Which dual did YOU buy? - Page 2

Bodhi has the right idea I think. For instance I've been debating this very same move. Not only could I get some idiot on eBay to pay too much for my 1 GHz DP Quicksilver, but I can now get a big discount on Apple hardware from my college. I get a machine faster w/10.2 and 2 5.25 inch drive bays. I also like the Audio I/O so I can use my plain talk mic with the machine. However, I've greased this thing up, and it's much more sleek than the new towers are. Trade mince meat for swiss cheese?

Oh, I also have THIS:

<a href="http://audiomidi.com/common/cfm/product.cfm?Product_ID=1868" target="_blank">http://audiomidi.com/common/cfm/product.cfm?Product_ID=1868</a>


Any advice?

Do it!

[quote]Originally posted by Bodhi:
<strong>

A) Makes sense when I sold it for $3200!

</strong><hr></blockquote>

How the **** could you sell that machine for that price?! <img src="graemlins/surprised.gif" border="0" alt="[Surprised]" /> :eek: <img src="graemlins/surprised.gif" border="0" alt="[Surprised]" /> <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />

In one or two weeks, I'll buy the new Dual 1 GHz with a full Gig Ram.

Before doing so, I need to watch the reviews, complains, critics and benchmarks.

Hey! What is this f** sh** ? I'm now unregistered ?

[quote]Originally posted by Leonis:
<strong>

How the **** could you sell that machine for that price?! <img src="graemlins/surprised.gif" border="0" alt="[Surprised]" /> :eek: <img src="graemlins/surprised.gif" border="0" alt="[Surprised]" /> <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

Long story. It was a Dual GHz, GB of Ram and a GeForce3.

I purchased my dual 1 GHz tower this morning from the online Apple store. One of the reasons I wanted the dual 1 Ghz was because they're shipping in 1-3 days... well I found out that only applies if you order a preconfigured one. I did mine BTO and changed the default ATi 9000 to a GeForce 4 Ti card. Now the ship date says 2-3 weeks.

I'm not really mad, but I am a little disappointed. I mean adding 2.5 weeks to the ship date to swap video cards, which due to the fabulous design of the towers, is at most a 1 minute job, including the screwing and unscrewing of the card? Eh... little peeved about that. All I can think of is that Apple is so backed up with BTO orders that it really is going to take that long to get to mine...

And I don't even believe that. But it's still cheaper than getting the Mac from a retail store and buying the GeForce 4 Ti kit seperately.

Darren Smith listed the VeloCD CDRW as an add-on drive. I use one now in my PC, but I cant find anything saying it will be compatible with the powermac...anyone know if it will work with iTunes? I see nothing about apple on the tdk website and nothing in the lists of compatible hardware at apples website. The super drive is super slow!

JohnHenry: Yeah, it will work fine. But if I were you, instead of getting one of those BTO from Apple, just order a Lite-On 48x20x40x from somewhere online. I'm sure that would be a lot cheaper, and Lite-On make great burners (bought one for my G3).

Man, this a dilemna. I was planning on seeing what happens with the IBM PowerPC 64-bit chip and keep my computer for a bit longer, but I could probably still do that.

I really need those drive bays. I want a fast burner in addition to DVD or DVD-RW, plus I want something for my audio breakout box. I could live with a fast CD-RW and breakout box though in the front.

Also, the new G4 has a front headphone jack, audio in, more RAM slots I believe (up to 2 GB or 4 slots as opposed to the 3 on my Quicksilver). There is so much wasted space in my tower. It makes so much sense that I could have another drive bay on the bottom but it would be a HARD hack job to do it. I could always try to get an audio card or device that had everything the breakout box did on the back, as well as audio in so I can use the old Apple plaintalk mic that came with my beige G3.

Is the case really ugly in person? How much do you figure I can get on eBay for my DP 1 GHz? Not sure what kind of a price I can get through my college for the new ones, but I'll enquire about that.

Decisions decision.....

Tiger,

If you want a frame of reference, while the Online Apple Edu store has the Dual 1 Gig for $2349, my school's (UCSB) bookstore has the Dual 1 Gig for $2299. And they're actually listing the Dual 1.25 at $2999 (as opposed to $3101 from Apple).

[quote]Originally posted by JohnHenry:
<strong>Darren Smith listed the VeloCD CDRW as an add-on drive. I use one now in my PC, but I cant find anything saying it will be compatible with the powermac...anyone know if it will work with iTunes? I see nothing about apple on the tdk website and nothing in the lists of compatible hardware at apples website. The super drive is super slow!</strong><hr></blockquote>

The VeloCD is not iTunes compatible (I'm not sure about Disc Burner). That doesn't bother me, though. I use Toast for all of my burning and I'm sure Apple will release a disc burning update in the near future that will add compatibility.

