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post #81 of 279
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Originally posted by Cake
The main reason that Tice didn't challenge the catch is that they didn't replay the non-catch in the stadium.
So, the Eagles got it together and quickly kicked the extra point and then there is no challenge.

Of course, the officiating staff blew it in the first place...

Yeah, but the Vikings coaches upstairs should have a freaking TV and tell Tice "hey buddy, you gotta challenge this." Total non-sense. The playcalling was so crappy. No bomb passes to Moss? Anyway, this week the Vikings will burn the depleted Chicago secondary. I'm cashing in on Culpepper and Moss this week.
post #82 of 279
Packers @ Indanapolis:

9 TD passes combined, first running play for either team came in the 2nd quarter, etc, etc.!!

There were DB's in the game, right?


IMHO, barring a key injury, the Eagles will be in the NFC Championship again this year! (And hopefully win it this time! )

IRT the Vikes/Eagles, I agree on the TO catch, but the offical was behind TO, and at full speed it's hard to see the ball jiggling. Still think the Vikes would have lost, they kept choking in the endzone. And Dante was getting pressure/knocked down almost every pass, that's why he had to dink and dunk instead of going deep to Moss. Good to see the Eagles getting pressure from their front 4 after what happened to the line last year.
The Vikes are an impressive team, but IMHO they are not quite ready for primetime. Da Bears gave them all they could handle today!
(watch the Bears beat Philly next week after I said that!)
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post #83 of 279
That GB/Indy first quarter was the most outrageous quarter of football I may have ever seen.

I am not a total believer of the Eagles yet (actually, their run D specifically), but I am totally convinced of McNabb's skills finally. I mean, it's not the addition of Owens that's the difference maker IMO, it's that McNabb has obviously worked tirelessly on his accuracy, timing and decision making skills. That's the biggest difference with the Eagles's offense this year. McNabb makes passes that he just wasn't making last year, especially the "dink n' dunk" variety, through coverage, over defender but into receivers' hands, getting his passes on front of his receivers most of the time, behind them if it's safer, etc. He's on complete control over his decision making -- when to run, when to step up and throw, etc. He sees every target, and the coverage across the field, and can now use that arm strength to his advantage, like throwing across his body. If the Eagles don't win the Superbowl this year, it won't be McNabb's fault. IMO, forgetting the accomplishments of other active QB's (especially Favre), and the potential of others (especially Vick), he's arguably the best QB in the league right now, and probably will be for several years.
post #84 of 279
i feel good for philly these days. it looks like they will finally at least GET to the super bowl this year, and even though i hate t.o., he seems to hve made all the difference everyone suspected he might. wow.

okay, when will the bucs score an offensive touchdown this year? week five, maybe???

green bay/indy... awesome game that i missed due to yard chores. ugh. oh well. at least i got to see a very good saints/rams game (well, at the end).

i am stunned they are even trying to have the steelers/dolphins game right now. "gosh, florida, we know your state is in ruins, but maybe you'd like to check out an overpriced nfl game???"

houston. wow. kansas city... uh-oh.

carson palmer is not ready for primetime. but hey, the only way to learn is to get out there and play.

i am beginning to think there are only 5-6 good teams in the league right now, and the rest are mediocre at best. i don't care how big the lovefest gets for jacksonville... i will not call them "for-real" until after week 8. and even then, they could use another receiver.

didn't see the atlanta/arizona game, but was it as ugly as the score would imply???

seahawks are doing fantastic now. if they can win two more away games, and sweep their homers liek they usually do, they'll get a very high seed and force people to come WAY out west to play them, instead of going into lambeau in winter.

gonna be an interesting season.
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post #85 of 279
Bahh, I hate the bye week. The only team that matters is the Jets!
post #86 of 279
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Originally posted by BuonRotto
I am not a total believer of the Eagles yet (actually, their run D specifically)

There are a few other birds that are going to have their say before the NFC Championship rolls around.

The Seahawks are the real frickin' deal, and they get to play the Niners and Cardinals twice. That's 4 automatic wins in a 16 game schedule.

If Vick stays healthy and the Falcons offense starts to work in concert, the Falcons could be pretty dangerous too.
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post #87 of 279
Heard a talk radio sports guy say "jagwires" this morning. Southern accents tend to pronounce wire like "wa er", but never heard of the inverse.

Saw the Texans pull it out against the Chiefs yesterday. Man, in 2.15 seasons, the Texans never can win a game comfortably. It always come down to the end. Don't know if the Texans defensive line was really good or the Chiefs offensive line sucked, but the Texans put a lot of pressure on Trent Green and that made the difference at the end of the game.

