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post #161 of 437
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Originally posted by johnq
So, some of the "people won't want to buy and download movies like they do songs in iTMS" insistence that many people espouse just doesn't add up to me. Sounds more like the familiar "Hey, I'm getting my music for free with this Napster thing, why buy music on iTunes" from a few years ago.

The time is definitely now or soon to want to have an iMovie Video Store (iVideo Movie Store? ) in place. Yes, there needs to be a radically Apple-ified, kickass, for lack of a better phrase, "TiVO killer".

the argument against it that i've heard in the past still holds true. the cost to manufacture a dvd compared to a cd is reasonably close. but the cost to upload a dvd compared to a cd is astronomically OUT of favor for any vendor that has to pay for their bandwidth. people can download limewire copies of movies from other individuals because they don't pay for their bandwidth. nearly all of us on broadband have unlimited upload. in order to make an iFlicks Movie Store viable, the prices would be higher than the cost of the dvd itself.
post #162 of 437
Ok but I still think this leads not to brickier WIFiPods but more a keyboardless/tablet thingy and/or a separate iPod-like remote (no HD, merely WIFI control of remote playlists) but that there won't be actual WIFI enabled regular and mini iPods.

Ok, WIFiPods. We both have one. I have a song that you don't. And I want to listen to that playlist you played at the party again. Now neither of us can actually copy the music from the other's iPod due to DRM. So we stream. What, are we both standing? Sitting? I need to be in range for the duration of you streaming off my iPod? Now, can I also listen to music on my own iPod while this is happening? Or am I stuck listening to what you are hearing? Additionally, can I simultaneously stream music from your iPod? Is what I'm playing the only outgoing stream?

I simply don't see the utility. Just switch each others iPods and skip WIFI. I guess one to many iPod streams might be cool but again, why exactly will there be multiple individuals ignoring eachother with headphones whilsts stream from eachother's iPods? Sounds like one of those lame blind date techno trends like where everyone can blackberry text any stranger in the room, or when everyone has beepers and needs to pair up with whoever beeped them.

Or I'm old.
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post #163 of 437
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Originally posted by admactanium
the argument against it that i've heard in the past still holds true. the cost to manufacture a dvd compared to a cd is reasonably close. but the cost to upload a dvd compared to a cd is astronomically OUT of favor for any vendor that has to pay for their bandwidth. people can download limewire copies of movies from other individuals because they don't pay for their bandwidth. nearly all of us on broadband have unlimited upload. in order to make an iFlicks Movie Store viable, the prices would be higher than the cost of the dvd itself.

Unless Apple/studios used the Bit Torrent approach (or similar) to serve the movies.

Considering a bought movie on iMovie Store (whatever) would go for 9.99 for regular length movies, I would assume that for Apple, sending ~4.7GB of data doesn't cost $9.99 each time. What might it cost?

If giganews charges $99.99 for 100GB/year that would be equivalent to about 20 movies or so. Myself, I buy about 2-6 DVDs a year. I'd easily pay $99.99 for 20 movies or perhaps it would be $9.99 a movie for those that just want a few a year.

Granted, a 100GB newsgroup account will be more spread thin over the course of a year, like 300 sessions of downloading, with smaller bursts of data, less intensive than downloading entire movies all at once in just 20 sessions a year.

Anyway I don't see it as prohibitively expensive. (Yeah there is licensing and royalties and server costs too etc.)

Now, admittedly there are problems such as on campuses or businesses that already are bandwidth strapped to the point of prohibiting entire ports and protocols.

It has to happen sometime though...
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post #164 of 437
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Originally posted by kormac77
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I realy have to go.

See ya later!

i remember when you posted this and thought you were of your rocker then.......but now..........i believe it........i can see apple doing this and i can see it working.

this could be the most amazing thing apple has EVER done!
i hope your right kormac.
post #165 of 437
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Originally posted by kormac77
Do you remember my i****v2 ? Do you still belive me ?

If you do, your whish will come this year!

OK......

So.....

It just occurred to me....

And I am wondering....

If THIS has anything to do with any of the above.

It seems that a (hypothetical) i**** would now come in handy....

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post #166 of 437
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Originally posted by johnq
Unless Apple/studios used the Bit Torrent approach (or similar) to serve the movies.