BTW...The VeloCD is not an add-on available from Apple. I ordered it locally and will install it myself.

[ 08-16-2002: Message edited by: Darren Smith ]</p>

Has ANYONE received a shipping notice from Apple?

It looks like I'm the only one here getting a Dual 1.25 Ghz :eek:

POWER MAC G4 CTO (P58-166MHZ\tZ05N\t
DP 1.25GHZ 2MB L3 Proc
512MB DDR DRAM@333MHZ-1 DIMM
120GB ULTRA ATA 7200RPM
Apple Superdrive
NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti,128MB
56K Int Modem
Airport Card Int
USB Keyboard- PMG4 -T
MAC'OS MINI KIT-T
Accessory kit-PMG4/T

APPLE PRO SPEAKER KIT-GEN\tM8756G/A

Nope, I also got the DP 1.25GHz with 1GB RAM for less than Apple's offering with only 512MB RAM.
Kinda funnny how resellers ALWAYS beat Apple's aparently "low" prices.
Hm, my ass

Playing the waiting game now....6 damn weeks.

G-News

I usually get Mac 7-10% lower than the SRP

[quote]Originally posted by Xaqtly:
<strong>I purchased my dual 1 GHz tower this morning from the online Apple store. One of the reasons I wanted the dual 1 Ghz was because they're shipping in 1-3 days... well I found out that only applies if you order a preconfigured one. I did mine BTO and changed the default ATi 9000 to a GeForce 4 Ti card. Now the ship date says 2-3 weeks.

I'm not really mad, but I am a little disappointed. I mean adding 2.5 weeks to the ship date to swap video cards, which due to the fabulous design of the towers, is at most a 1 minute job, including the screwing and unscrewing of the card? Eh... little peeved about that. All I can think of is that Apple is so backed up with BTO orders that it really is going to take that long to get to mine...

And I don't even believe that. But it's still cheaper than getting the Mac from a retail store and buying the GeForce 4 Ti kit seperately.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I downgraded my video card to the nVidia 4MX and my machine has been delayed as well. Grrr. Maybe I'll go see if I can order one from elsewhere (cheaper?) and cancel the Apple order...

Power Mac G4 Dual 1GHz/1MB L3 pp/256MB 333MHz DDR/80GB/SuperDrive/RV250-64MB-ADC-DVI/56k M8689LL/A 1-3 days Remove $2,349.00 $2,349.00
Mac OS - U.S. English

256MB PC2700 DDR SDRAM - 1 DIMM

56K internal modem

Apple Pro Keyboard - U.S. English

Power Mac G4 Dual 1GHz w/167MHz system bus

Optical 2 - None

ATI Radeon 9000 Pro dual-display w/64MB DDR

Optical 1 - Apple SuperDrive

80GB Ultra ATA drive


APP for Power Mac (w/ or w/o display) - Enrollment Kit

partially shipped

looks like the time to ship date for the stock conigured macs is bumped to 5-7 days if you're purchasing for education

guess i shoulda ordered thru the federal store <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />

[quote]Originally posted by Xaqtly:
<strong>Interesting that a lot of you opted for the GeForce 4 Ti... I'm about to buy the dual 1 GHz tower myself. BTO with the GeForce 4 Ti and without the modem.

I recommend that nobody add memory at the Apple store... it's 2-3 times more expensive that way. Just get your Mac with the RAM it comes with by default and buy the rest somewhere else like Ramjet, Memory X or even a store like Fry's. It's standard PC2700 DDR memory after all, you should be able to get it just about anywhere.</strong><hr></blockquote>

pssst... the graphics card is also 2-3 times more expensive. you're best bet would be to flash a pc ati or nvidia card.

[ 08-17-2002: Message edited by: serrano ]</p>

[quote]Originally posted by TigerWoods99:
<strong>JohnHenry: Yeah, it will work fine. But if I were you, instead of getting one of those BTO from Apple, just order a Lite-On 48x20x40x from somewhere online. I'm sure that would be a lot cheaper, and Lite-On make great burners (bought one for my G3).</strong><hr></blockquote>

I have to agree, my lite-on 24x has been great. fully supported by itunes/disc burner/toast/nero

Here us what my friend heard yesterday in a meeting with some people from Apple (he works in retail and distribution). They started building machines TODAY, Saturday. They let the orders build up, they get an idea of what they are working with and then they begin building today. You should start to receive ship notifications maybe today (Saturday) but if not then definitely Monday.

another question, a little bit off topic... concerning the possibility to add 2GB RAM to the new PM.

