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post #1 of 170
8/3/04 at 11:09am
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Wow does this look impressive.

http://www.thinksecret.com/news/deliciouslibrary.html

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post #2 of 170
8/3/04 at 11:52am
Great Job to Mike Matas, Greg Titus and Wil Shipley. Can't forget the original author Andrew K as well. This is how Mac software is supposed to look. Inviting and easy but yet powerful at the same time. I'll definitely be buying this program. Love the iSight scanning feature, that's worth the price of admission alone IMO.
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post #3 of 170
8/3/04 at 12:24pm
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Originally posted by hmurchison
Great Job to Mike Matas, Greg Titus and Wil Shipley. Can't forget the original author Andrew K as well. This is how Mac software is supposed to look. Inviting and easy but yet powerful at the same time. I'll definitely be buying this program. Love the iSight scanning feature, that's worth the price of admission alone IMO.

I could not have said it better. It is applications like these that make using a Macintosh stand out. You just cannot get this kind of beauty on Windows, and even if someone tried it would be crippled and most likely dog slow.
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post #4 of 170
8/3/04 at 11:51pm
this is a must have
really looks good and at home we all love our movies and books!
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post #5 of 170
8/4/04 at 4:16am
Does the bar code scanning work with a regular digital camera?
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post #6 of 170
8/4/04 at 5:03am
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Originally posted by Agent Macintosh
Does the bar code scanning work with a regular digital camera?

Yes.
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post #7 of 170
8/4/04 at 8:30am
Wow! This software looks cool! I'll definitely be picking this up.

[edit] Does anyone know what the price of admission will be for this software?
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post #8 of 170
8/4/04 at 8:55am
Now that really seems like an interesting application. The interface seems attractive and easy to use as well and looks at home with other iLife apps. I'll probably pick up a copy when it's available.

I really like the idea of using the iSight to read the codes. Very slick indeed. I may break down and get one at some point.
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post #9 of 170
8/4/04 at 10:31am
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Originally posted by Bancho
Now that really seems like an interesting application. The interface seems attractive and easy to use as well and looks at home with other iLife apps. I'll probably pick up a copy when it's available.

I really like the idea of using the iSight to read the codes. Very slick indeed. I may break down and get one at some point.

I'm with you. This is probably the first killer app (beyond iChat AV, but you have to have someone on the other end) that makes me want to get an iSight.

Although if it works with digicams I may just use my Rebel.
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post #10 of 170
8/4/04 at 10:43am
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I'm with you. This is probably the first killer app (beyond iChat AV, but you have to have someone on the other end) that makes me want to get an iSight.

My thoughts exactly. Very cool app. One more fix for the anal-retentive among us!
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post #11 of 170
8/4/04 at 11:16am
it will most likely have an option to buy a cheap USB bar-code reader with the software... If I had to guess I would think something like $20-$30 for it. Maybe cheaper. The software itself will probably cost the same, unless they want to make a killing (and they have every right to) and price it near $50-$70...
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post #12 of 170
8/4/04 at 11:44am
Holy crap that looks slick.

I'm getting it. And I'm getting it for my mom, too, since she's up to her eyeballs in books.

Unfortunately, a lot of those books predate bar codes, sometimes by a century or so...
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post #13 of 170
8/4/04 at 11:54am
Looks very nice. I'm trying to decide if it's overkill for inventory, or what I could really use it for. I understand that it's targeting real libraries as much as anyone else, and that it does sync with one's iPod so you have book info on the go for what that's worth.

Hm, I'm really trying to find an excuse to get it.
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post #14 of 170
8/4/04 at 1:37pm
what happens if Amazon changes their database system? or if a book isn't in their system?

seems odd to depend on a store's inventory and website for data retrieval. or am i missing something?
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post #15 of 170
8/4/04 at 1:50pm
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Originally posted by applenut
what happens if Amazon changes their database system? or if a book isn't in their system?

seems odd to depend on a store's inventory and website for data retrieval. or am i missing something?