Considering a bought movie on iMovie Store (whatever) would go for 9.99 for regular length movies, I would assume that for Apple, sending ~4.7GB of data doesn't cost $9.99 each time. What might it cost?

If giganews charges $99.99 for 100GB/year that would be equivalent to about 20 movies or so. Myself, I buy about 2-6 DVDs a year. I'd easily pay $99.99 for 20 movies or perhaps it would be $9.99 a movie for those that just want a few a year.

Granted, a 100GB newsgroup account will be more spread thin over the course of a year, like 300 sessions of downloading, with smaller bursts of data, less intensive than downloading entire movies all at once in just 20 sessions a year.

Anyway I don't see it as prohibitively expensive. (Yeah there is licensing and royalties and server costs too etc.)

Now, admittedly there are problems such as on campuses or businesses that already are bandwidth strapped to the point of prohibiting entire ports and protocols.

It has to happen sometime though...

While I agree that a movie store has a market NOW, I think it is a quick fad that will fade away once people realize how crappy the quality is. As Stevie has said best, people dont wanna watch their movies hundreds of times (except Old School), and they surely dont wanna watch it at low res. After all, why have an HDTV to play web-compressed movies???? I tihnk Apple is smart to shy away. *We* might be looked upon as stupid for a while, but give it a year.
post #167 of 437
First off, by movie store do you mean to purchase or to rent?

If it was $9.99 to purchase, assuming the movies were came in either a DVD image file or high bitrate divx, I think it would go over very well.

OH! IDEA just hit me. What if when you purchased a movie you had access to lets say, a 700mb divx, a 1.4gb divx and the 4.7gb dvd .img file.

Then once you "puchased" the movie you could choose to download one right away and then another at a later time.

Say I bought "Old School" (My fav) on the iMovie whatever, I could download it in the 700mb divx file just to watch and then i could download it later in the 4.7gb file.
post #168 of 437
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Originally posted by Mandricard
OK......

So.....

It just occurred to me....

And I am wondering....

If THIS has anything to do with any of the above.

It seems that a (hypothetical) i**** would now come in handy....

Hope springs confusedly,

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post #169 of 437
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As I said in a previous thread Remote desktop now contains everything to manage mac or other device remotely. A light version could be well placed in the i**** if any

This does appear to harmonize with a couple of Jobs' cryptic (or non) responses during the release of Airport Express, particularly when asked about remote controls. Things are beginning to come together...

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post #170 of 437
so maybe the ibox will see the light of day?
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post #171 of 437
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so maybe the ibox will see the light of day?

This would be cool if they make one - an iLife only machine! - and sells it dirt cheap. Of course, make it a G4. But I think its appeal would be very limited like Pinpin.
post #172 of 437
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so maybe the ibox will see the light of day?

From Apple or more probably from third parties
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post #173 of 437
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Originally posted by johnq
The problem with the Chuck D mentality is this:

He started from nothing, worked hard against all the adversity he likely faced, as anyone does in business but especially so a young black man in a fledgling music genre (at the time).

Thanks to the existing structure, he was able to amass a fortune....he's a multi-millionaire. Being successful is not a bad thing.

Problem is that now that he has climbed up the latter and is on the parapet, he wants to pull up the ladder behind him, so no one else can climb up out of the ghetto (or trailer park or tenements) they same way he did.

That's certainly not what he did. He battled against the odds in a system set up against him, lost a few battles (sampling), and won a few, and he's trying to use his influence to make it easier for the next Chuck D. The industry is no friend to artists, and especially hip-hop artists. They make all their money with live shows and merchandise sales, like most musicians. There are a few, glittering exceptions, but they're exceptions.

The people trying to make it hard are the people supporting the status quo. It enriches them, so who cares what it does to someone else?

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It is too arrogant/ignorant to suddenly say that the system is bad despite it working for you so magnificently. Any system can be made to work and be improved. But he wants to completely dismantle it with no logical, well-thought out replacement that I've ever heard of. (I'll gladly listen to alternatives).

