or Connect
AppleInsider › Forums › Mac Hardware › Future Apple Hardware › Doom3 to run on new iMac?
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Doom3 to run on new iMac?

post #1 of 248
Thread Starter 
Just received the Quiktime newsletter:

Now shipping, the highly-anticipated third videogame in the Doom series will not only challenge the best gamers, but also scare the bejesus out of them.

In Doom 3 you are a Marine posted as extra security at the Union Aerospace Corporations Mars Research Facility. Everythings cool until a bunch of nasty demons from hell invade the facility, turn most of your colleagues into zombies and leave you wandering dark halls trying to save the day.

In all likelihood, id Software/Activision probably designed enough visual effects to frighten you in Doom 3. But to make sure you have the full fright experience, they added some gross inhuman sounds to exercise your imagination and asked Trent Reznor from Nine Inch Nails to compose some chilling music for the game.

If youre prepared for the horror, check out the Doom 3 game trailer.

Wishful thinking new iMac shipping with Doom3.....
post #2 of 248
I agree !

I remember how disappointed I was when I bought my first iMac 450 DV+ and it couldn´t play unReal tournament on full settings !

Doom3, Halo and UT2003/2004 should be playing flawlessly on a new iMac. I am not a pro, but as many others, there is children involved and they play games !!!
I´ll get back to you.
Reply
I´ll get back to you.
Reply
post #3 of 248
Quote:
Originally posted by zenarcade
I agree !

I remember how disappointed I was when I bought my first iMac 450 DV+ and it couldn?t play unReal tournament on full settings !

I would not be surprised if the same happens with Doom3 in the new iMac.
post #4 of 248
Rumor has it that a port for Doom II is in the works and the specs on the new iMac will just be enough to run it.

post #5 of 248
A buddy of mine has a 2.5 ghz computer (windows) with 512 megs of ram and an n'videa 5200 128mb(overclocked) and he can only play doom3 ar 800x600 with the graphics set at the second to top setting. so unless the ID guys do something insane with open GL that they just could not do with DX9, you will need a top-end PM and a 6800 to enjoy it properly.
You can't quantify how much I don't care -- Bob Kevoian of the Bob and Tom Show.
Reply
You can't quantify how much I don't care -- Bob Kevoian of the Bob and Tom Show.
Reply
post #6 of 248
Quote:
Originally posted by a_greer
A buddy of mine has a 2.5 ghz computer (windows) with 512 megs of ram and an n'videa 5200 128mb(overclocked) and he can only play doom3 ar 800x600 with the graphics set at the second to top setting. so unless the ID guys do something insane with open GL that they just could not do with DX9, you will need a top-end PM and a 6800 to enjoy it properly.

A couple of things; HardOCP has gotten better results on lesser hardware, so your buddy may need to look at what's going on in Windows.

Also, id specifically mentioned that overclocked video cards could be a problem since Doom III uses circuits on these cards that have been basically dormant until now.
post #7 of 248
Specifically, from HardOCP's article:

Quote:
If you have a 1.5GHz Pentium and a 3D card that has been made in the last couple of years, you should be able to enjoy the DOOM 3 experience as it was meant to be.

Don't forget: DOOM 3 cost around $20 million to make. The more machines it runs on, the better the odds that id can make their investment back plus enough to finance their next game, profit handsomely, and buy Carmack a few more Ferraris or a spare rocket.

The new iMac should run DOOM 3 just fine. In fact, I wouldn't be shocked to hear that id got a test mule to play with to ensure that. It wouldn't be the first time they'd used the iMac as a target platform...
"...within intervention's distance of the embassy." - CvB

Original music:
The Mayflies - Black earth Americana. Now on iTMS!
Becca Sutlive - Iowa Fried Rock 'n Roll - now on iTMS!
Reply
"...within intervention's distance of the embassy." - CvB

Original music:
The Mayflies - Black earth Americana. Now on iTMS!
Becca Sutlive - Iowa Fried Rock 'n Roll - now on iTMS!
Reply
post #8 of 248
Quote:
Originally posted by PBG4 Dude
A couple of things; HardOCP has gotten better results on lesser hardware, so your buddy may need to look at what's going on in Windows.