I won't believe the Seahawks are the real deal until they make it to the NFC championship game.

Yeah, the Eagles have no excuses this year. They made it to the NFC championship game on McNabb's intangibles the last 3 years, but they've got all of the players and maturity now. Still, I thought the Vikes could have easily beat them last Monday if not for a few of Culpepper's and coaching's bad decisions and play.

The number 1 in my mind is still the Patriots.
post #88 of 279
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Originally posted by THT

Saw the Texans pull it out against the Chiefs yesterday. Man, in 2.15 seasons, the Texans never can win a game comfortably. It always come down to the end. Don't know if the Texans defensive line was really good or the Chiefs offensive line sucked, but the Texans put a lot of pressure on Trent Green and that made the difference at the end of the game.

The funny thing is, all 3 of their D-linemen went down in the game, and I think they started playing LBs at both 3-4 ends towards the end of the game. Antwain Peek wreaked havoc with his speed, and in the end it was the defense and clutch kicking that gave them the edge.

Not that the Texans didn't have help from the Chiefs coaching staff-they disrespected the Texans going for it on 4th-and-2 on the Texans 6, and when they didn't get it, they started calling time outs at the end of the first half when the Texans had the ball. They obviously thought the Texans would be forced to punt and wanted to have enough time left on the clock for a scoring drive, but instead they helped the Texans drive down and add 3 points. Dick Vermeil is the one who needs to be wearing diapers.
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post #89 of 279
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Steelers 3-1 . . . . and looking good . . .

Rookie Roesthlisberger QB:17 completions in 25 attempts for 174 yards no interceptions . . . . not bad at all for his first Home game . . . only better for here on out . . .
With Staley, H Ward, Randle El, Polumalu, Faneca . . . I think they have a real chance this year . . .
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post #90 of 279
Roethlisberger with extra Heinz, please...Steelers making a strong bid for the AFC North!

And how's about the Houston Texans getting inside the Raider's heads-4 INTs, 2 fumbles, numerous false starts, and a defensive TD! Of course, they're gonna have a tough time against another one of my favorite teams, the Vikings.

Have I been watching too much ESPN lately?
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post #91 of 279
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Originally posted by Gizzmonic
Texans v Vikings.

This is going to be difficult for me watch! My old home team versus the new home team. Actually, if it wasn't for my disappointment, bordering on hatred, for Culpepper, I would be pro-Vikings all the way! But alas no. The Vikings should crush the Texans though.

Didn't get to see Texans v Raiders, but Texans are a better than average team while the Raiders are capable of incredible lows. Glad to see the Texans win.

Patriots are still the best team in football.
post #92 of 279
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Originally posted by THT
This is going to be difficult for me watch! My old home team versus the new home team. Actually, if it wasn't for my disappointment, bordering on hatred, for Culpepper, I would be pro-Vikings all the way! But alas no. The Vikings should crush the Texans though.

Didn't get to see Texans v Raiders, but Texans are a better than average team while the Raiders are capable of incredible lows. Glad to see the Texans win.

Patriots are still the best team in football.

i don't know about that . . . the Vikings' #1 FBack is out with a knee injury and Ontario Smith just got suspended for marijuana
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post #93 of 279
i've never seen the nfl so diluted like it has seemed this year. there are 6-8 strong teams, MAYBE 4 teams mediocre, and the rest are bad, bad and awful bad.
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post #94 of 279
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Patriots are still the best team in football.

We'll see. The first real test since their opener against Indy is in two weeks. My gut feeling is that both the Seahawks AND Eagles will finish the year with better records than the Pats.
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post #95 of 279
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Originally posted by rok
i've never seen the nfl so diluted like it has seemed this year. there are 6-8 strong teams, MAYBE 4 teams mediocre, and the rest are bad, bad and awful bad.

It is still early in the season . . . but yeah there does seem to be a real chasm between the really good teams (Pats, colts, Seahawks, Eagles than the rest of the pack . . . with a coupla solid very-bads: 49ers, Dolphins, Bucs.

I think things will shake out and some surprises will ensue . . . I think that the Steelers will continue to move up, Baltimore down and the Colts will fall . . . eventually the Pats will lose a game . . . something tells me they'll lose to a team with black and yellow markings around Halloween! heehee. The Chiefs will continue to climb The Seahawks will stay pretty much the same and the Vikings had a real chance a greatness but puffed it away

Anyway, It seems like this year injuries are playing a much larger role than before . . . good teams are devastated by so many . .