I think you should read his arguments a little more carefully, and you should be aware that it's quite possible to benefit personally from a system while thinking the system is essentially broken, then turn around and use your success to reform it. It's not arrogance or ignorance, it's just keeping your eyes open and looking beyond your own person. After all, no-one would listen to Chuck D if he was some random guy trying to sell a few hundred copies of his self-published CD, right?

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I mean I can envision a world where all music, all t-shirts, all posters, all CD/DVDs, all concerts are free, listeners/viewers pay nothing for anything anywhere. Let artists rely solely on voluntary contributions. Pay out of appreciation. I love you Ray Charles, here's $10.

You're missing the point. The point is not that everything should be free. The point is that right now, in the real world, artists are lucky to make a dime from a recording. They're far more likely to lose money, which gives the record company leverage over them, lather, rinse, repeat. Right now, in the real world, musicians make a living performing live and selling merchandise (some also by selling CDs at live shows, which you can do without major label support). So, as it is — and this attitude is common among the musicians I know, including my own band — CDs are seen as promotional material. It's a rare and privileged few who can actually make a living from CD sales. Given that, why bother trying to make recorded music a profit center? These days it doesn't cost much to make a decent record, so you can write it off as advertizing and distribute it as widely as possible. And which network distributes your work widely, for free? Oh, and it's patronized heavily by college students. They don't buy much in the best case, but their colleges pay very well. There are bands that do quite well for themselves touring college campuses.

This is not about a dream, and it's not about "everything should be free." It's about promotion, and in the end, about success on your own terms. Including financial success. And it addresses things as they are, not as someone would wish them to be. Believe me, there are a whole lot of people who dream of a music industry that works. And then they wake up.
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post #174 of 437
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Originally posted by limtc
This would be cool if they make one - an iLife only machine! - and sells it dirt cheap. Of course, make it a G4. But I think its appeal would be very limited like Pinpin.

you mean pippin !

one, it won't be dirt cheap. its an apple remember.

and i think you would be surprised by the appeal. remember what people said about the ipod...
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post #175 of 437
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Originally posted by othello
you mean pippin !

one, it won't be dirt cheap. its an apple remember.

and i think you would be surprised by the appeal. remember what people said about the ipod...

Maybe I just don't believe in a set top box, unless it is dirt cheap. Even EyeHome is a little too expensive for me (but a cool device though!).
post #176 of 437
Ok, I'm confused (and a little slow), what exactly is Kormac predicting for WWDC and the near future (ie. will be introduced this year). Can someone summarise it?

Something like ..

- New iMac with detachable screen and HighDefTV??
- QT7?
- Some kinda handheld device?
- .... ?

I can't put all his little pieces together, and am totally lost by how HDTV fits in with the iMac and what would be good about it. ?

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post #177 of 437
I like Kormac's ideas about the iPad and iStation. It may have been what Steve Jobs had in mind when he originally talked about the "Digital Hub" a couple of years ago. Airport Express is a step in the right direction but my hope is that there is (much) more to come.
The best part about Apple's future digital hub is that it will be extremely difficult to replicate by companies like Microsoft because it involves so many Apple core technologies (OS X, iTunes, iPod, QuickTime, Remote Desktop, MPEG 4, AirPort, Firewire, etc). Apple has everything under one roof, they make the whole widget.
post #178 of 437
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Originally posted by HippyShoes

Ok, I'm confused (and a little slow), what exactly is Kormac predicting for WWDC and the near future (ie. will be introduced this year). Can someone summarise it?

What is he predicting? I'll summarize it: Anything and Everything.
post #179 of 437
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Originally posted by TWinbrook46636
What is he predicting? I'll summarize it: Anything and Everything.

you must hate wasting your time posting in his thread then, right?

c'mon kormac keep talking man!
post #180 of 437
kormac's speculations are back to their great old quality ... if not always accurate!!

Obviously G5's aren't going to be the focus, so Consumer Products (mostly software - iLife and .Mac) will be consolidated or improved and possibly a re-defining of QT for the future. If QT can get wireless and mobile and out there faster than MS Media stuff, Apple can be situated to "iPod" video as we have been hoping for years.

