldozers". The ones that are impossible to hear in the middle of the night as they approach a particular "house" at a whopping 15 mph with giant floodlights a blazing to light the way. Those? Lemme guess, you also heard they drive these "silent bulldozers" with night goggles so they don't have to use the lights?

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And how are they safe at home against tank rounds, automatic weapons, and missiles launched from a distance?

The Darwin criteria would suggest you don't house terrorists in your domicile, lest you risk getting caught in their crossfire. Oh, you say they are not allowed to leave? They are captives? I guess their "guests" have doomed them, no?

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Why should it be so unsafe to take part in a protest in your home town?

Cuz it's the Middle East? I guess even 20/20 hindsight isn't enough to give these people a clue. It's also logically unsafe to bum-rush a tank batallion.

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And why would people marching in the streets be the targets of bombs or missiles?

Exactly. There's more to this story. Unfortunately, some readers prefer to only gleen the details that support their agenda, instead of waiting for the complete report of the events to really find out what went down there.

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For an answer, perhaps ask the relatives of the Israeli folk who have been blown up in restaurants and on buses. Same deal. Both sides use terrorist methods.

Let the record show that SJO honestly believes the Israeli military actively target civilians to which to expend their ammunition.

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One side happens to do it with a high tech military paid for by we the US taxpayer, and the other side with a bunch of desperate rag tags with nothing left to lose.

Yes, must be that simple...

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The protesters were just doing that, protesting. From what we know, they were not firing at the Israeli aircaft

It's questionable what we do know vs. what we are fed. Either side you choose to be on, there are sources of severe misinformation.
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I have an orthodox ruling to clear up the confusion. According to Rabbi Dov Lior it's ok to kill civilians (my bold):

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Rabbi Dov Lior, chairman of the settlers rabbinical council ruled that killing civilians during warfare is permitted if it will save lives.

The IDF are allowed to hurt so called innocent civilians during warfare, Chairman of the Yesha rabbinical council (Judea, Samaria and Gaza Strip), Rabbi Dov Lior, said in a Halachic (Jewish law) ruling made public Wednesday.

"The law of our Torah is to have mercy on our soldiers and to save them. This is the real moral behind Israel's Torah and we must not feel guilty due to foreign morals," Lior said.

The IDF is allowed to use all means at its disposal to defeat terrorism even if it means innocent people are killed, the sources said.

The religious community did not publicly condemn Rabbi Liors ruling.

I think this applies when it's Israelis doing the killing though - it's obviously not ok for anyone else to kill civilians whether to save 'so-called innocent lives' or not.

And that's not racist. No, definitely not. Hope that clears up any misunderstandings - it's all ok. Move along - nothing to see.....
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Originally posted by Randycat99
I'd say the Darwin criterias should be applicable here.

Why wouldn't you allow the Darwin criteria to apply for Israelis as well? Because you're a racist. Congratulations.
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Originally posted by segovius
I have an orthodox ruling to clear up the confusion. According to Rabbi Dov Lior it's ok to kill civilians (my bold):



I think this applies when it's Israelis doing the killing though - it's obviously not ok for anyone else to kill civilians whether to save 'so-called innocent lives' or not.

And that's not racist. No, definitely not. Hope that clears up any misunderstandings - it's all ok. Move along - nothing to see.....

ok, that's comforting. Listen everybody, the rabbi said it's ok.

In other news condi accidentally called bush her husband in an interview... how about that? anyone think there is someyhing going on?
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Originally posted by Scott
Wow such harsh words for the Jewish state SJO. What do you say about Arafat, Hamas, IJ and the rest. Nothing? Next time a bomb blows up a bus full of kids in Israel run straight here and post about how the arab terrorists need to stop the "cycle of violence" and how they're methods only creates a thousand more Sharons and that the "madness needs to end" and other useless slogans that are only trotted out for the Jewish state.

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Dude, Scott, you're like living in an alternate universe where everyone is partisan except you.

In case you still don't get it, the difference is that although both Hamas and the current Jewish government are clearly terrorist organizations, the US is only giving money and weapons to one of them. The US is only supporting one of them. The US is only condemning one of them (and when I say US I mean every US administration, including Clinton). That's why we people feel the need to speak out when we see such injustice. Justice would be for ALL terrorists, Sharon and Arafat alike, to be treated equally.

