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post #1 of 301
8/12/02 at 12:50pm
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yourdailymac.com claims to have new PowerMac Specs.

Fast:
1.2 GHz G4
512 MB DDR RAM (finally!)
60 GB HD
SuperDrive
NVIDIA GeForce4MX 64 MB DDR
$1599

Faster:
1.4 GHz G4
512 MB DDR RAM
80 GB HD
SuperDrive
NVIDIA GeForce4MX 64 MB
$2199

Fastest:
Dual 1.6 GHz G4
1 GB DDR RAM
120 GB HD
SuperDrive
ATI Radeon 9700 128 MB
$2999

Build-to-order options:
Up to 4 GB DDR RAM
Ultra160 SCSI
nVidia GeForce4MX (standard), nVidia GeForce4 Ti ($150 more), ATI Radeon 9700 ($150 more), or Matrox Parhelia ($250 more)
Zip drive
AppleCare
All systems include:
Gigabit Ethernet
GigaWire (1394b)
USB 2.0
AGP 8x
PCI-X 133 MB/sec
56k modem
AirPort ready
Bluetooth built-in
New "snow" case (similar to spy photos)
DynaCool turbine cooling

They seem optimistic to me, but I suppose anything is possible.<a href="http://www.yourdailymac.com" target="_blank">link</a>
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post #2 of 301
8/12/02 at 12:57pm
this guy has been so wrong in the past. i'll judge the specs in the morning
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post #3 of 301
8/12/02 at 12:59pm
Sweet if true, but they seem a bit optimistic, especially at those price points. And I'm highly suspicious of USB 2 and Gigawire. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />

Not that I'm saying it will happen, but I personally would like to see a duallie in the midrange too. Like a dual 1.2GHz for around $2,000. That would be a swell replacement for the dual 450s we have in the office. A $3,000 top-end machine would be a harder sell!
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post #4 of 301
8/12/02 at 1:01pm
Hey! That's my prediction post from the MacAddict forums they're using! Sure sounds accurate, but I might be wrong. (BTW, I have no ties to Apple except people who know me at one of Apple's retail stores-I won't tell you the location)
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post #5 of 301
8/12/02 at 1:02pm
those specs actually sound good, thus they can't be real. He pulled em out of his ***.

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post #6 of 301
8/12/02 at 1:05pm
IMHO very optimistic.
Please note that they provided some information on new displays --

no 15" TFT anymore and a new 19", but still keeping the 22" Cinema.

And a new (only BTO) Powerbook case in black.

Sorry, but I find that hard to believe.

Even if I'd like to believe the rest ... but no black PB case ... never ....

And this disqualifies the whole bit of information ...

Even if 1.6GHz would be desireable...


IMO Fake ...

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post #7 of 301
8/12/02 at 1:06pm
"Matrox Parhelia ($250 more)"

Ummm that sure seems strange since I'm sure I read that Matrox wasn't going to support Mac with that card.
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post #8 of 301
8/12/02 at 1:07pm
He blew it with the 'USB 2.0', PCI-X, Matrox, and 'DynaCool' junk he threw in there.

BS

Not to mention, no GeForce4 Ti in any basic set up?

No way.
they said they would soon be the primary graphics supplier for Apple.
They didn't say "our cheap crap will ship in Macs'


Try harder next time.
Do your homework.

[ 08-12-2002: Message edited by: cinder ]</p>
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post #9 of 301
8/12/02 at 1:08pm
They may be optimistic but they would definitely be a nice thing to have. Maybe we'll see a return of a BTO option for the single procs to be duals. I believe that used to be an option back when there were 5 G4s in the mix instead of 3.

Also of interest are the price drops on monitors and new powerbook specs. Yet another case of optimistic but if they're true they rock. If the 7" is dropping to 600 bucks and remaining non widescreen, you'll see more folks pick it up than at 1000 bucks, but still not as many as if it were widescreen and say...700 bucks. I know if it were a 17" wideescreen like the new iMac for $700 I would pick one up along with one of the new Powermacs. Hell, even the 22" monitor for 1500 is a significant price drop. Is the 22" Cinema Display a widescreen aspect ratio already? I wanna say it is, hence the name
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post #10 of 301
8/12/02 at 1:08pm
I BELIEVE THEM!

These systems will form a nice segue to the 64bit IBM chip that will be used next year. Wow Dual 1.6ghz with a 9700 Pro. That system will kick A-R-S-E.
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post #11 of 301
8/12/02 at 1:08pm
This all really sounds bogus. The thing that excited me most though was the drop in price of the 22" LCD. Oh man, we can only hope...
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post #12 of 301
8/12/02 at 1:09pm
BTO Matrox Parhelia... *mhmmm*
Must be expensive stuff they smoke... it's even better than RDF!

btw. PCI-X is 533MB/s if I'm not completely mistaken...
Rather over-optimistic. We'll see...
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post #13 of 301
8/12/02 at 1:09pm
Not enough FAST !
Too expensive !