I have an old PM 400 AGP with four RAM slots.
that means i could install 2GB RAM. My question is, will my motherboard support 2GB ?

The Day the DUAL G4's w/DDR were announced I ran down to my local APPLE STORE and bought the following:

DUAL 1 GIG
standard config w/ 80 gig hd and the Radeon 9000

then I bought my 2 gigs of Kingston DDR PC2700 Ram for an even $600. My machine screams!

Also installed a combo drive I had, below my super drive.

I was strictly OS9 on a G3 Pismo 400 before, (and a PowerCenter Pro 210 before that) so this is my first real experience with OS X and I'm glad I waiting to go OS X with Jaguar. It's so responsive, and all the new added features blow my mind! LOL. (see what prolonged use of OS 9 and a G3 chip does? I'm giggling like a school girl!)

So many people are talkin smack about the new machines...but it's MORE than enough for me. I mainly edit in Final Cut, do some Photoshop stuff, use Word and surf the Net. So I'm all good....until a G5 rears its head

I was going to buy the Dual 1 Ghz and actually had an order placed at the Apple Store.

I went to the Apple Store in Durham/Chapel hill and played with tboth the Dual 867 and the Dual 1Ghz and couldn't tell a big difference between them. SO instead of spending $5000 on a Dual Ghz and 22" Cinema Display, I spent the same ammount of monet on a Dual 857, 22 ACD, and the low end eMac G4 700.

I also get 2 free printers, a free Rio 600 MP3 player, free Norton Utilities 7, and a $200 back on the Display/cpu purchase via rebate.
Also, I am trading in my imac 333 for $350 credit. (could get more on ebay I guess?)

Once the rebates clear the final total for it all will be $4829 and both me and the wife will have new G4's with OS 10.2.

MSKR

defiant: yes you can install 2GB of RAM, however, Apple said you could only install 1.5 because the finder can only handle 999MB and the OS can only address 1.5GB I think.
Mac OS X might actually enhance that system's value in that case.

G_News

test test test

If anyone ordered a new dual with a GeForceTi and it shipped, please post in here!

[quote]Originally posted by APC:

It looks like I'm the only one here getting a Dual 1.25 Ghz
POWER MAC G4 CTO (P58-166MHZ Z05N
DP 1.25GHZ 2MB L3 Proc
512MB DDR DRAM@333MHZ-1 DIMM
120GB ULTRA ATA 7200RPM
Apple Superdrive
NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti,128MB
56K Int Modem
Airport Card Int
USB Keyboard- PMG4 -T
MAC'OS MINI KIT-T
Accessory kit-PMG4/T

APPLE PRO SPEAKER KIT-GEN M8756G/A
<hr></blockquote>

Nope, I'm with you too. Here's mine:

Dual 1.25 Ghz
POWER MAC G4 CTO (P58-166MHZ Z05N
DP 1.25GHZ 2MB L3 Proc
512MB DDR DRAM@333MHZ-1 DIMM
120GB ULTRA ATA 7200RPM
Apple Superdrive
ATI Radeon 9700 w/64MB SDRAM
ADC Student Developer Kit
.MAC Retail Box Kit

Outside of Apple:

Logitech Wireless Freedom Pro- wireless ergonomic keyboard and mouse
Archos Recorder 20- USB 2.0 20GB mp3/portable hard drive (my last one was stolen a few weeks ago)
Addonics USB 2.0- 4 port USB 2.0 pci card
Canon Powershot G2- 4 megapixel digital camera

Debating upon stuff for the second bay. Take a look at this <a href="http://forums.appleinsider.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=2&t=001389" target="_blank">thread</a> and tell us what your doing with your second bay or what you think is a good idea.

I've been patiently waiting for a new computer for a year now, so this is finally my glory days to get the things I've been wanting. Now I really will have made the full switch.

-CFPC

Radeon 9700 with 64MB SDRAM?

WTF are you smoking?
first of all the Radeon 9700 isn't even orderable yet, as the PC version has just been released today (yesterday), the Mac versio is going to take some time. Secondly it's likely there will never be a version with less than 128MB RAM, and 3rd of all, it's never going to be anything less than DDR-SDRAM.

So I guess you got a 9000 Pro for now.

G-News

I will, Bodhi. Are you sure they started building them today? I'm in Los Angeles too. My order status still says "being assembled". They also told me it would be a 2-3 week wait, and it's only been I think 3 business days so far since I ordered.

I ordered mine with FedEx 2 day shipping, but there's no indication my dual 1 GHz will ship any time soon. I got the GeForce 4 Ti BTO, also. I'll definitely post here when I get it... I just don't expect I'll get it for a couple more weeks.

