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post #41 of 94
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Originally posted by SDW2001
Threads like this make me wonder if some of you folks are for real. Are we actually arging about Al-Jazeera having terrorist connections? Can you even be serious?

Don't you have like tons of evidence to shut them up?
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post #42 of 94
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Originally posted by SDW2001
Threads like this make me wonder if some of you folks are for real. Are we actually arging about Al-Jazeera having terrorist connections? Can you even be serious?

Uh, yes. That's exactly what we're doing. And I am serious.

It's well-documented? It's obvious?

COME ON SDW, I ASKED ONCE. SHOW ME THE MONEY.

Christ man, if it's such a "well-documented" (your words) thing then come on. Show me a fucking document.
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post #43 of 94
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Originally posted by Scott
In the past it's been shown that Al Jazeera is literally a production company for "militants" and terrorist. Staged video produced to romanticize kidnapping, murder and terrorism in the name of "jihad". So why shouldn't the Iraqi government shut down that propaganda engine for those that want to stop democracy in Iraq?

Similar to the US-networks with its embedded reporters that should show the war in a very clean and patriotic way, and the staged hero-tales of some US-soldier that got freed from prisonship?


Propaganda is on both sides active, the US and the arabic side. The US-side doesn't like to see video-reports of dead iraqi-civilians, when it was the US-army that killed them, and that's exactly what Al-Jazeera is showing, the death of civilians in that war.

The decision of the US to shut down Aljazeera's offices in Iraq is a sign of intellectual poverty and of drastic censorship.

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post #44 of 94
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Originally posted by SDW2001


Let me ask...why is that that Al-Jazeera always seems to get the finest video tapes of terrorists making demands and/or threatening the west? Where do those connections come from?

Have you ever heard of a service that can deliver small and bigger packages from one area to the next, off course, only if you have bought stamps and put them on the letter or package. Yes, they even deliver anonymously. I think the US should bomb all those delivering-service-corporations worldwide, as they are obviously helping Al-Kaida!

But, maybe you are wondering why only Al-Jazeera gets these videos. It's because it's the only censor-free(!!) arabic network available.

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post #45 of 94
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But, maybe you are wondering why only Al-Jazeera gets these videos. It's because it's the only censor-free(!!) arabic network available.

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post #46 of 94
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Originally posted by Scott

I echo that.
These guys actually believe Al-Jazeera is a truthful, honest organization without ties to terrorists.

And did you also know that pigs fly?

Honestly, some of you guys are so damn naive.
post #47 of 94
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Originally posted by steve666
I echo that.
These guys actually believe Al-Jazeera is a truthful, honest organization without ties to terrorists.

And did you also know that pigs fly?

Honestly, some of you guys are so damn naive.

Al Jazeera is a biased news organization who's bias comes from their position and perspecctive as a Muslim News agency centered in the ME. They are the equivalent of the M. Eastern FOX news . .
But there is no indication that they have any ties to terrorists or any support for the terrorist's causes . . . they would be the first to go if AQ were to gain power!

It is almost as if it were an assumption that because they are biased towards Muslim issues and perspecctives they are terrorists . . . which is a stone's throw away from saying that they are Arabs and are therefor terrorists
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post #48 of 94
Tap tap tap.

Awaiting one of the "well-documented" documents.

Awaiting something beyond "Everybody knows. Look, al Qaida release their messages to an Arab language station so they're connected."
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post #49 of 94
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Originally posted by Harald
Tap tap tap.

Awaiting one of the "well-documented" documents.

Awaiting something beyond "Everybody knows. Look, al Qaida release their messages to an Arab language station so they're connected."

You dont seem to get it. We already know about their ties to the terrorists because they have proven it to us.
Now how about YOU provide us proof that they arent?
post #50 of 94
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...according to your argument so does ABC and Time.
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Bushie, 8.5.4: "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."

LMAO. I saw that on TV. That's the leader of the "free world" for you. Quite amazing.
post #52 of 94
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Yea. It gives al Jazeera too much lead time to warn their terrorists patrons.

Wait a minute, how do you know the kid isn't an ambulance driver?
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post #53 of 94
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Originally posted by steve666
You dont seem to get it. We already know about their ties to the terrorists because they have proven it to us.

Ah, so you say that proof exists! You should be able to provide it then, huh?
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post #54 of 94
Sounds communist. Just like Scott.
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post #55 of 94
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Dude, Al Jazeera is the publishing arm of Al-Queda. If they didnt show their videos, their propaganda, and their slant than Al-Queda would be losing much of their audience and publicity tool.