The only explanation I can gather is that you do not see firing missiles at a crowd of mostly innocent people as a terrorist act IF those people happen to be Muslim. It does appear that in your mind, "Middle Eastern Muslim" = "terrorist" and all such are guilty until proven innocent, with death as their rightful punishment. You, sir, appear to be far more bigoted than any here whom you've so repeatedly been calling anti-semitic.
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Originally posted by Randycat99
I'd say the Darwin criterias should be applicable here.

I can see this makes for a great argument in the decision of past and future disputes.
Taking a bus in Israel and being blown sky-high by some Palestinian madman wearing a belt of explosives? Your fault. The darwinian instinct could have told you not to...

Does anyone here work in a skyscraper in the US, per chance? What about 9/11 firefighters? Heros or fools? Thanks to Randycat we now know the answer. Pass the message to their widows, will you?

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post #48 of 260
Well, the UN security council just condemned the massacre (the US abstained, but did not veto).

So, Scot and Randycat, is the security council now officially anti-semitic? They clearly did send a one-sided message here - focused on a single incident. No lame excuses based on some darwinian hogwash either, as far as I can tell.

Israel, with a sense of humor, killed five more palestinians in response - just to give the UN the stink finger, I presume.
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Didn't want to get into yet-another bashing contest, but this article from Yahoo (Associated Press) pushed me into it. Here are some quotes from

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...d=540&ncid=716


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Nabil Abu Rdeneh, a senior aide to Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat (news - web sites), welcomed the U.S. abstention and called on the U.S. government to "force Israel to accept international forces here to protect the Palestinian people."

Israel appeared unconcerned about the U.S. vote. Raanan Gissin, an aide to Prime Minister Ariel Sharon (news - web sites), attributed the abstention to the "delicate situation in which the United States finds itself today."

European leaders sharply criticized Israel but the United States stopped short of condemning the attack.

"I continue to urge restraint," President Bush (news - web sites) told reporters in Washington. "It is essential that people respect innocent life in order for us to achieve peace."

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The fighting has revived debate inside Israel on its continued presence in Gaza. Sharon has proposed withdrawing from the volatile area, but his Likud Party rejected the proposal earlier this month. Sharon has pledged to push forward with his plan.

In a statement Wednesday, the White House statement said Wednesday's deaths "serve as a grim reminder of the wisdom" of Israel pulling out of Gaza.

Can Israel please share some of the crack it is supplying to the junkies in the white house? It seems to working wonders.
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post #50 of 260
New! You didn't answer my question. Why no thread when the arab muslims are parading around with a bag full of body parts of the Jews they have killed. Where's you condemnation then?
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Originally posted by Scott
New! You didn't answer my question. Why no thread when the arab muslims are parading around with a bag full of body parts of the Jews they have killed. Where's you condemnation then?

I don't equate killing soldiers in an armed conflict with firing tank and helicopter shells at civilian demonstrators.

But for you especially: Parading bodyparts is against international law. killing armed soldiers isn't. The guilty persons should be punished accordingly. In a court. probably with a fine or prison.

BTW, how do you know that all of those soldiers were jews? There are other ethnic groups in the IDF too. You do know that?
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Maybe? How 'bout the next time a bomb goes off in the Jewish state you run straight to your computer and post a thread bemoaning the endless cycle of violence that the arab muslims are instigating and wax on about how Arafat and IJ and Hamas and most other arab countries are trying to destabilize the region and what a horrible violation of international law it is and how the UN needs to pass a resolution against it and on and on.
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Originally posted by Scott
Maybe? How 'bout the next time a bomb goes off in the Jewish state you run straight to your computer and post a thread bemoaning the endless cycle of violence that the arab muslims are instigating and wax on about how Arafat and IJ and Hamas and most other arab countries are trying to destabilize the region and what a horrible violation of international law it is and how the UN needs to pass a resolution against it and on and on.

so the next time a bomb goes of in israel, it's the fault of every Arab (as loong as he is a muslim)?
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Originally posted by Scott
Why no thread when the arab muslims are parading around with a bag full of body parts of the Jews they have killed.

So start one already. If you see an injustice going on that others here might not be aware of, feel free to bring it to our attention.

The thing is, I guarantee that you won't find a single person on these boards trying to defend a Palestinian terrorist who has just murdered a group of innocent civilians.
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Originally posted by New
BTW, how do you know that all of those soldiers were jews? There are other ethnic groups in the IDF too. You do know that?