Also, id specifically mentioned that overclocked video cards could be a problem since Doom III uses circuits on these cards that have been basically dormant until now.

interesting.
You can't quantify how much I don't care -- Bob Kevoian of the Bob and Tom Show.
Reply
You can't quantify how much I don't care -- Bob Kevoian of the Bob and Tom Show.
Reply
post #9 of 248
Well, my gaming rig is a P4 2.0GHz, a gig of RAM, and a Radeon 9700 Pro; not the least powerful, but a damn fine machine if I do say so myself.
Anyway, Doom 3 runs okay at 800x600 on high or 1024x768 on medium. Not wonderfully, but a pretty steady 30fps normally, stuttering to arouns 10fps in a firefight or when a lot is happening.
post #10 of 248
Check out the posts here: --> http://forums.newdoom.com/showthread...8&page=1&pp=20

People seem to be figuring out ways to get Doom III to run better.
post #11 of 248
Quote:
Originally posted by a_greer
A buddy of mine has a 2.5 ghz computer (windows) with 512 megs of ram and an n'videa 5200 128mb(overclocked) and he can only play doom3 ar 800x600 with the graphics set at the second to top setting. so unless the ID guys do something insane with open GL that they just could not do with DX9, you will need a top-end PM and a 6800 to enjoy it properly.

I think well see Tiger, and Core Image before DOOM 3 is ready for the Mac anyway. By Then they will be able to leverage the GPU with Core Image, and OpenGL 2.0 to their hearts content, and most likely get some fantastic results.


The thing that I think is interesting is that DOOM 3 is being ported to Linux before they start the Mac version, so why Apple even bothered putting that in the QT newsletter is beyond me. We probably wont see that game for like 5 months at least.
onlooker
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: parts unknown




http://www.apple.com/feedback/macpro.html
Reply
onlooker
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: parts unknown




http://www.apple.com/feedback/macpro.html
Reply
post #12 of 248
Quote:
The new iMac should run DOOM 3 just fine. In fact, I wouldn't be shocked to hear that id got a test mule to play with to ensure that. It wouldn't be the first time they'd used the iMac as a target platform...

I would be suprised if the new iMac could run Doom III at an acceptable framerate and resolution....

Im running a PC... Athlon Xp 2400+ (2.0 ghz) 512 mb Ram, Radeon 9800 Pro (128mb)....

I run Doom III @ 1280x1024 @ around 30fps...

I have a friend who has a Pentium 4 2.66ghz, 512mb ram and a 9600 Pro... he has a hard time running it @ 800x600 with lowest quality graphics on.

This game requires a VERY high end video card... something I dont see Apple putting in the next gen imac.
post #13 of 248
Quote:
Originally posted by zenarcade
Doom3, Halo and UT2003/2004 should be playing flawlessly on a new iMac. I am not a pro, but as many others, there is children involved and they play games !!!

Those are probably the last games you want your kids to be playing.


I don't think Apple should feel obliged to make Doom3 run on highest settingson the new iMacs. (The thing is, it'll run at 600*800 on Low just fine on the latest iMacs, and it looks stunning, even at those settings)
post #14 of 248
I play Doom 3 on an Athlon 3200 XP with a Radeon 9800 pro and a Gig of DDR400. Very nice setup. This machine runs it at 1024x768 at around 40fps constant, and never seems to get juttery ever, which looking at some of the benchmarks for the game on the web, seems a little odd.

No one can put this game at ultra settings and run it properly as it requires 512MB of Video Ram on your graphics card. It'll be interesting to see if a nVidia SLI system -basically two 6800 GTs or 6800 ultras plugged together- (I'll be using one in a few months) would be recognised by Doom 3 as a single 512MB card

As for the new iMacs, they should come with a form of a 9800, but it might end up being a Radeon X600 or something like that. Doom 3 will run on an iMac just fine, in fact it should run ok on older macs hopefully, otherwise ID won't have many mac users to sell the game to -judging by the sort of cpu needed on the windows side, only those with new 1.5Ghz powerbooks and G5s will be able to run the game.
Abhor the Stereotype, respect the Individual.
1.33Ghz 15" Powerbook: 80GB HD, 1GB RAM, OSX.4.7, Soundsticks II, 320GB LaCie FW800 EXT HD, iPod 20GB 4G
Reply
Abhor the Stereotype, respect the Individual.
1.33Ghz 15" Powerbook: 80GB HD, 1GB RAM, OSX.4.7, Soundsticks II, 320GB LaCie FW800 EXT HD, iPod 20GB 4G
Reply
post #15 of 248
You think Apple will put a better video card in the imac than the PM?
post #16 of 248
Quote:
Originally posted by MajorMatt
You think Apple will put a better video card in the imac than the PM?