You mean like how CNN showed those videos? And EVERYONE else?

Put up or shut up. None of you have any links to support your malformed arguments.

As for terrorist media, how about that whole Novak-Plame thing? Now *that* was ridiculous. Media always interviews and contacts all sides of a conflict. What do you want them to do? Not report on Al Quaeda? That would be...stupid. Or as you would like to say "sophomoric."

Granted I'm playing Devil's Advocate a little. But your bunch are such kneejerks. It's the middle East, everything over there is shady and anything's possible, but hey, I wouldn't be surprised if there were Quaeda operatives in US media. Again, where's the linkage and examples.
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post #56 of 94
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Originally posted by steve666
You dont seem to get it. We already know about their ties to the terrorists because they have proven it to us.
Now how about YOU provide us proof that they arent?

No, hold on. You know of their ties to terrorists?

Very simple question: what are these ties?

Very simple question: what's your evidence?

This is just like "Everybody knows Saddam has WMD," made up by the same people for the same reason.

IF IT'S SOOOOOO OBVIOUS, SHOW US SOME PROOF.

You can't. There isn't any. But there's lots of evidence to show that Al Jazeera is a well-run, professional TV network.
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post #57 of 94
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Originally posted by Harald
No, hold on. You know of their ties to terrorists?

Very simple question: what are these ties?

Very simple question: what's your evidence?

This is just like "Everybody knows Saddam has WMD," made up by the same people for the same reason.

IF IT'S SOOOOOO OBVIOUS, SHOW US SOME PROOF.

You can't. There isn't any. But there's lots of evidence to show that Al Jazeera is a well-run, professional TV network.

Yeah, I know talking to the people who believe their own BS is like watching one of those shows about UFOs. " Now that we know this that other thing also must be true ".
Falsehood based on a falsehood.


PS. I'm not making a comment on UFOs in gerneral or their authenticity or not. I'm just commenting on the shows.
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post #58 of 94
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Originally posted by FormerLurker
Ah, so you say that proof exists! You should be able to provide it then, huh?

You watch the news. Al Jazeera doesnt get the tapes in the mail they get it immediately. If all you Arab sympathizers and anti-American zealots believe Al-Jazeera isnt biased I have a camel to sell you.
post #59 of 94
As usual no proof.

"Everyone KNOWS there are WMDs. If you don't believe that, you're obviously an idiot."

"Everyone KNOWS there are ties between Iraq an Al Qaeda. If you don't believe that, ou're obviously an idiot."

"Everyone KNOWS Al Jazeera is intended to be a tool for terrorism. If you don't believe that, ou're obviously an idiot."

No wonder GWB doesn't have affairs. He's got plenty of jerk-off material just thinking about how easy it is to make you guys believe whatever he wants. You're so naive and gullible it's sad.
post #60 of 94
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Originally posted by steve666
You watch the news. Al Jazeera doesnt get the tapes in the mail they get it immediately. If all you Arab sympathizers and anti-American zealots believe Al-Jazeera isnt biased I have a camel to sell you.

Really? They get it immediately? Yeah, right. Has even a single one of the tapes been dated? If not, how would you know they get it "immediately"?

Oh, I know. You "just know" because it's "obvious".

The only thing obvious here is the prejudice.
post #61 of 94
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Originally posted by tonton
As usual no proof.

"Everyone KNOWS there are WMDs. If you don't believe that, you're obviously an idiot."

"Everyone KNOWS there are ties between Iraq an Al Qaeda. If you don't believe that, ou're obviously an idiot."

"Everyone KNOWS Al Jazeera is intended to be a tool for terrorism. If you don't believe that, ou're obviously an idiot."

No wonder GWB doesn't have affairs. He's got plenty of jerk-off material just thinking about how easy it is to make you guys believe whatever he wants. You're so naive and gullible it's sad.

Who's talking about that other shit.
There were no WMDs in Iraq-I agree
There were no ties between Iraq and Al-Queda-I agree
Al-Jazeera is a tool for terrorists-It is

What was your point?
The real naivete is thinking Al-Jazeera is a legitimiate news organization.
post #62 of 94
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Originally posted by tonton
Really? They get it immediately? Yeah, right. Has even a single one of the tapes been dated? If not, how would you know they get it "immediately"?

Oh, I know. You "just know" because it's "obvious".