He's too blindly racist to acknowledge that fact.
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The worst about this latest atrocity is that the Israeli military deliberately mowed down kids. According to the Daily Telegraph, one of the UK's most conservative national dailies, this was a children's march, godammit.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;$sessionid$TTP5WWJFKPQ0RQFIQMGSFF4AVCBQWIV0?xml=/news/2004/05/20/wmid20.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/05/20/ixnewstop.html
Does it surprise me that the psychopathic Bush administration tacitly supports this kind of state run terrorism and murder by Israel (in contrast to the universal global condemnation) by abstaining in the UN security councils resolution? Not one bit. Anything the Israelis do is OK with them. If Sharon nuked Damascus or Teheran on a whim, Bush and company would probably be OK with that also.

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post #57 of 260
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Originally posted by sammi jo
The worst about this latest atrocity is that the Israeli military deliberately mowed down kids. According to the Daily Telegraph, one of the UK's most conservative national dailies, this was a children's march, godammit.



Children's march with big brothers with guns.

Don't want to rock the boat sammi jo but we aren't there and the stories coming to us are varied...this is a typical sick cycle of events...over and over and over...they can all go to their religious forms of "paradise" as far as I'm concerned. I'm going to find a job, get back to living and they can all go fuck themselves.

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Originally posted by sammi jo
The worst about this latest atrocity is that the Israeli military deliberately mowed down kids. According to the Daily Telegraph, one of the UK's most conservative national dailies, this was a children's march, godammit.

Sammi....so upset at childrens deaths...never upset when they are jewish children though..you know, the ones always on the buses that explode?

Yes, this is a pretty horrible incident. Too bad people on this thread only feel it is horrible enough to discuss when it is Arab who have died. Yes, I know, all violence is the ME is bad, yet you all seem to only get riled up about it when it is acts of violence from the jewish state. I can't remember ever seeing SJo post link after repetitive link regarding the evils and corruption of the PA. I haven't seen NEW start a thread about the loss of Jewish women and childen, having their throats cut in their homes. Bunge has yet to get into a heated arguement decrying the busloads of jews killed every year. Sure, these people may throw in the occasional "boy, that was awful" or "well, the wasn't nice" but it's always with conditions. "well, that was awful that a busload of jews got blown up again...damn Sharon..He is to blame"


Scott has said as much, but of course you all just dismiss it as extremist rantings. Easy to brush it off a rationalise your onesided views. But, perhaps scott is right. perhaps for some, but not all, you views are based on a hatred of jews, perhaps not even a hatred you acknoledge to yourself. It wasn't too long ago I remember reading about another incident where every one jumping up and down about an act involving Irsael. At the time I think it was said that it was due to "typical jewish arrogance". Realistically, that statement could be assigned to many of you and you wouldn't flinch.

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post #59 of 260
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Originally posted by talksense101
Didn't want to get into yet-another bashing contest, but this article from Yahoo (Associated Press) pushed me into it. Here are some quotes from

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...d=540&ncid=716
Can Israel please share some of the crack it is supplying to the junkies in the white house? It seems to working wonders.

"Israel apologized for the deaths, saying its troops did not deliberately fire on marchers. A preliminary army investigation concluded that a warning shot fired by a tank flew through a building and hit the crowd, security sources said on condition of anonymity."

Ah...they are learning from us...if all else fails use the "Magic Bullet Theory".

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" Israel also blamed the Palestinians, saying gunmen infiltrated the crowd of about 3,000 people protesting the incursion into the Rafah refugee camp. Witnesses denied militants were among the marchers, and Palestinian leaders denounced the incident as a massacre."

Ooop. My bad. They're both asshats...



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Some people posting in this thread refuse to recognize that it is never legal to fire tank rounds into a crowd of people, even if they have guns.
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Originally posted by bunge
Some people posting in this thread refuse to recognize that it is never legal to fire tank rounds into a crowd of people, even if they have guns.

Don't put me in that group. Or I'll get my tank after you.

/allthisisgoingnowhereagain

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Poor examples.

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I can see this makes for a great argument in the decision of past and future disputes.
Taking a bus in Israel and being blown sky-high by some Palestinian madman wearing a belt of explosives? Your fault. The darwinian instinct could have told you not to...

Does the bomber step on the bus with the "Palestinian madman" outfit with belt explosives fully exposed? I'm pretty sure they don't, and if they did, they'd be pretty stupid to follow him into the same bus just to get to their destination. So yes, there is an applicable Darwin element there. The reality, however, is that the bombers don't announce their intentions beforehand. There is no "context" to respond to. The other bus passengers are not in a protest nor are they deliberately approaching an armed battalion with harmful intent. They are simply riding in a freakin' bus.