I swear these big buffed dudes who can bench a zillion pounds and run fast NEED to learn real flexibility and health . . . if I were a coach, I'd risk being called a freak and I'd force my team to learn and appreciate YOGA . . . both the physical aspects and the respect for the mind/body philosophy . . . get them understanding the deeper ideas of stress, force, relaxation and the increased strength of targetted exertion . . . . these big burly guys waste alot of energy and are unecessarily stiff and bulky . . . subtlety would reveal them to be awkwardly overdeveloped in wastful directions . . . and they wouldn't hurt themselves so easily either.
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post #96 of 279
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Originally posted by pfflam
Anyway, It seems like this year injuries are playing a much larger role than before . . . good teams are devastated by so many . .

I swear these big buffed dudes who can bench a zillion pounds and run fast NEED to learn real flexibility and health . . . if I were a coach, I'd risk being called a freak and I'd force my team to learn and appreciate YOGA . . . both the physical aspects and the respect for the mind/body philosophy . . . get them understanding the deeper ideas of stress, force, relaxation and the increased strength of targetted exertion . . . . these big burly guys waste alot of energy and are unecessarily stiff and bulky . . . subtlety would reveal them to be awkwardly overdeveloped in wastful directions . . . and they wouldn't hurt themselves so easily either.

Remember Herschel Walker? AFAIK, he never had a bad injury his whole career, (college, USFL, NFL) he was into Karate(or Kung Fu?), and even ballet during the offseason. He also said he never used weight training, just resistance/running!
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post #97 of 279
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Originally posted by iPoster
Remember Herschel Walker? AFAIK, he never had a bad injury his whole career, (college, USFL, NFL) he was into Karate(or Kung Fu?), and even ballet during the offseason. He also said he never used weight training, just resistance/running!

There you go!

If there is doubt as to what martial arts . . . I would say Tea Kwon Do . . . if I remember correctly that is the one that is all about using balance, and your oponents wieght against them . . . as well as discipline and concentration and speed.
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post #98 of 279
Saw the 4th quarter and OT of the Vikings v Texans. Good game! The big problem with the Vikings for a long time now is that they can't hold onto the lead, and pull through with the clutch score or clutch stop in the 4th quarter to stop the opposing team from making it too close for comfort, or losing. They couldn't make a few first downs or score in the last half of the 4th quarter when they really needed to. Luckily they pulled it out in the end.

David Carr is definitely a more accurate passer than Culpepper, on average. Or at least demonstrates a stronger arm and put passes in just the right places for Andre Johnson. Texans really need to play 4 quarters instead of 1 or 2.
post #99 of 279
That Rams-Seahawks game was a travesty, at least from the Seahawks' point of view.

And does anyone else think the Falcons are still pretenders at this point?
post #100 of 279
some good games this weekend. damn near fell asleep during redskins/ravens, though.

my bucs FINALLY won, and they picked a good time to do it. i mean, it's their first divisional game, and on the road. the only silver lining to their piss-poor start was that all the losses were outside the division (and two weren't even in the conference). still, though, the running game does not dominate, their defense cannot close games like it used to, and the offense needs galloway back for any sense of a deep threat (ronde barber is the team's leading touchdown maker, if that gives you any idea). i always thought griese was put in the worst possible situations, following elway and living in his father's shadow. but he's solid, and has learned a lot. will he win it all for you? no. but at least he'll make the games watchable again.
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post #101 of 279
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Originally posted by BuonRotto
That Rams-Seahawks game was a travesty, at least from the Seahawks' point of view.

And does anyone else think the Falcons are still pretenders at this point?

Heck, the entire NFC looks like pretenders.
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post #102 of 279
My $.02 so far this season....

Contenders:
New England, Seattle, Eagles, Colts, Steelers

Pretenders:
Vikings, Falcons, Dallas, Rams, Carolina

Jury's out: \
Giants, Jets, S.D., Jacksonville, Packers, Bears

Fighting for the #1 pick:
San Francisco, Miami, KC, Cincinnati, Bucs, Bills

'Big' Ben Roethlisberger and David Carr will be making plenty of trips to Hawaii in the future...

When is Miami's ownership going to realize Dave Wannstedt can't coach offense, Ricky or no Ricky?

Mikchael Vick is a tremendous physical talent, but he's putting up mediocre passing numbers so far...

Seattle V New England is the 'Game of the Week' next weekend...
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post #103 of 279
Packers got 0wned!
post #104 of 279
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Originally posted by iPoster
My $.02 so far this season....

Contenders:
New England, Seattle, Eagles, Colts, Steelers

Pretenders:
Vikings, Falcons, Dallas, Rams, Carolina

Jury's out: \
Giants, Jets, S.D., Jacksonville, Packers, Bears

Fighting for the #1 pick:
San Francisco, Miami, KC, Cincinnati, Bucs, Bills

'Big' Ben Roethlisberger and David Carr will be making plenty of trips to Hawaii in the future...