The question is what killer utility will be included in Tiger that could use another spoke in the "digital hub?" An OS independent QT on top of an iBox, might be it, but that doesn't seem enough to me to start off a NEW market for developers to get excited about...just a fancy VCR? It needs to be something more to do with infrastructure, like announcing strategic partnerships to even better streamline content creation to delivery. I think that is what the relatively dormant .Mac is to evolve into, and a new home device to use the content seemlessly....

New hardware, if any, obviously seems to center around the iMac. Obviously the G5 won't fit into the current hemisphere for a while so I'm sure the new iMac will need to be redesigned. How can you redefine the consumer Mac while introducing a new consumer "box?" Well maybe you integrate the two. So I expect the product announcement will not just be a tablet or other periferal. With a new OS on the horizon, I think this is a time for Apple to significantly redefine the home PC .... I just hope there will be $700 version.
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post #181 of 437
maybe they will make a mini-ibox with the new 50 gig mini drive from toshiba which could record T.V like tivo but also act as a portable firewire drive for the new dumbterminal or pda like device. it could also stream the T.V. through airport express to anywhere in your house. Maybe apple will go the opposite way of AIO devices and go modular.
post #182 of 437
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Kormac nailed the Panny DVCPro HD codec. He also nailed Motion when no one else was talking about it.

True. That was insider information. But this prediction? I'm not even sure what the prediction is. So far we've just seen some vague allusions to possible technology convergences. Kormac, can you clarify?
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post #183 of 437
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Well. I am tired by many people here that confused.
And people who blame me.

The reason I give long technical background is that you have to know this background information and concept to understand the whole concept of products.

I wish I had more people exchange their idea to be added and give more thought about Apple's dirction to help more feedback to APPLE.

Well, I think most of people are not like to talk about general idea but just want to have name and spec.

Here is what will be announced.

- Preview of Tiger: OS X 10.4

- iMac G5.

- New service to support Consumer Electronics.

- 20, 23, 30 inch Monitor with HDTV capability.

- iProjector with WiFi. ( Name may be different. )

There is more in the future for CES but it might be announce at WWDC. ( In my opinion, he will wait for CES )

By the way, check with who will be keynote for CES ? ( Officially, it was not decided. )

The more thing is

* Name can be changed

- iStation ( aka iBox )

- iPAD ( aka i**** v2 )

- And 4th generation iPod with Color dispaly by September.

Well. Are you guys are satisfied ?

It is up to you to belive me or not,
I think this is rumor site, not press or newpaper.
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post #184 of 437
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To John at the Apple legal;

Again, As you can see here.

I am not work for APPLE directly and I don't have any APPLE internal documentations. And I never signed NDA for products above to APPLE.

To Escher: Could you do me a favor? Do you think I might have problem with APPLE if my condition is as above ?
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post #185 of 437
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Originally posted by kormac77
Here is what will be announced.

- Preview of Tiger: OS X 10.4
- iMac G5.
- New service to support Consumer Electronics.
- 20, 23, 30 inch Monitor with HDTV capability.
- iProjector with WiFi. ( Name may be different. )

The more thing is

- iStation ( aka iBox )
- iPAD ( aka i**** v2 )
- And 4th generation iPod with Color dispaly by September.

Well. Are you guys are satisfied ?

kormac77, don't get me wrong I'm quite impressed with the laundry list but... here are my comments:

- WAY too Hardware heavy for WWDC! Heck it's even too hardware heavy for a MacWorld maybe even for TWO MacWorlds.
- Aren't you missing a QucikTime 7 announcement (something that really fits WWDC)?

Don't get me wrong - I'd really love to see all off the items listed above but don't get mad at me for thinking your doing quite a bit of wishful thinking with at least some of the predictions above.

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post #186 of 437
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To DaveGee:

QuickTime7 is THE most important part of this WWDC.

And it is the key part of New Service.

And the new hareware is the key for new service too.