What video card is better than a 6800 Ultra DDL? (Basically a Nvidia Geforce FX 6800 Ultra Apple style with double the DVI plugs) Did Nvidia come out with a better card already? Because ATI cant match it on a Mac. Maybe on PC, (but I doubt it)
There is no DirectX on a Mac. So your argument is all about OpenGL and ATI doesn't come close to matching Nvidia in OpenGL.
onlooker
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: parts unknown




http://www.apple.com/feedback/macpro.html
Reply
onlooker
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: parts unknown




http://www.apple.com/feedback/macpro.html
Reply
post #17 of 248
As a side note, what's the best aftermarket card I can buy for DOOM III, assuming it ships for the Mac sometime soon?
"Hearing a corrupt CEO like Cheney denigrate Edwards for being a trial lawyer is like hearing a child molester complain how Larry Flint is a pervert." -johnq
Reply
"Hearing a corrupt CEO like Cheney denigrate Edwards for being a trial lawyer is like hearing a child molester complain how Larry Flint is a pervert." -johnq
Reply
post #18 of 248
Quote:
Originally posted by bunge
As a side note, what's the best aftermarket card I can buy for DOOM III, assuming it ships for the Mac sometime soon?

The makers of DOOM3 are recommending the Geforce FX 6800 Ultra, and giving it top honors. Benchmarks
onlooker
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: parts unknown




http://www.apple.com/feedback/macpro.html
Reply
onlooker
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: parts unknown




http://www.apple.com/feedback/macpro.html
Reply
post #19 of 248
Quote:
Originally posted by onlooker
The makers of DOOM3 are recommending the Geforce FX 6800 Ultra, and giving it top honors. Benchmarks

Is it just me, or does that card cost almost $600? And is it me or the Bombay Sapphire that says OK?
"Hearing a corrupt CEO like Cheney denigrate Edwards for being a trial lawyer is like hearing a child molester complain how Larry Flint is a pervert." -johnq
Reply
"Hearing a corrupt CEO like Cheney denigrate Edwards for being a trial lawyer is like hearing a child molester complain how Larry Flint is a pervert." -johnq
Reply
post #20 of 248
Quote:
Originally posted by bunge
Is it just me, or does that card cost almost $600? And is it me or the Bombay Sapphire that says OK?

Bombay Sapphire has nothing to do with it, and your not alone. The Mac version I think is the only version that has the whole DVI enabled. It's necessary to run the 30 Cinema display. You'll be gaming on that card forever, and if that 30" display is yours you are one stylin mofo.
onlooker
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: parts unknown




http://www.apple.com/feedback/macpro.html
Reply
onlooker
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: parts unknown




http://www.apple.com/feedback/macpro.html
Reply
post #21 of 248
Quote:
Originally posted by onlooker
Bombay Sapphire has nothing to do with it, and your not alone. The Mac version I think is the only version that has the whole DVI enabled. It's necessary to run the 30 Cinema display. You'll be gaming on that card forever, and if that 30" display is yours you are one stylin mofo.

No 30" for me, just a simple little ole 20.1" ragin' mutha. Damn, $600. I love DOOM.

OK, I really love DOOM. Like, I used to play it on a 386 and I believe it's as fundamental to games as the Atari 2600, kind of love.

