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post #41 of 51
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Originally posted by Common Man
It is expected that terrorism will rise a little during the war on terror. We are going after them and they are fighting back. We are, however, breaking their codes and getting into their inner workings. It is a tuff battle to stay one step ahead of these people, but so far we are. We must error on the side of caution in these times. Terror was like a festering wound deap in the heart of humanity. Cutting it out is not not easy and is sometimes messy, but I believe it is what has to be done to secure the future of the free world.

It's worse than that CM. We aren't apparently having an impact! Get it?

And yes it's really quite amazing the parallels you could draw between our times and 1984 or Brazil.

Keep em' busy with distraction and they won't pay any attention to the real problem.
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post #42 of 51
Patience! This is a problem that has brewed and been ignored for a long time. The results will show with time.
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post #43 of 51
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Patience! This is a problem that has brewed and been ignored for a long time. The results will show with time.

You don't get it. It hasn't been ignored.
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post #44 of 51
The Clintons depleated our military and intelligence capabilities to where we could do little or nothing. The Clintons did little when we were attacked . They fired a few rockets at supposed AQ camps and accomplished nothing. It has taken Presidient Bush three years just to get the military machine oiled once again.
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post #45 of 51
Heh. Do you even remember when the "Clintons" lead?
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post #46 of 51
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The information leading to the current alert is the direct result of hunting down terrorists.

Just so you know.
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post #47 of 51
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These guys? Maybe these guys? How about just in your home state? 53 hate groups. In the whole country? 751 active hate groups.

Maybe these guys? You know. They came back. Maybe these guys? How about these guys? These? Hell, how about any of your average homegrown right-wing nutjobs who want to bring down the federal government and restore America to what it was supposed to be?

ZING! ... KAPOW! ... BAM! ...
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post #48 of 51
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The Clintons depleated our military and intelligence capabilities to where we could do little or nothing. The Clintons did little when we were attacked . They fired a few rockets at supposed AQ camps and accomplished nothing. It has taken Presidient Bush three years just to get the military machine oiled once again.

The same military that toppled Afghanistan and Iraq? The same military equipment that Rumsfeld pushed for? The same small elite forces Cheney argued for in the Senate? All prior to and during the Clinton administration?
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post #49 of 51
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Patience! This is a problem that has brewed and been ignored for a long time. The results will show with time.

We've had 4 years and the indications are not good for your case. Also this ham fisted appoach to the situation goes against all logic.

Sorry I don't think we can afford to wait for a plan that already doesn't seem to be working and that makes no sense.
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post #50 of 51
If there is a sudden rise in terrorism, the BushCorp will say that we need to continue or ramp up the war on terrorism. If there is a decline in terrorism, BushCorp will say that current policies are working and we should continue or ramp up the war on terrorism.

In reality, as a result of the Iraq war and BushCorp foreign policy, the whole world is less safe now. The sharp rise in terrorist statistics since the start of the the war prove that. What about in the US? International terrorism here is extremely rare and always has been. Americans have a much greater chance of being hit by lightning than a terrorists bomb. Americans have an incalculably greater probability of being hit by domestic terrorists, such as inner city (Bloods, Crips etc) gangbangers doing carjackings, bankrobberies, or drive-by shootings etc etc etc etc.

Al Qaeda? Foreign terrorism? In America, they barely register on the risk chart, compared to the other hazards of living. If Bush gets 4 more years though, we shall probably have to revise that.
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post #51 of 51
George W. Bush, August 2nd 2004: Let me talk about the intelligence in Iraq. First of all, we all thought wed find stockpiles of weapons. We may still find weapons. We havent found them yet. Every person standing up here would say, 'Gosh, we thought it was going to be different.; As did congress, by the way. Member of both parties. And the United Nations. But what we do know is that Saddam Hussein had the capability of making weapons. And ... umm but let me just say this to you. Knowing what I know today, we still would have gone on into Iraq. We still would have gone to make our country more secure. He had the capability of making weapons. He had terrorist ties. The decision I made was the right decision. The world is better off without Saddam Hussein in power.

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