This is 20th anniversary of Mac and Apple will do their best to give a good time for the new way of Mac.
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post #187 of 437
Maybe apple has decided that THEY want to be your digital hub...not just their products. they are definitely moving towards a lifestyle company. they take all the things we like to do (or need to do for work), make products that allow us to do them easily and with panache, and i think what i am getting from kormac is the idea that now they want to be the distributor for content as well. look at itunes. right now with the ipod we have a great product yes..but, we can also, through apple, go and download whatever we want music-wise to take with us and use every day. video/movies are the only media that isnt as widely available conveniently. before the flame, i know u can go to your blockbuster and pay tv and order things but if you could go to imovie store and download a quicktime HD (or have it streamed) wouldnt this be simpler?
on the business side, there arent so many video conferencing apps out there that are easily integrated into a workflow. imagine being on a rendevous enabled network at work (maybe quicktime can be useful for this on windows platforms) and being able to conference with an office in another city.
what is the servie kormac is talking about? imovie stream/download service? expanded .Mac type of thing with larger storage and home folder on server? anywhere you go, there you are type of thing...and the home on ipod for those who might not have access to internet everywhere.
point is, i think apple is saying why dont we position ourselves so that while we make great hardware, people can also depend on us for all of the things they do, work or play.
i for one know that even with its limited capabilities i use .mac more and more. for traveling around the country it is nice to be able to have my addressbook (calander could easily be incorportated) and the ability to sync with multiple devices and computers is a godsend (like setting up my new computer recently) .
i know im rambling but kormac was throwing this stuff out to get people talking so....
post #188 of 437
What a great thread. I thank you for your posts Kormac, you clearly have some hard information and some good educated speculation. I think we are nearly there... I think there is too much hardware n the shopping list for WWDC but I would expect to see most of those things before the end of the year.

QT7 will indeed be the centre of all things on the professional and home front. On the pro front it is vital that Apple gets their WM9 killing strategy on-line and I would expect a demo of the MPEG/H.(whatever) AVC HD codec to get an airing.

That's all pretty predictable and expected. I think the surprises will be on the consumer front and it hadn't occurred to me until recently just how hard Apple are going to go for it. The whole video projector idea seemed silly and ridiculous unless it is part of complete strategy for the home entertainment market.

The support for mpeg transport stream in QT7 means the possibility of HD video (1280 x 720 anyway) over AirPort Extreme (@19Mbs, a la HDV spec) so you can see the possibility of streaming DVD's, TV and home HDV movies around the house to a projector, a 30" LCD and the new bedroom and kitchen friendly 'flatMac' (see AI front page for details). The thing is they will have to be Apple products (or 'partner' products..Panasonic?) because of the essential DRM built in.

This is perfect timing if it is indeed the strategy. There are Home Network products around but they aren't exactly setting the world alight and there is a lot of consumer confusion about what they are supposed to do and how to connect them together. What better company to connect all the dots?

Wadya think?
post #189 of 437
When is the Fall CES?
post #190 of 437
Thanks for your posts, as always, Kormac. Looks like ALL of your predictions are close to fruition! Looking forward to the HDTV monitor!!
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When is the Fall CES?

Fall CES? No such thing... CES is in January the next CES will be CES 2005 - Bill Gates has been the (primary?) Keynote speaker for the past two years.

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post #192 of 437
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To John at the Apple legal;

Again, As you can see here.

I am not work for APPLE directly and I don't have any APPLE internal documentations. And I never signed NDA for products above to APPLE.

To Escher: Could you do me a favor? Do you think I might have problem with APPLE if my condition is as above ?
Thanks.

Get a lawyer now! (I think you're just fabricating this to make it seem you're more credible, but just incase you're not)

It doesn't matter if you've signed a NDA. You could still lose your job.
post #193 of 437
Here is the original thread about the rumored Apple projector:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...hreadid=354755
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you must hate wasting your time posting in his thread then, right?

c'mon kormac keep talking man!

No, I think he works in video production and has some actual inside info in that area. Whenever he starts predicting things like hardware however, he is typically way off base, as far off as anyone else here myself included. I don't mind him posting. He has creative ideas. I don't believe him when it comes to hardware (yet) but am open to the possibility.

Here is my prediction. I predict Apple will kill off the iMac. Now I will be sure to save this thread (as he saves his) so that in 5 years I can prove I was right.

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Originally posted by kormac77

Here is what will be announced.

- Preview of Tiger: OS X 10.4

- iMac G5.

- New service to support Consumer Electronics.

- 20, 23, 30 inch Monitor with HDTV capability.

- iProjector with WiFi. ( Name may be different. )

Well. Are you guys are satisfied ?


