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Force DVD into widescreen?

post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 
Is there any way to force a standard ratio letterboxed DVD to play at maximum width on a widescreen display?

You could do it in OS 9 by switching resolution while DVD player was active, but this never worked in OS X.

Maybe this can be done through an alternate DVD player app like VLC?

Considering the abundance of Mac models and Apple display models with widescreen orientation, this would appear to be a no-brainer. There are a lot of standard orientation letterboxed DVD titles around. Shouldn't there be a DVD player app that has such a feature built-in?
post #2 of 14
Thread Starter 
This is what I mean:

Code:


____________________________________________
|.....::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::.....|
|.....::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::.....|
|.....MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.....|
|.....MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.....|
|.....MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.....|
|.....MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.....|
|.....MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.....|
|.....MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.....|
|.....::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::.....|
|.....::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::.....|

This is what you currently get on a widescreen display. The "M" are the movie
data. The ":" are the letterbox bars (useless space). The "." are blank space.

This is what I want:

____________________________________________
|::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::|
|MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM|
|MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM|
|MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM|
|MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM|
|MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM|
|MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM|
|MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM|
|MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM|
|::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::|

Where the tops and bottoms of the useless letterbox bars are chopped off the
top and the bottom of the screen.



Why isn't there an easy way to do this?
post #3 of 14
The DVD's aren't Anamorphic (16x9 enhanced).
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post #4 of 14
VLC has a crop filter, and then u can full screen from there
not sure how well the filter works though.
if you manually set the demensions to crop it should work, that will take some tweaking. The auto setting does strange thigns to darker scenes
post #5 of 14
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally posted by Mac Write
The DVD's aren't Anamorphic (16x9 enhanced).

That's right. But I should still be able to force them into widescreen. All widescreen TV's can do tis, built-in.
post #6 of 14
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
VLC has a crop filter, and then u can full screen from there
not sure how well the filter works though.
if you manually set the demensions to crop it should work, that will take some tweaking. The auto setting does strange thigns to darker scenes

VLC in "Advanced" mode is just way too complex. Can someone explain such a procedure to me?

Edit: By George, I think I've got it!

Open Preferences window
Click "Video"
Turn on the "Advanced" option.
Scroll down
Choose "Crop Filter" in "Video Filter Module" pull-down menu
Expand "Modules" on sidebar
Expand "Video Filter" under "Modules"
Click "Crop"
Input "640x360" into the "Crop Geometry (pixels)" field
Click "save"

Now, I seem to have lost my audio in VLC completely. I think I'll need to restart. VLC is still buggy!!!
post #7 of 14
Thread Starter 
Apparently VLC can't playback audio on DVDs that have PCM audio.
I'll search for a fix. DVD Player.app can play it fine. Even MPlayer can play it back ok (albeit with lots of skipping).
post #8 of 14
I too would appreciate anamorphic widescreen support. This would increase the resolution on my TV when VGA is passed through an external scan converter.
post #9 of 14
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally posted by dfiler
I too would appreciate anamorphic widescreen support. This would increase the resolution on my TV when VGA is passed through an external scan converter.

The Mac OS X DVD Player.app has Anamorphic Widescreen support. What it doesn't have is standard-to-widescreen support.
post #10 of 14
Quote:
Originally posted by tonton
The Mac OS X DVD Player.app has Anamorphic Widescreen support. What it doesn't have is standard-to-widescreen support.

Really? How do you get it to output anamorphic widescreen? I've only seen masked widescreen output.
post #11 of 14
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally posted by dfiler
Really? How do you get it to output anamorphic widescreen? I've only seen masked widescreen output.

Okay... I just put an official anamorphic widescreen DVD into my TiBook to test this, and here's exactly what happened:

Put the DVD in. DVD Player.app launched automatically.
DVD started, and after various warnings and logos, menu appears, in 4:3.
Click on "Play feature" and the picture immediately changes to widescreen orientation, and the movie plays in widescreen.
post #12 of 14
I see what you're saying. Unfortunately, that's not what I'm looking for.

I'd like widescreen output, not 4:3 output with masking bars. That way, when outputing to a widescreen capable device, vertical resolution wouldn't be wasted on black bars. With my scan converter I have relatively low resolution output via S-video. By outputing anamorphic widescreen, all of the data sent over the interconnects would be for picture content.
post #13 of 14
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally posted by dfiler
I see what you're saying. Unfortunately, that's not what I'm looking for.

I'd like widescreen output, not 4:3 output with masking bars. That way, when outputing to a widescreen capable device, vertical resolution wouldn't be wasted on black bars. With my scan converter I have relatively low resolution output via S-video. By outputing anamorphic widescreen, all of the data sent over the interconnects would be for picture content.

There's a device you can get that will make this work. It can be as cheap as about $70. It's called a DVD player, and doesn't even need a computer to work!!!
post #14 of 14

(OS X 10.7.5) I thought I had this problem because the previews were giving me the black bars all around but once the actual movie started playing it expanded out to the edges. I'm using the DVD Player App version 5500.26.11.

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