Those folks, were the two truly revolutionary shifts in gaming history.
"Hearing a corrupt CEO like Cheney denigrate Edwards for being a trial lawyer is like hearing a child molester complain how Larry Flint is a pervert." -johnq
Reply
"Hearing a corrupt CEO like Cheney denigrate Edwards for being a trial lawyer is like hearing a child molester complain how Larry Flint is a pervert." -johnq
Reply
post #22 of 248
Quote:
Originally posted by onlooker
It's necessary to run the 30 Cinema display. You'll be gaming on that card forever, and if that 30" display is yours you are one stylin mofo.

Now seriously, would it be possible to play games like Doom3, or any other game, in the native resolution of a 30" Cinema display? Lowering the resolution? Of course, but we have not idea how bad a game will look on such a huge display at lower resolutions.
post #23 of 248
I don't thnk so, well Doom 3 running on a 6800 Ultra can be played at 1600x1200 no problem, but 2560x1600, I imagine that's a whole different story. Would be interesting to see if it could, how many more pixels would Doom3 be using at the 30"s higest res than it would at 1600x1200?
Abhor the Stereotype, respect the Individual.
1.33Ghz 15" Powerbook: 80GB HD, 1GB RAM, OSX.4.7, Soundsticks II, 320GB LaCie FW800 EXT HD, iPod 20GB 4G
Reply
Abhor the Stereotype, respect the Individual.
1.33Ghz 15" Powerbook: 80GB HD, 1GB RAM, OSX.4.7, Soundsticks II, 320GB LaCie FW800 EXT HD, iPod 20GB 4G
Reply
post #24 of 248
Quote:
Originally posted by onlooker
The makers of DOOM3 are recommending the Geforce FX 6800 Ultra, and giving it top honors. Benchmarks

Interesting how there's little difference between the 8X AGP and PCIe on the benchmarks.
post #25 of 248
Quote:
Originally posted by zpapasmurf
...
This game requires a VERY high end video card... something I dont see Apple putting in the next gen imac.

well, true...
" I will not commit anything to memory that I can get from another source . . . "
ALBERT EINSTEIN
Reply
" I will not commit anything to memory that I can get from another source . . . "
ALBERT EINSTEIN
Reply
post #26 of 248
Quote:
Originally posted by Spytap
Well, my gaming rig is a P4 2.0GHz, a gig of RAM, and a Radeon 9700 Pro; not the least powerful, but a damn fine machine if I do say so myself.
Anyway, Doom 3 runs okay at 800x600 on high or 1024x768 on medium. Not wonderfully, but a pretty steady 30fps normally, stuttering to arouns 10fps in a firefight or when a lot is happening.

Scratch that, I just did a few optimizations (the unrar trick for uncompressing all the files, and the increase of the cache from 36 to 2000), and now I can play it at 1024/768 at ultra settings with a fairly steady 40fps.
post #27 of 248
Quote:
Originally posted by onlooker
The thing that I think is interesting is that DOOM 3 is being ported to Linux before they start the Mac version.

Huh? The three versions was developed simultaneously AFAIK.
JLL

95% percent of the boat is owned by Microsoft, but the 5% Apple controls happens to be the rudder!
Reply
JLL

95% percent of the boat is owned by Microsoft, but the 5% Apple controls happens to be the rudder!
Reply
post #28 of 248
Quote:
Originally posted by JLL
Huh? The three versions was developed simultaneously AFAIK.

Quote:
Name: Todd Hollenshead
Email: xxxxxxxxxxx
Description: CEO
Project:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
7-14-2004 10:19 PM CDT

A few bottles of champagne later (so excuse the typos)....

First of all, thank you to everyone who sent congratulatory notes on the GOLD announcement. I speak for
everyone at id when I say I wish I could respond to everyone personally, but hopefully this general note
can convey how much we sincerely appreciate the sentiment from everyone out there waiting for the game.

A few people have reminded me of some details omitted from my initial update:

Mac and Linux: Unfortunately I don't have dates for either of these. However, Linux binaries will be
available very soon after the PC game hits store shelves. There are no plans for boxed Linux games.
More remains to be done for the OSX version of DOOM 3 and that will take some time. We won't release
the OSX version until it's just as polished as the PC version. The date for OSX DOOM 3 remains "when it's
done", but I can confirm that it's definitely coming.