Amazon offers web services for precisely this sort of application.
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post #16 of 170
8/4/04 at 2:08pm
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Originally posted by Amorph
Amazon offers web services for precisely this sort of application.

well that explains it
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post #17 of 170
8/4/04 at 3:16pm
I hope they offer skins for the boards to match your furniture - I really am not into this whole cheesy looking wood thing. It would be cool if it would be able reflect the trends in contemporary (and maybe even historic) furnishing.
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post #18 of 170
8/4/04 at 4:04pm
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I hope they offer skins for the boards to match your furniture - I really am not into this whole cheesy looking wood thing. It would be cool if it would be able reflect the trends in contemporary (and maybe even historic) furnishing.

exactly!

GarageBand's wood trim cr*p gotta go too
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post #19 of 170
8/4/04 at 4:11pm
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Originally posted by Amorph
Amazon offers web services for precisely this sort of application.

What if Amazon goes down?
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post #20 of 170
8/4/04 at 4:32pm
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Originally posted by RolandG
I hope they offer skins for the boards to match your furniture - I really am not into this whole cheesy looking wood thing. It would be cool if it would be able reflect the trends in contemporary (and maybe even historic) furnishing.

i guess you didn't notice that there is at least one alternate "metal shelf" theme in there.



but hey, i like the wood in THIS context.
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post #21 of 170
8/4/04 at 4:35pm
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Originally posted by applenut
what happens if Amazon changes their database system? or if a book isn't in their system?

seems odd to depend on a store's inventory and website for data retrieval. or am i missing something?

well, no, you're right. but when you're a small developer, you have to take what you can get. and a LOT of apps have made hooks into the amazon system for stuff such as this. but you take your money and you bet the pony that you think will at least place. amazon seems like a safe bet, at least for the next few years, after which everyone will have wetware cranial insertion points for their ipods and we won't need to catalog any of this earth-bound stuff anymore (hey, imagine spotlight enhanced vision!)
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post #22 of 170
8/4/04 at 5:14pm
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What if Amazon goes down?

You mean like I've been wishing they would?

Well, Apple and Amazon could both go down at the same time that the internet is abandoned to spammers and Mt. Rainer buries Seattle in boiling mud, but in the meantime I can't really blame them for offering what they can with what's available.

I could wish for integration with a cooler bookstore, like Powell's, though...
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post #23 of 170
8/4/04 at 5:36pm
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Well, Apple and Amazon could both go down at the same time that the internet is abandoned to spammers and Mt. Rainer buries Seattle in boiling mud

Hey! I got family here!

I like this app. For insurance purposes it would be nice to be able to backup the data and any pertinent info to a CD along with photographs of the physical libraries. In the event of theft or fire it'd be a lot easier to deal with your insurance company.
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post #24 of 170
8/4/04 at 5:44pm
And Amazon has a very extense catalog. So it works to use it for this type of applications.
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post #25 of 170
8/4/04 at 7:41pm
I agree that it rocks. I wonder if it will support automatically loading and playing dvd disc images. In a couple years when cheap terabyte drives are available and you will be able to copy your entire DVD collection to them.

I, for one, have always dreamed of having all my media accessable through my mac.

Don't get me started on the books...
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post #26 of 170
8/5/04 at 3:49am
looks fab!

wondering how it will deal with music already in my itunes library? hopefully it will just import it in automatically -- don't want to get into digging out all my cd's again as i've only just finished ripping them!
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post #27 of 170
8/5/04 at 4:18am
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I agree that it rocks. I wonder if it will support automatically loading and playing dvd disc images. In a couple years when cheap terabyte drives are available and you will be able to copy your entire DVD collection to them.

I, for one, have always dreamed of having all my media accessable through my mac.

Don't get me started on the books...

No...this isn't a launcher...it's a cataloger of physical objects.

I'm currently working on a ROM launcher for emulators. I might do something similar for DVD rips, eBooks, and installed games.
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post #28 of 170
8/5/04 at 6:03am
any idea when this is going to be released?
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post #29 of 170
8/5/04 at 12:31pm
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any idea when this is going to be released?