Now see, kormac77, it is so much better when you are clear and straightforward!
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Kormac:

Many signs point to the arrival of the iTablet/I****v2. The Macnet prediction jumps to mind. There is, however, one sign (not generally known) that elevates the probability of arrival of the iTablet/i****v2 to near certainty.

I just purchased a Powerbook G4.

When the iTablet/i****v2 arrives, therefore, I will have to convince The Wife that we really do need the iTablet/i****v2 to augment my Powerbook G4, our G4 iMac, and my venerable Rev A. iBook.

Keep right on talking, everyone! You're giving me great 'convincement' fuel to apply to The Little Woman.

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post #197 of 437
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- iPAD ( aka i**** v2 )

If you are referring to what I think you are referring to then I'm sorry to say this project is dead. It was killed off last year very close to it's release. That was not the name of the device though.
post #198 of 437
reading the above linked AVS forum i came across this post..this was back in january of 04 but sounds a bit like more than just guesswork:

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As someone involved with both Apple and home theater, I think I can crystal ball this with some good guesses.

First, I guarantee this wont be a high end projector. It absolutely will not cost more than $2995. More likely this is a $1495 unit.

This is not a projector for home theater. Go back to Apple's pain points. What do you think Steve Jobs does every day? Watch Keynote.app presentations on crappy third-party projectors which universally have (1) the worst user interfaces for configuration known to man even on the very best of these beasts, (2) horrible industrial design vis a vis shoddy casing, shoddy lenses, shoddy video sync, and millions of complex options hidden away in inaccessible menus that require calling your IT person to fix, (3) neither DVI nor ADC nor any other acceptable connector according to Apple. The PAIN POINT is that everybody with an Apple laptop walks around and needs a funky adapter to hookup to these shoddy projectors. What better way to fix that problem than taking a 10 ton club and pounding these losers out of the market. At worst, it will make the competition sit up and start paying attention to their products.

Really, this low-mid range business projector market is quite ripe for the picking. Like MP3 players years ago, it is inhabited only by companies that couldn't care less about creating an insanely great product and simply add another few irrelevant features every year packed into their badly integrated products.

Apple already has a display division (unlike the printer division they nuked years ago, they're quite serious about displays). These engineers haven't got much to do. They're already years ahead of the competition. Dell's best computer display is a mediocre 20" LCD (ignoring their OEM LCD television nonsense). Apple has a 23" 1080p resolution reference quality graphic design screen that sells like hotcakes.

So what do these people do? OK, they can take the same displays and put them in aluminum cases to handle the latest fad, but these are serious and top notch industrial engineers. You think they're spinning wheels? I think not. So about a year ago (again I'm just hypothesizing here) Apple assigned a group of them to work on an Apple Cinema Projector. Crushing the entire low-mid range business projector market, it would feature 1280x1024 LCD resolution with very high brightness, one ADC port, one DVI port, one VGA port for old-timers, and finally a set of HD component inputs to hook it up to your average home theater setup. All of this packaged in a small, sturdy, aluminum casing.

At $1500, Apple gets 60% market share in 12 months by which time they introduce the version with the iPod dock integrated which plays video effects synchronized to your iPod and integrating with a remote control for both projector and iPod.

The remainder of the market cowers in fear and runs away leaving the entire $800- $3K projector market to Apple.

Apple will never ever enter the true low end projector market, nor would they enter the high end home theater market.

These and other devices would be introduced on February 3 in a special 20th anniversary press event.

Reminder: I don't know anything. But I'd sure like all the above to be true.

(crazy "what if" side idea: put all the guts into the small aluminum case and put the projection eye and lamp onto a metal snake perhaps even suitable for mounting on the top of a laptop screen like the iSight. Think of the Pixar light for instance -- this is the Pixar light productized into a projector. And Ives will get another gold star.)
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i totally had missed that right now on itunes you can already buy videos....doesnt this seem to be giving us just a taste of what the downloadable movie/video content package might be like?
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Originally posted by macfly
i totally had missed that right now on itunes you can already buy videos....doesnt this seem to be giving us just a taste of what the downloadable movie/video content package might be like?

You can't buy videos in iTMS. The price you see below the video playing is for the song of the same title.
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