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Does anyone here work in a skyscraper in the US, per chance? What about 9/11 firefighters? Heros or fools? Thanks to Randycat we now know the answer. Pass the message to their widows, will you?

It was their duty to save people. They know well beforehand that their lives will be at risk while doing what they do. They also don't bring along "children" in their squad while performing their duties. They also don't rush into a burning structure that is clearly about to collapse. They do have an idea of when the risk is manageable to enter a structure, when it is necessary to pullback, and when it is best to not enter at all. They are heros. Only you could actually be uncertain on this.

Question is, who is a protestor directly "saving" by marching toward an armed battle unit? Was it wise to bring along women and children in their demonstration? What did they hope to accomplish other than become fodder for the media feeding fest?

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The devil is in the details. You won't get far just by reacting to sensationalist newspaper headlines.
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Originally posted by Artman @_@
" Israel also blamed the Palestinians, saying gunmen infiltrated the crowd of about 3,000 people protesting the incursion into the Rafah refugee camp. Witnesses denied militants were among the marchers, and Palestinian leaders denounced the incident as a massacre."

Ooop. My bad. They're both asshats...



Could you please post the source of this picture?
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Originally posted by New
Could you please post the source of this picture?

A photojournalist at the march...no, wait...I photoshopped it. The whole damn situation in the Middle East was photoshopped. Didn't you know that?

Find it yourself.

You can start here...but be warned the images are graphic.

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Originally posted by Artman @_@
A photojournalist at the march...no, wait...I photoshopped it. The whole damn situation in the Middle East was photoshopped. Didn't you know that?

Find it yourself.

You can start here...but be warned the images are graphic.


hey, relax smokey!
I wanted the source since these picures have not surfaced in regular israeli sources, and I wanted a cofirmation that they are actually from this incident.

Several sources are claiming that there were no armed men in the dmonstration.
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Excellent photosite. But... I can't seem to find that picture...
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Can't find it either - and the photos of Rafah (10 plus pages and 10-20 or so a page) seem to be not all from the demo/last few days.

In fact I think it seems too be a photo pool where only the first page or so relates to the incident afaict.

Great site though - the pic of 5 year old junior in Brooklyn on the homepage is incredible.
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Originally posted by Tulkas
I haven't seen NEW start a thread about the loss of Jewish women and childen, having their throats cut in their homes.

That argument works both ways.

The deaths of israeli children is just as horrible as the death of palestinian children. Just as illeagal and unjust.

But I have to wonder. If I lived in Gaza, I would fear for my children. I would try to get away from there in any way I could.

What on earth makes someone bring their children willingly into a war-zone like Gaza?
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[B]Sammi....so upset at childrens deaths...never upset when they are jewish children though..you know, the ones always on the buses that explode?

Sorry to rain on your preconceptions, but go check the AO archives on this subject. As I pointed out earlier on, I have railed harsher against Hamas, Islamic Jihad terror groups than the Israeli equivalent. Perhaps someone needs to speak out for the Palestinian kids....the media ignores them, as if they are lesser humans than Israeli kids. Perhaps it's because their religion is "incorrect", so their lives aren't worth it.

Humans are humans, life is life, favoritism be damned.
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A hip drag queen and
a side-walkin' street wheeler,
Comin' down the avenue.
They're all your friends,
you'll come to love 'em
There's a load of 'em
waitin' for you.

Lookout Jo, you're comin' home.
Old times were good times,
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Remember Millie
from down in Philly?
She took my brain
and forgot my name.
The woman you were with
was about the same
She took your money and left town.

Lookout Jo, you're comin' home.
Old times were good times,
Old times were good times.

Glory Hallelujah!
Will I lay my burden down?
Singin' on the streets around:
Look at that crazy clown.

Remember Bill from up on the hill?
A Cadillac put a hole in his arm.
But old Bill, he's up there still,
Havin' a ball
rollin' to the bottom.

Lookout Jo, you're comin' home.
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Originally posted by New
so the next time a bomb goes of in israel, it's the fault of every Arab (as loong as he is a muslim)?


