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post #41 of 49
here's something funny to read... Ann Coulter on O'Reilly.

Apparently the facts are subjective for Ann.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,121262,00.html

Did you know that Iraq is going amazingly well according to Ann?
AND we found weapons of mass destruction... according to Ann.

Bill tries to walk her back from the cliff... but...
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post #42 of 49
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Originally posted by chu_bakka
here's something funny to read... Ann Coulter on O'Reilly.

Apparently the facts are subjective for Ann.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,121262,00.html

Did you know that Iraq is going amazingly well according to Ann?
AND we found weapons of mass destruction... according to Ann.

Bill tries to walk her back from the cliff... but...

Don't forget that Hardball interview where Coulter tries to say that George C Scott refused the Oscar because he was tired of the liberal media trying to tear down American heroes. Matthews sets her straight and actually quotes something from Scott's obit:

Quote:
MATTHEWS: Facts mean nothing to you, Ann.
CORN: In this movie he shoots down an airplane with a gun.
MATTHEWS: I?m glad you are not making movies, Ann Coulter. Thank you, David Corn, Andrew Grossman. Jesus.

Has Coulter even been on his show again?
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post #43 of 49
I bet the Shrub thinks the same way she does.
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post #44 of 49
The very existence of Ann Coulter, as a quasi-celebrity/pundit, puts the lie to the idea of a "liberal media".

I don't think the conservative posters on this board, blinkered as they are in regard to what actual progressive thought looks like, have any idea what kind of fire breathing socialist maniac it would take to achieve "balance" for Ann.

And. having put forth this standard bearer (who would be obliged to call for Bush's execution for treason, nationalization of the oil companies, and an immediate 50% reduction in the defense budget to even begin to match Coulter's extremism), we would have to see to it that they got a regular hearing on the various screaming head venues, and that they got to write op-ed pieces for real newspapers, and routinely make bizarre and semi-insane accusations about what conservatives are really about, maybe something along the lines of non-christian baby genocide or the idea of their penchant for war being an expression of their loathing for young men arising out of suppressed homo-erotic tension, and that they would generally not be laughed out of the building or incarcerated but keep getting invited back to repeat and elaborate on their spittle flecked invective.

When that entity is up and running, then we can talk about a liberal media.

And for the love of god don't start talking about Al Franken cause if you can't tell the difference you shouldn't be left unmonitored in your own home, much less be posting on the internet.
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post #45 of 49
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Originally posted by chu_bakka
here's something funny to read... Ann Coulter on O'Reilly.

Apparently the facts are subjective for Ann.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,121262,00.html

Did you know that Iraq is going amazingly well according to Ann?
AND we found weapons of mass destruction... according to Ann.

Bill tries to walk her back from the cliff... but...



She is UNBELIEVABLE!!!

..

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BTW . . . I look forward to setting you all straight on this 'truth' 'Facts' and discourse thing but Im too tired and have to get stuff done . .. see ya soon.
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post #46 of 49
"Since Vietnam, there was one attack on U.S. forces that inflicted a higher death toll than anything experienced since: 241 servicemen were killed in Beirut in 1983 when a suicide bomber from the Islamic group Hezbollah drove a truck full of explosives into their barracks."

Praise the Lord! There is some people out there that understand what all this is about! The War on Terror on the US (as far as an attack...surprise attack) started here. Right here.

We were sitting ducks too.

"Guidelines of Rules of Engagement for the USMC in Beirut in 1983:

1. When on the post, mobile or foot patrol, keep loaded magazine in weapon, bolt closed, weapon on safe, no round in the chamber.

2. Do not chamber a round unless told to do so by a commissioned officer unless you must act in immediate self-defense where deadly force is authorized.

3. Keep ammo for crew served weapons readily available but not loaded. Weapon is on safe.


4. Call local forces to assist in self-defense effort. Notify headquarters.

5. Use only minimum degree of force to accomplish any mission.

6. Stop the use of force when it is no longer needed to accomplish the mission.

7. If you receive effective hostile fire, direct your fire at the source. If possible, use friendly snipers.

8. Respect civilian property; do not attack it unless absolutely necessary to protect friendly forces.

9. Protect innocent civilians from harm.

10. Respect and protect recognized medical agencies such as Red Cross, Red Crescent, etc."

Iraq?

Now we have Iraqis (& I'd say a few AQ wannabees) who use this method of surprise attack as all the others have done (and do) to dirupt and kill anyone in their way. I think we're in a stalemate this is a whole new war...we can't keep burning out out troops this way...

The numbers show this.

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post #47 of 49
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Originally posted by chu_bakka
here's something funny to read... Ann Coulter on O'Reilly.

Apparently the facts are subjective for Ann.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,121262,00.html

Did you know that Iraq is going amazingly well according to Ann?
AND we found weapons of mass destruction... according to Ann.

Bill tries to walk her back from the cliff... but...

Actually Ann makes some really good points.

Quote:
O'REILLY: Our Fox correspondents in Baghdad won't go out of the hotel. That's not a good sign, Ann.

COULTER: I wouldn't go out of the hotel in Washington, D.C. This is the Middle East. This is a country that's been under a brutal dictator for 30 years, and on top of that, now they see ...

Hahaha... this is quite true. I know there are part of that city, and parts of most American cities where these reporters wouldn't walk out onto the streets.

Another...

Quote:
COULTER: I think that -- it was a bad thing, it's six malefactors in an army that is 1.4 million strong and if I hear about it again I'm going to leap out of my skin. This is the media trying to demoralize America. This is the new Tet Offensive.

This strikes true to me. We don't have a Kerry testifying about thousands of people commiting thousands of atrocities. But when you have 24 hours of news to fill, you rehash the same things over and over again.

But of course in keeping on the actual topic, the best thing about this is watching people who universal condemn both Fox News and O'Reily quote them as authoritative. Worse yet they aren't even quoting a news report, but a quasi-opinion, echo chamber, lying liar who does nothing but spin, spin, spin all day long. (At least that is their view when they disagree with the position)

If anything shows that facts are "subjective" for some, it is that.

Nick

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post #48 of 49
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She is UNBELIEVABLE!!!

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..

BTW . . . I look forward to setting you all straight on this 'truth' 'Facts' and discourse thing but Im too tired and have to get stuff done . .. see ya soon.

Yes pfflam, don't waste too much time on it. Remember I don't exist. I'm just a figment of your imagination created by you to justify your deep set fear of success. The hours you waste posting replies to me would have already lead you to a reality where you enjoy many more fruits for yoru labor. Instead your have limited yourself.

By the way, if you reply to this, you are just perpetuating your own delusion. I'd advise against it.

Nick

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post #49 of 49
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Originally posted by trumptman
Yes pfflam, don't waste too much time on it. Remember I don't exist. I'm just a figment of your imagination created by you to justify your deep set fear of success. The hours you waste posting replies to me would have already lead you to a reality where you enjoy many more fruits for yoru labor. Instead your have limited yourself.

By the way, if you reply to this, you are just perpetuating your own delusion. I'd advise against it.

Nick

Well, you 'proved' one thing: namely your nightmare status.
"They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."
--George W Bush

"Narrative is what starts to happen after eight minutes
--Franklin Miller.

"Nothing...

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--George W Bush

"Narrative is what starts to happen after eight minutes
--Franklin Miller.

"Nothing...

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