Power Mac G4 Dual 1.25GHz w/167MHz system bus
2.0GB PC2700 DDR SDRAM - 4 DIMMs
2x120GB Ultra ATA drive
Optical 1 - Apple SuperDrive
Optical 2 - Combo Drive (DVD/CD-RW)
NVIDIA GeForce4 Titanium dual-display w/128MB DDR
Apple Cinema HD Display (23" flat panel)
Apple Pro Keyboard - U.S. English
Harman Kardon SoundSticks
Accessory kit
Mac OS X - U.S. English
.Mac (Retail Box)
Getting Started with Mac OS X
Apple DVD-R media kit (5 pack)

Comes to roughly US$9,200.00; before taxes or rebates..

But I will not order until October... So I guess I will miss out on the rebate...

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[ 08-19-2002: Message edited by: MacRonin ]</p>

My dual 1 ghz with/geForce TI (ordered on the 13th) shipped on Saturday (17th). I called FedEx and it will be here tomorrow.

Now THAT is encouraging. I ordered mine on the 15th, configured exactly like yours. Wow, maybe I'll get mine in a couple more days then. Thanks for the info.

[quote]Orginally Posted By G-News:

Radeon 9700 with 64MB SDRAM?
WTF are you smoking?
first of all the Radeon 9700 isn't even orderable yet, as the PC version has just been released today (yesterday), the Mac versio is going to take some time. Secondly it's likely there will never be a version with less than 128MB RAM, and 3rd of all, it's never going to be anything less than DDR-SDRAM.

So I guess you got a 9000 Pro for now.

G-News
<hr></blockquote>


I apologize, I meant the 9000 Pro.

-CFPC

[quote]Originally posted by Bodhi:
<strong>If anyone ordered a new dual with a GeForceTi and it shipped, please post in here!</strong><hr></blockquote>

I ordered the dual 1GHZ with the following upgrades on the 13th:

Geforce 4 Ti, 120GB HD, 512MB

I don't have the e-mail in front of me, but a couple days ago, I received an e-mail that said there will be an up to 15day delay. Likewise, I'm curious to here when other's receive their machines as well.

On the plus side, I did receive my 17" LCD display yesterday ;-)

Steve

I'm not sure if the following is of help to those struggling with their decision to purchase the 1.25 GHz unit, especially if it is due to the shipping delay advised on Apple Store. It "might" be that they will be delivered a lot sooner than Apple Store currently indicates.

I placed the the order shown below on 14 August. As you can see it included a 22" Cinema display. I had anticipated early delivery of the display but after telephoning Apple Store was advised that it CANNOT be split form the main order. The two components formed one order and therefore MUST be delivered as one purchase unit. If I split the order I could get the display early, but loose the rebate. I decided to leave well alone and not give them the opportunity to screw things up. I received the following email today, which assume means 2/3 weeks for the full order since the display is still showing 1/2 days build on UK Apple Store.


Dear Apple Store Customer,

Thank you for choosing the Apple Store.

With reference to your recent order for a Power Mac G4, we are currently
experiencing delays in one or more of the key components
of your order and as such are now expecting to ship your order within the
next 2-3 weeks.

We sincerely apologize for this delay and appreciate your patience.

Kind regards,

Apple Store

[quote]

PURCHASE INFORMATION

Part Details:
\t Est
Line Part Number Description Quantity Cost Build Time
1 Custom Power Mac G4 Dual 1.25GHz 1 2331.06 6 - 8 Weeks
065-3703 Power Mac G4
065-3854 Dual 1.25GHz PowerPC G4
065-3704 512MB PC2700 DDR SDRAM -1 DIMM
065-3136 120GB Ultra ATA
065-3140 DVD-R/CD-RW
065-3778 ATI Radeon 9000 Pro 64MB, ADC/DVI
065-3232 Ultra SCSI PCI & cable adapter
B065-3138 56K internal modem
B065-3222 Apple Pro Keyboard
Z065-3126 Mac OS
B065-3125 Country kit
2 M8058ZM/A Apple Cinema Display (22" LCD) 1 1799.00 1 - 2 days <hr></blockquote>

I just hope they supply the resellers in time also, and not sell the available parts exclusively over their overpriced AppleStore.

G-News

I was holding out for a 1.25ghz, but I NEED it in 2 weeks, so it looks like I'll be getting a spiffy new 1ghz with a 22" Cinema Display. Good enough for me.

Has anybody heard of the 1.25ghz be available in the next 2 weeks? Ya, know... just in case.

It seems that the Ti is holding up a lot of orders.

Apple Manufacturing: "We only have 100 GeForce Ti's in stock and we are releasing a new Power Mac in a week. Should we order more?"

Apple Corporate: "nah, nobody will BTO the GeForce Ti..."