Originally posted by Groovy
just how much did you leave out? (really I'm curious what comes with that and what does not)
The only reason I tossed those components together for an example was because of the uninformed post that rudely said you cannot build a dual-Opteron system with a DVD-R drive, 160GB hard drive, 512MB RAM, video card, case and power supply could not be made for $1000 - $1300, and that anyone who said otherwise was a PC troll living in la-la land.
Remember - I went on in my post to say that you should never compare home built PCs to Macs. That being said, I'll try to answer your questions.
OS? does that even come with XP? or do you have to BUY it?
Do you get ANY software with that? like all the apps that come with OSX?
For an OS I would use Linux (or BSD). For applications, here are a few, but there are a lot more free apps that I would download: GNOME, Gimp, OpenOfffice, Apache web server, MySQL, Mozilla, WINE, LAME, Xmms, DivX Video, CDR-Toaster, Kino, Cinelerra, Blinder, Bluefish, Gnumeric, Rubrica 2, GNOME-PIM, MagicPoint
Keyboard and mouse - forgot them, add on another $50.00
Bluetooth, Firewire 800: and Modem: No.
Gigabit ethernet, fans, and 400 Watt power supply: Yes.
8X DVD A107 burner which ships with ALL G5 duals now (that Lite-on is NOT an 8X burner)
*sigh* Who cares? This was not a Mac vs PC comparison. But it does write DVD+R at 8X -- Lite-On DVD-RW/+RW Drive, Model LDW-811S/ 851S, Retail $79.00 (Write Speed: 8X DVD+R, 4X DVD-R, 4X DVD+RW, 2X DVD-RW, 40X CD-R, 24X CD-RW Read Speed: 40X CD-ROM, 12X DVD-ROM).
And for only $19 more you can get a 12X writer
Artec DVD+/-RW Drive, Model VOM-12E48X, Retail $97.99
(Write Speed: 12X DVD+R, 4X DVD+RW, 8X DVD-R, 4X DVD-RW, 40X CD-R, 24X CD-RWRead Speed: 40X CD-ROM, 12X DVD-ROM)
How fast are the CPUs? (are those 1.4 or 1.8?)
The Opteron 242 is clocked at 1.6GHz
what about quality? do you care about quality at all? All my PC's
i have owned broke down quicker than my macs.
Besideds the point, but thats why I always prefer to build PC rather then buy whole systems -- you know you are putting in quality parts and not some of the cheap crap you get stuck with when you buy a pre-built system.
what is up with that lame video card? At least put the exact same one in both systems.
Both systems? There is no other system. I was responding to another post and showing that you can build a Dual Opteron for $1000 - $1300. Of course it is the card that comes with the single processor Powermac...
Since I only build PCs for gaming I have no desire to build a dual processor computer. This systems was thrown together as a quick example, I did not spend a lot of time trying to get the lowest prices (I used mostly retail parts), Nor did I try to make it as powerful as I could have. I just saw someone make a ludicrous and insulting statement and felt compelled to respond. It was in no way meant to be a comparison between Macs and Opterons.
Now back to our regularly scheduled topic.