When is Miami's ownership going to realize Dave Wannstedt can't coach offense, Ricky or no Ricky?

Mikchael Vick is a tremendous physical talent, but he's putting up mediocre passing numbers so far...

Seattle V New England is the 'Game of the Week' next weekend...

i know this is just based on five games, but i still stand by the fact that no one can judge more than one or two teams on the quality of their first 5 games. throw in two or three wins in a row for ANY of those you mentioned, and you've got a horse-race again. eventually, someone starts winnign because everyone on their schedule starts to suck more and more. i stand by my belief that you cannot figure out who is really good until games 8-10. if you can enter game 8 at 4-4 or higher, you're legit (barring a great collapse like minnesota last year)

re: michael vick - remember this is a new offense for him. hell, even kyle boller has had more time int he west-coast offense than vick has.

re: miami's ownership - um, you're asking a lot from those yahoos. does huizenga still own part of them? that man has his head so far up his own ass... but hey, he owns blockbuster, so what does he care?
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post #105 of 279
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Originally posted by rok
if you can enter game 8 at 4-4 or higher, you're legit (barring a great collapse like minnesota last year)

Don't forget the Giants!

Packers are in pretty deep doodoo. Their defense has been terrible. I'm a bit surprised about hwo bad it's been, but then again, I've been suspect of their corners and safeties for a while (getting by with uncalled penalties much of last year).
post #106 of 279
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Contenders:
I say that the top five are still the top five:
Eagles, Pats, Seahawks. Colts, Jets

Then the next tier NOT pretenders:
NYGiants, Vikings, Jaguars, Steelers!, Broncos, Ravens

Very GOOD teams that may surprise:
Chargers (new 2nd favorite team Du Jour), Lions, Chiefs, Titans

The Rams and the Cowboys fall under the catagory of Decent-troublesome-but-who-are-they-kidding teams

Falcons and Texans are in the catagory of: they will pull of some stunners but remain low in the rankings starting around game 8 teams.

The rest suck . . . even if they have the talent something is keeping them from playing well . . . something like the opposing team.


BTW: what is up with that Charger Powder blue outfit? I like it, but does that mean that they no longer play with their dark blue pants and jersey and helmet? That was a great uniform too!
Are the powder Blue uniforms some kind of 'vintage' thing? the numbers on the helmoets seem like that . . . . which is totally coolo-man

PPSBTW: Sherman should get the ax right away . . . . his coaching was the single reason that the Packers did not beat the Eagles in last years playoffs . . . his terrible play calling in the clutch . . . and now he is running blitzs and getting burned every single time he does it . . . so what does he do? he runs more blitzs and gets burned again!!
Not that I care . . . I can't stand the Packers . . . but I am here in Wisconsin now and have to deal with disgruntled Cheesers . . . . its better when they are nice . . .
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post #107 of 279
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Originally posted by pfflam
BTW: what is up with that Charger Powder blue outfit? I like it, but does that mean that they no longer play with their dark blue pants and jersey and helmet? That was a great uniform too!
Are the powder Blue uniforms some kind of 'vintage' thing? the numbers on the helmoets seem like that . . . . which is totally coolo-man

yes, every year lately, san diego rolls out their original powder-blue uniforms. not sure why, but i like the change up. reminds you where your franchise came from. i think all franchises should do the same. i think it started when the nfl had their 70th anniversary or something, and every team had to wear their vintage uniform at least once. hell, the packers were nearly unrecognizable. ;-)

personally, i hate the powder-blues, but to each his own...
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post #108 of 279
Considering that SD had their best years as a franchise in those unis, and a notoriously poor life with the bark blue, they might be wise to revert. Chris Berman never misses the opportunity to declare that the powder blue uniforms are, in his opinion, the best unis for any sports team, ever. I suppose if the Bucaneers had any success with their citrus colors, he would have loved them just as much. For such a man's man game, they've gone through some pretty dainty color schemes for football uniforms.

...segue something clever here...

There's a lot of parity in terms of talent, but a lack of passion from players. Everyone want to be the Pats, but they don't want to put the effort in, and why should they? Hell, three years on the practice squad makes for a decent pension now. Also, as much as the so-called West Coast offense makes for proficient ball movement, each coach now has their own species of it and it takes 3 years for everyone to come on board when lots of players change teams each season. I don't think players study as much either. Sometimes I think these guys just eat cheesburgers, run 50 meter sprints and do dealifts all day.