I emailed Mike Matas and he said sometime within the next month or two!
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post #30 of 170
8/6/04 at 5:45am
just thinking -- hope they have an option to change the amazon store you can use i.e. US or UK.

uk covers are sometimes different to us ones!
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post #31 of 170
8/6/04 at 6:28pm
I hope they have a hidden "other" category where you can scan anything with a barcode. It would be pretty cool if I could have an inventory of EVERYTHING that comes into my house.

I mean, Amazon sells just about everything as it is. I'd love to scan in appliances, tools, etc. and create a file with scans of my reciepts and waranty information.

Yeah, yeah.. I know, it's a little beyond it's purpose, but this software certainly has the capability, why not leave it enabled for the adventurous?
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post #32 of 170
8/7/04 at 4:49pm
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Originally posted by Nordstrodamus
I hope they have a hidden "other" category where you can scan anything with a barcode. It would be pretty cool if I could have an inventory of EVERYTHING that comes into my house.

I mean, Amazon sells just about everything as it is. I'd love to scan in appliances, tools, etc. and create a file with scans of my reciepts and waranty information.

Yeah, yeah.. I know, it's a little beyond it's purpose, but this software certainly has the capability, why not leave it enabled for the adventurous?

If they did this, they'd have a whole new market to sell to; people who want all of the belongings (and appropriate sales receipts) recorded in case their house goes up in flames. Heck, use the iSight to take pics and stick the pics on the shelves even.
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post #33 of 170
8/8/04 at 10:29am
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i guess you didn't notice that there is at least one alternate "metal shelf" theme in there.



but hey, i like the wood in THIS context.

The metal shelf is what appears under Incoming, which is where all imported items start out. Scanned items that successfully get information returned from Amazon move into the appropriate collection. As the information is retrieved the box on the shelf indicates that it's getting the info. If an error of some kind happens (like information is not found) the box then indicates that and you can select the item and manually enter the details on the right hand side.
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post #34 of 170
9/13/04 at 4:58am
Is there an ETA for this yet?
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post #35 of 170
9/13/04 at 4:24pm
I TOO THINK THAT THIS LOOKS GOOD!!! But only because I am anally retentive, and love the idea of cataloging all my belongings (I got DVDmanager from version tracker last week and am half way thru entering all my dvd's... but will stop now and wait for this).

One question tho... If you already own the product (DVD for example), why would you then buy it from Amazon? Why do you need the Buy Now Option? Surely you wouldn't be cataloging things you plan on buying in the near future?

And who ever finds out about a release date, post it here so we can all get our dirty little mits all over this thing.

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post #36 of 170
9/13/04 at 6:51pm
The co-developer (graphics developer), Michael Matas used to be a regular over here, speling mistakes and all . He's like 17 years old now. Wish he would come and visit us sometimes, and tell us about his product.
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post #37 of 170
9/13/04 at 7:07pm
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The co-developer (graphics developer), Michael Matas used to be a regular over here, speling mistakes and all . He's like 17 years old now. Wish he would come and visit us sometimes, and tell us about his product.

Hehe! Poor guy, that's all people ever talked about...his spelling mistakes.
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post #38 of 170
9/13/04 at 7:45pm
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Hehe! Poor guy, that's all people ever talked about...his spelling mistakes.

No, his icons were really nice, and that's what got him the gig with Omni. Now, looking at what he's done with Library 3.0, I'm amazed. That kid is awesome.
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post #39 of 170
9/13/04 at 8:42pm
I emailed michael matas last night and asked him when we could expect a full version of this to be completed and he replied, "Hopefully, in about a month". I didn't ask about price but that at least gives everyone a time frame to save up for.
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post #40 of 170
9/13/04 at 11:52pm
Maybe you should ask him the price

And tell him to hurry up.... surely he can see that he has a waiting audience, just because he is developing for Apple doesn't mean he needs to act like them

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