Steve you have a night to give us 1.5, 2.0, 2.5 GHz G5 and all the speedy technologies around in one, dual and quad-processors, at not more than 3000$ !!!!


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post #14 of 301
8/12/02 at 1:11pm
I just checked the article and the other predictions make me discount the whole lot. Of course with Apple anything is possible, but does anybody seriously believe that the 800MHz PowerBook that was introduced less than four months ago is going to get DDR RAM (will the chip even support it? or are the PowerBooks going to the 7470?), a 64MB Radeon, a black case, and drop to $2,399?! And the top model is going to get a SuperDrive, which as far as anyone knows doesn't even EXIST for slot-loaders? :eek:
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post #15 of 301
8/12/02 at 1:13pm
<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />

1.6Ghz

<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />

I'll eat this post if that's true.
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post #16 of 301
8/12/02 at 1:15pm
[quote]Originally posted by BRussell:
<strong> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />

1.6Ghz

<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />

I'll eat this post if that's true.</strong><hr></blockquote>

So,

with

this

post

you

will

have

more

paper

to

eat




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post #17 of 301
8/12/02 at 1:18pm
[quote]I'll eat this post if that's true. <hr></blockquote>

I'll believe 1.6 before I'll believe a SuperDrive and DDR RAM in a black PowerBook for $2,999.
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post #18 of 301
8/12/02 at 1:25pm
As far as PowerMacs go, all those specs are doable, we just need a G4 that does DDR - the mythical 7470.

The Powerbook specs, although deeply yummy, are let down by the black enclosure - you can't colour titanium black, blue, purple, yellow, even rainbow - but not black.

I'd love a purple one.
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post #19 of 301
8/12/02 at 1:26pm
So the 22 inch Cinema display is $1000 cheaper?

SuperDrive in the hi-end PowerBook?

A new 19 inch cinema display for $999?

This couldn't be more optimistic.

Don't believe this. Prepare to be let down if you do.

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post #20 of 301
8/12/02 at 1:28pm
[quote]Originally posted by Blackcat:
<strong>The Powerbook specs, although deeply yummy, are let down by the black enclosure - you can't colour titanium black, blue, purple, yellow, even rainbow - but not black.

I'd love a purple one.</strong><hr></blockquote>

You can anodize aluminum to a black color.
Also, they can paint the titanium any color they want. Maybe it's a paint job abd not an anodizing?

I'll believe when I see it, touch it, feel it, own it.

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post #21 of 301
8/12/02 at 1:29pm
[quote]Originally posted by monsterjaeger:
<strong>BTO Matrox Parhelia... *mhmmm*
Must be expensive stuff they smoke... it's even better than RDF!

btw. PCI-X is 533MB/s if I'm not completely mistaken...
Rather over-optimistic. We'll see...</strong><hr></blockquote>


The grand-daddy of PCI-X, a PCI-X controller running at 133MHz has a staggering 1066MBytes/s of bandwidth. However, only one device is supported without the use of a bridge. Only the most hungry of peripherals (Fibre Channel, Gigabit Ethernet) will take advantage of PCI-X 133.
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post #22 of 301
8/12/02 at 1:32pm
More seriously :
- OS X (preemptive multitask, protected memory, multiple users, true GUI)
- Good hardware (if these specs are true, best will be the "G5" at 1.5, 2.0 and 2.5 GHz)
- lower price (if this is true)

THE 3 BEST REASONS TO SWITCH...

All the reasons that PC users blame to the mac are killed (no protected memory, not multitask, to oexpensive, too sloww)
NEXT step : a iOffice with compatibility with msOffice and Wintel will be very bad.

Well done Steve.

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post #23 of 301
8/12/02 at 1:33pm
Macrumors.com are reporting that these specs are _WWWWWRRRRRRRROOOOOONNNNNGGGGGGGGGG____

(wrong)
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post #24 of 301
8/12/02 at 1:42pm
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I guess the specs were too good to be true.