Just drop what you are doing and post a thread here in AO. Go on and on about the "cycle of violence" that the arab muslims terrorist are propagating and how they are trying to "destabilize" the region and how the terrorist "madness needs to stop".
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Originally posted by bunge
He's too blindly racist to acknowledge that fact.

Talk about being banned? If you're not at the top of the list I don't know why should be there.
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Originally posted by Tulkas
Sammi....so upset at childrens deaths...never upset when they are jewish children though..you know, the ones always on the buses that explode?

Yes, this is a pretty horrible incident. Too bad people on this thread only feel it is horrible enough to discuss when it is Arab who have died. Yes, I know, all violence is the ME is bad, yet you all seem to only get riled up about it when it is acts of violence from the jewish state. I can't remember ever seeing SJo post link after repetitive link regarding the evils and corruption of the PA. I haven't seen NEW start a thread about the loss of Jewish women and childen, having their throats cut in their homes. Bunge has yet to get into a heated arguement decrying the busloads of jews killed every year. Sure, these people may throw in the occasional "boy, that was awful" or "well, the wasn't nice" but it's always with conditions. "well, that was awful that a busload of jews got blown up again...damn Sharon..He is to blame"


Scott has said as much, but of course you all just dismiss it as extremist rantings. Easy to brush it off a rationalise your onesided views. But, perhaps scott is right. perhaps for some, but not all, you views are based on a hatred of jews, perhaps not even a hatred you acknoledge to yourself. It wasn't too long ago I remember reading about another incident where every one jumping up and down about an act involving Irsael. At the time I think it was said that it was due to "typical jewish arrogance". Realistically, that statement could be assigned to many of you and you wouldn't flinch.

Geesus, do I hear an echo in here?

Let me repeat by quoting myself:

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In case you still don't get it, the difference is that although both Hamas and the current Jewish government are clearly terrorist organizations, the US is only giving money and weapons to one of them. The US is only supporting one of them. The US is only condemning one of them (and when I say US I mean every US administration, including Clinton). That's why we people feel the need to speak out when we see such injustice. Justice would be for ALL terrorists, Sharon and Arafat alike, to be treated equally.
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Perhaps someone needs to speak out for the Palestinian kids....the media ignores them, as if they are lesser humans than Israeli kids.

The only thing the media ignores about those kids their involvement in the intifada. Arafat decried a few years ago that pictures of Palestinian children carrying guns and bomb belts hurt their image in liberal Europe. So, the media, eager to obey, ignores those stories and pictures.

You are right, those children shouldn't have died. And the peaceful demonstration shoudldn't have included armed members.

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Lauren Sanchez? That kinda hotness is just plain unnatural.
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Originally posted by tonton
Geesus, do I hear an echo in here?

Let me repeat by quoting myself:
In case you still don't get it, the difference is that although both Hamas and the current Jewish government are clearly terrorist organizations, the US is only giving money and weapons to one of them. The US is only supporting one of them. The US is only condemning one of them (and when I say US I mean every US administration, including Clinton). That's why we people feel the need to speak out when we see such injustice. Justice would be for ALL terrorists, Sharon and Arafat alike, to be treated equally.

The Jewish goventment is not a terrorist organisation. They are acting as any other govenment would, faced with a population within their borders and surrounded by nations bent of destroying them.

As far as funding, who cares who is funding them. If not for US funding, their would be no Israel. And as much as that concept may please some here, it would involve the "liquidation of the zionist presence." Many palestinian groups are well sponsored by Europe. Europe is only condemning one side. Europe is only suporting one side. So, shouldn't that make people feel the need to speak out when they see injustice?

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...sometimes it's both
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"My 8th grade math teacher once said: "You can't help it if you're dumb, you are born that way. But stupid is self inflicted."" -Hiro. 

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I wonder how many AI members here would participate in an "adopt a Palestinian family" program. If you wish for them to have a home, you can finally enable that wish- let them share yours! Then you can post back here to let us know what wonderful housemates they are turning out to be...

Hmmm...maybe I should write my liberal congressman/woman about this idea!
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I wonder how many AI members here would participate in an "adopt a Palestinian family" program. If you wish for them to have a home, you can finally enable that wish- let them share yours! Then you can post back here to let us know what wonderful housemates they are turning out to be...

Hmmm...maybe I should write my liberal congressman/woman about this idea!

ah... haha... I get it... ethnic cleansing... grrrrweat idea...

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Randycat, FYI, My palestinian friends are excellent people. Their hospitality are only rivaled by my american friends. ;-)
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