The Packers D gets burned with or without blitzing packages. There's just not enough to go around, not enough speed, not enough size.
post #109 of 279
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Originally posted by BuonRotto
Considering that SD had their best years as a franchise in those unis, and a notoriously poor life with the bark blue, they might be wise to revert. Chris Berman never misses the opportunity to declare that the powder blue uniforms are, in his opinion, the best unis for any sports team, ever. I suppose if the Bucaneers had any success with their citrus colors, he would have loved them just as much. For such a man's man game, they've gone through some pretty dainty color schemes for football uniforms.

I was stationed in S.D. for several years, around the time they started with the throwback unis. They were uber-popular with the hometown crowds, and I personally like them more than their current uniform.
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post #110 of 279
I agree that the Powder Blues are the way to go for the chargers.

Speaking of old school Chargers how about this............

http://www.chargers.com/fan_zone/superchargers.cfm
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I was at the Raiders/Denver game. What an ugly affair for the Silver and Black! I've been a Raider fan since my teen's and I've seen some bad Raider teams. This performance was down there among the worst...

There was a late 60'-somthing couple in all their Denver color glory sitting among my group of fifteen (Raider) friends. Man, they had a GREAT time hoot'n and a holler'n. Brave and maybe a touch nuts! Despite the popular image of RaiderNation, they weren't hasseled. Of course, we walked them to their car anyway.

The Oakland crowd are not quite as insane as the LA crowd.
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post #112 of 279
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Originally posted by hardhead
The Oakland crowd are not quite as insane as the LA crowd.

Those weren't Raiders fans, those were looters and rioters. </tasteless joke>
post #113 of 279
The last season the Raiders were in LA I went to see the Chargers play them (the year the Chargers went to the Super Bowl). The Chargers picked them apart of course. Nothing against the Raiders, Chargers were awesome that year. Anyway two weeks prior the Steelers were there and a Steeler fan got beaten into a coma. So when I went to the game I wore nothing that would mistake me for a Charger fan. Just to be on the safe side!
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Unfortunately, the Raiders seem to have more than their lion's share of A-holes who call themselves "fans". That stabbing incident you refer to, and it's happened more than once, puts a pall on the entire RaiderNation. It's inexcusable. That particular jerk is STILL behind bars. The vast majority of Raider fans are just passionate about the team.

Particularly at Oakland, we tend to police our own most of the time. I've been at quite a few games were some drunken or thugish A-holes started getting carried away with their harrassment of the opposing team's fans, and Raider fans stepped in to stop it before security.

In my experience, Philly Eagle's fans are the most obnoxious overall. No offense to any AI'er Eagles fans. You are going to take some hard and ugly harrassment to see your team play the Eagles in their house. I've been there as a Raider fan and as a Oilers (RIP) fan.
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Big game this week: Steelers vs the Patriots
at Heinz field in Pittsburgh!!!!


Gonna be a telling game for my team.

I will probably be trick or treating with my daughter when Vinniateri tries to pull off another completely undeserved win for the Pats!!

I say:
Steelers 18 (of all numbers)
Pats: 17

anybody take gentlmen (gentlpersons) bets?
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post #116 of 279
Pittsburg is an excellent team right now pfflam. However, the Chowds are on a roll. They play mistake-free(MOST of the time...) football. I don't think your team is going to be able to stop them.

I hope Pittsburg can deflate them a notch...
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post #117 of 279
I've seen plenty of mistakes from the Pats in recent weeks. It's just that they haven't been burned by them too much yet.
post #118 of 279
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Originally posted by BuonRotto
I've seen plenty of mistakes from the Pats in recent weeks. It's just that they haven't been burned by them too much yet.

They just got burned. 21-3. The game's not over though.
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post #119 of 279
Didn't see MN lose to NY, but this is the modus operandi of the Vikings for a long while. Lots of pretending. Not sure how they could fix it.

Didn't see Houston beat Jacksonville either, but yeah! They could actually win the division this year. The Colts are like the Vikings, so I wouldn't be surprised if they fade some more. And the Jags has to come back to Earth as well. You can't win that many games at the last minute forever.

Watching Michael Vick right now (instead of Pats v Steelers )! Cool...
post #120 of 279
The Vikings game brings up a beef I have with "The NFL on FOX." FOX has on several occasions switched telecasts to more exciting football games when the normally scheduled national game is a blow-out. That happened with the Vikings game as they switched to the Cowboys/Lions game, which I was already recording on a different FOX feed. Really annoying, but FOX NFL coverage is still better than CBS's. I wish ESPN/ABC had the NFL contract, jeez.
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