<a href="http://www.macrumors.com" target="_blank">link</a>
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post #25 of 301
8/12/02 at 1:42pm
From MacMinute:
[quote]New Power Mac G4 systems to be unveiled tomorrow with speeds up to 1.25GHz
August 12 - 16:33 EDT Apple will unveil new Power Mac G4 systems tomorrow, MacMinute has learned. Sources inform us that three configurations will be offered: dual-867MHz (US$1,699), dual-1GHz ($2,499), and dual-1.25GHz ($3,299). The dual-1GHz and dual-1.25GHz models will feature ATI Radeon 9000 series graphics cards; additional system-specific details are not available. The dual-867MHz configuration is slated to ship by the end of the week, while the new dual-1GHz model will ship towards the end of the month. Availability of the high-end dual-1.25GHz model is being pegged at sometime in September. Current Power Mac G4 systems will be reduced in price as follows: 800MHz ($1,299), 933MHz ($1,499) and dual-1GHz ($2,199). Additionally, Apple will introduce a SuperDrive-equipped eMac for $1,499, sources say, and will reduce the price of CD-RW and Combo Drive iMacs by $100 to $1,299 and $1,499, respectively.<hr></blockquote>
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post #26 of 301
8/12/02 at 1:43pm
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[ 08-12-2002: Message edited by: Leonis ]</p>
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post #27 of 301
8/12/02 at 1:44pm
The specs post by macosrumors.com on Thursday 8 August are nearly the same (1, 1.2 and 1.4 GHz with 1.2 and 1.4 being the 7470)...


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post #28 of 301
8/12/02 at 1:46pm
1.25GHz? What's the bus speed?
hint:
166MHz * 7.5

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post #29 of 301
8/12/02 at 1:48pm
that sucks if true! i guess i was too hyped up by those overly optimistic specs above! hehehehe. i'm not buying til' january anyway!
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post #30 of 301
8/12/02 at 1:48pm
All duals. Not staggering, but nice. The closeout price on the old dual GHz isn't bad, either.

It looks like the old mobo stays for one more round...
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post #31 of 301
8/12/02 at 1:48pm
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MacMinute reported the top end will be only 1.25GHz at $3,300

doesn't seem like good thing for Apple. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
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post #32 of 301
8/12/02 at 1:51pm
FWIW, I don't ever recall MacMinute being wrong with any 11th-hour predictions like these.
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post #33 of 301
8/12/02 at 1:51pm
1.25 GHz <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" /> <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" /> <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" /> <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" /> <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" /> <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" /> <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />

Steve, are we $-cows ?

I will wait tomorrow and if this is true, I really switch to PC-Linux.

An no update for the powerbook ?

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post #34 of 301
8/12/02 at 1:52pm
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Fine...I think I should now keep using my SlowSilver(tm) until next year.
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post #35 of 301
8/12/02 at 1:52pm
"configurations will be offered: dual-867MHz (US$1,699), dual-1GHz ($2,499), and dual-1.25GHz ($3,299)."


Now this sounds like apple! Thanks apple for letting me keep my money another 6+ months!
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post #36 of 301
8/12/02 at 1:54pm
I have yet to remember when MacMinute was wrong so I must say that if these machines have SDRAM... I think we will continue to hear Fred Anderson in earnings calls blaming low Power Mac sales on no Quark for OSX.

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post #37 of 301
8/12/02 at 1:57pm
[quote]Originally posted by cthulu:
<strong>"configurations will be offered: dual-867MHz (US$1,699), dual-1GHz ($2,499), and dual-1.25GHz ($3,299)."


Now this sounds like apple! Thanks apple for letting me keep my money another 6+ months! </strong><hr></blockquote>

Since they will sell the current Dual 1 GHz for $300 less than the new one, there will be more than just updated processor speeds.
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post #38 of 301
8/12/02 at 1:57pm
I can't think of a time when MacMinute has been wrong either. And the news is...yet again...dissapointing beyond belief.

The price drop is the only thing interesting me (dual 1Ghz dropping $500).

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post #39 of 301
8/12/02 at 2:00pm
I don't think MacMinute has ever been wrong with last-minute specs either. They're good.

Before people start 'ing and running off to PCs: All we know is processor speed, video card and price. That's not much. I'd be surprised if DDR RAM appears, but if there's a move to the 166MHz MPX bus, that's about a 25% increase in CPU bandwidth to go with a 25% increase in CPU clockspeed. It's not astonishing, but it's a solid upgrade. Also, the bottom end machine is a duallie now, not a crippled single-processor runt. Who can complain that the cheap machine is now a much better value?

And who seriously expected a PowerBook update?! There's no way that's happening until November. They got a significant revision not long ago, and the current models are sweet.

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post #40 of 301
8/12/02 at 2:03pm
<img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" /> <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" /> <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
I'm starting to be very tired of apple and its products, I can't believe that the specs are so low...
the intel world is reaching the 3 ghtz barrier and we get a 1.25 processor speed for more than 3000 dollars!!
I'll keep my old system for another 6 months.

But this shouldn't come as a surprise, Apple knows so well how to let us down...
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