Demo: our priority was finishing the game first and now we are turning our attention to the demo. I
don't have any information to share regarding any specific content, but I don't believe that we have
ever disappointed in that regard in the past. We will release the demo as soon as it's done, but this
probably won't happen until after the game has arrived on U.S. store shelves.

Last, but not least, the id Store: we will have copies of DOOM 3 available, but only after we get them.
I'm sure that some of the hardcore game retailers will get them even before we do. Check our website for
updates on this. We certainly appreciate everyone who has helped to make the id Store a huge success this
year. By the way, more DOOM 3 T-Shirts just arrived, so those popular items are back in stock and will be
available this week.

I understand that people have lots and lots of questions. We're working on pulling together some form of
an official FAQ, but even though we're done we still have several responsibilities that are urgent as the
game heads for retail. Please bear with us on this.

I know I owe you those preparation tips, but they will have to wait until tomorrow.

7-14-2004 11:52 AM CDT


Linux binaries, and a PC Demo are coming before the Mac version at least. We'll see.
onlooker
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: parts unknown




http://www.apple.com/feedback/macpro.html
Reply
onlooker
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: parts unknown




http://www.apple.com/feedback/macpro.html
Reply
post #29 of 248
Quote:
Originally posted by onlooker
Linux binaries, and a PC Demo are coming before the Mac version at least. We'll see.

Yep, but that doesn't mean that they haven't started working on the Mac version.
JLL

95% percent of the boat is owned by Microsoft, but the 5% Apple controls happens to be the rudder!
Reply
JLL

95% percent of the boat is owned by Microsoft, but the 5% Apple controls happens to be the rudder!
Reply
post #30 of 248
Quote:
Originally posted by JLL
Yep, but that doesn't mean that they haven't started working on the Mac version.


BUt what ever they may have started is being pushed back until the Linux binaries, and PC Demo are done anyway.
onlooker
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: parts unknown




http://www.apple.com/feedback/macpro.html
Reply
onlooker
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: parts unknown




http://www.apple.com/feedback/macpro.html
Reply
post #31 of 248
Quote:
Originally posted by onlooker
BUt what ever they may have started is being pushed back until the Linux binaries, and PC Demo are done anyway.

I'm surprised it wasn't mentioned in the update (blame the champagne?) but the XBox version is due out soon, and they still had finishing touches to do on that.
post #32 of 248
Quote:
Originally posted by PBG4 Dude
I'm surprised it wasn't mentioned in the update (blame the champagne?) but the XBox version is due out soon, and they still had finishing touches to do on that.

That's right. The XBOX version was coming before Linux I think.
onlooker
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: parts unknown




http://www.apple.com/feedback/macpro.html
Reply
onlooker
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: parts unknown




http://www.apple.com/feedback/macpro.html
Reply
post #33 of 248
Quote:
Originally posted by a_greer
A buddy of mine has a 2.5 ghz computer (windows) with 512 megs of ram and an n'videa 5200 128mb(overclocked) and he can only play doom3 ar 800x600 with the graphics set at the second to top setting. so unless the ID guys do something insane with open GL that they just could not do with DX9, you will need a top-end PM and a 6800 to enjoy it properly.

That's because the 5200 blows chunks. It's probably the worst card that you can have that supports Doom 3.

I'll be playing it on my 2x2G5 with a 6800 soon. At 16x12. At high quality.
"It's not like Windows users don't have any power; I think they are happy with Windows, and that's an incredibly depressing thought." -Steve Jobs
Reply
"It's not like Windows users don't have any power; I think they are happy with Windows, and that's an incredibly depressing thought." -Steve Jobs
Reply
post #34 of 248
Quote:
Originally posted by zpapasmurf
I would be suprised if the new iMac could run Doom III at an acceptable framerate and resolution....

Im running a PC... Athlon Xp 2400+ (2.0 ghz) 512 mb Ram, Radeon 9800 Pro (128mb)....

I run Doom III @ 1280x1024 @ around 30fps...

I have a friend who has a Pentium 4 2.66ghz, 512mb ram and a 9600 Pro... he has a hard time running it @ 800x600 with lowest quality graphics on.

This game requires a VERY high end video card... something I dont see Apple putting in the next gen imac.

The HardOCP article disagrees with you. They got it running well enough on a RADEON 9600, which is hardly the latest and greatest. Obviously, a top-end video card will be better, but the minimum requirement appears to be fairly reasonable. This is really not surprising; id would actually like you to be able to buy and play their game, after all.

It depends on what you consider "acceptable" in terms of enabled features.

If any part of your or your friend's setup is overclocked (particularly the GPU) that can ruin DOOM3's performance. Any kind of full-screen AA is a framerate killer, according to HardOCP's benchmarking.

Anyway, I linked to the article in my post above. Check it out. I can't really test it on my machine because I know there isn't a chance in Hell it'll run well on that old stalwart.
"...within intervention's distance of the embassy." - CvB

Original music:
The Mayflies - Black earth Americana. Now on iTMS!
Becca Sutlive - Iowa Fried Rock 'n Roll - now on iTMS!
Reply
"...within intervention's distance of the embassy." - CvB

Original music:
The Mayflies - Black earth Americana. Now on iTMS!
Becca Sutlive - Iowa Fried Rock 'n Roll - now on iTMS!
Reply
post #35 of 248
Quote:
Originally posted by onlooker
You'll be gaming on that card forever, and if that 30" display is yours you are one stylin mofo.

Yeah, you'll be set for a while with a 6800.
post #36 of 248
Quote:
Originally posted by a_greer
A buddy of mine has a 2.5 ghz computer (windows) with 512 megs of ram and an n'videa 5200 128mb(overclocked) and he can only play doom3 ar 800x600 with the graphics set at the second to top setting. so unless the ID guys do something insane with open GL that they just could not do with DX9, you will need a top-end PM and a 6800 to enjoy it properly.

Ive got a 3.06GHz HT P4, 1GB ram, 128MB 9600SE and out of the box Doom3 runs unacceptable on the lowest setting, after updating the video drivers, and applying a 3rd party patch it runs OK on the 2nd to lowest setting(800x600). But then again, after installing that 3rd party patch, it randomly freezes
post #37 of 248
Quote:
Originally posted by msantti
Rumor has it that a port for Doom II is in the works and the specs on the new iMac will just be enough to run it.


Hmmm...you meant Doom II, right? Not D3?

I'm guessing you intended to be sarcastic, but c'mon, the iMac G4s can obviously play far more demanding games than Doom II, and right now absolutely no one knows how a G5 will deal with D3.



Who's to say D3 won't run on a iMac 3?
post #38 of 248
Quote:
Originally posted by jouster
Hmmm...you meant Doom II, right? Not D3?

I'm guessing you intended to be sarcastic, but c'mon, the iMac G4s can obviously play far more demanding games than Doom II, and right now absolutely no one knows how a G5 will deal with D3.



Who's to say D3 won't run on a iMac 3?

It's not the G5 that can not handle DOOM3. It's the Video card that is the main concern.
onlooker
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: parts unknown




http://www.apple.com/feedback/macpro.html
Reply
onlooker
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: parts unknown




http://www.apple.com/feedback/macpro.html
Reply
post #39 of 248
Quote:
Originally posted by onlooker
It's not the G5 that can not handle DOOM3. It's the Video card that is the main concern.

Well, as I said no one (except perhaps Mr. Carmack and a few others) has any idea of how a G5 will handle D3.

But I take your point re the GPU.

I guess we can only hope that the fruit company FINALLY realizes how much damage the non upgradeable iMacs are doing to their reputation and sales.
post #40 of 248
Quote:
Originally posted by jouster
Well, as I said no one (except perhaps Mr. Carmack and a few others) has any idea of how a G5 will handle D3.

But I take your point re the GPU.

I guess we can only hope that the fruit company FINALLY realizes how much damage the non upgradeable iMacs are doing to their reputation and sales.

Why is that? They always sell like crazy, and will again soon. If you have not noticed the iMac has sold out before it's time had come to pass.
onlooker
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: parts unknown




http://www.apple.com/feedback/macpro.html
Reply
onlooker
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: parts unknown




http://www.apple.com/feedback/macpro.html
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Future Apple Hardware
AppleInsider › Forums › Mac Hardware › Future Apple Hardware › Doom3 to run on new iMac?