The only thing obvious here is the prejudice.

Against what? Arab terrorists?
post #63 of 94
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Originally posted by steve666
Against what? Arab terrorists?

Please. We've been asking throughout this entire two-page thread, over a period of five days, for ONE SINGLE EXAMPLE that Al Jazeera are pro-terrorist, rather than simply reporting the news, in an unbiased manner, as it is, and you can't come up with anything. Ergo: prejudice and misinformation.
post #64 of 94
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Please. We've been asking throughout this entire two-page thread, over a period of five days, for ONE SINGLE EXAMPLE that Al Jazeera are pro-terrorist, rather than simply reporting the news, in an unbiased manner, as it is, and you can't come up with anything. Ergo: prejudice and misinformation.

There is more than one example-everything they do is pro-terrorist. Open your eyes and ears, displace your anti-American hatred for a while, and learn something.
post #65 of 94
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Originally posted by steve666
There is more than one example-everything they do is pro-terrorist. Open your eyes and ears, displace your anti-American hatred for a while, and learn something.

Give an example. Or please, concede defeat. "Everybody knows" is not an answer, especially when most people in the world disagree.

Why is it so fucking hard to give an example?
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post #66 of 94
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Originally posted by Harald
Give an example. Or please, concede defeat. "Everybody knows" is not an answer, especially when most people in the world disagree.

Why is it so fucking hard to give an example?

You are growing tiresome, harald.
Most intelligent people in the world know what Al-Jazeera is all about.
post #67 of 94
And we all know Jews drink childrens blood. No need to prove that either I guess.
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post #68 of 94
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And we all know Jews drink childrens blood. No need to prove that either I guess.

What Al-Jazeera does is there for all eyes to see. Eyes that are open.
post #69 of 94
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Most intelligent people in the world know what Al-Jazeera is all about.

That is exactly why you have no clue, I'd propose.
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post #70 of 94
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That is exactly why you have no clue, I'd propose.

Wow, what a clever retort. How long have you waited to use the 'not me, maybe you' line?

This isnt exactly the Algonquin Round Table, is it? I'll leave all you leftist lovers alone for awhile until you can find something more contructive to say.
post #71 of 94
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Originally posted by steve666
You are growing tiresome, harald.
Most intelligent people in the world know what Al-Jazeera is all about.

steve666, is there anything that would convince you of the truth of evolution?

Shit, wrong thread.

steve666, can you please give an example of al Jazeera's terrorist sympathies?
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post #72 of 94
Perhaps it works this way: Since USAF like to bomb Al Jazeera they must be guilty.

Just like hostile wedding parties
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post #73 of 94
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Wow, what a clever retort. How long have you waited to use the 'not me, maybe you' line?

This isnt exactly the Algonquin Round Table, is it? I'll leave all you leftist lovers alone for awhile until you can find something more contructive to say.

It was clever enough for someone who claims to be part of that 'intelligent' crowd but who cannot put up any proof. Until you learn to support your hypotheses, you'd best not compare yourself to Ross and Benchley.

I suppose you could compare yourself to Harpo Marx, though. You certainly are funny.
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post #74 of 94
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If all you Arab sympathizers and anti-American zealots believe Al-Jazeera isnt biased I have a camel to sell you.

Dude, your problem is that someone already sold you a bridge.
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post #75 of 94
hehehe, what a sad little bunch of weenies
post #76 of 94
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steve666, can you please give an example of al Jazeera's terrorist sympathies?
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post #77 of 94
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post #78 of 94
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And we all know Jews drink children's blood. No need to prove that either I guess.

No need to even make that leap. Steve has given us all the proof one needs to draw a sound conclusion--that being steve666 is a minion of the devil. I can see it as plainly as he can see terrorist luring around each and every corner. We don't need to slander Jewish people when steve666 has shown his true colors. "Eyes that are open" can see the link between steve and the dark lord. "Most intelligent people know.." that choosing 666 as part of your name means you love anarchy and chaos and not god. Only "weenies" wouldn't see the most obvious connection between steve666 and Lucifer...

steve666:
Sales taxes are regressive. I can prove this.
Osama Bin Laden is a terrorist. I can prove this.
Saudi Arabia is generally ruled by an oppressive regime. I can prove this. Pakistan is barely holding together as a secular country. I can prove this.
There is a really good chance the N.Korea has Nucs. I can prove this.
Al-Jazeera is a legitiment news station. I can prove this.

You cannot prove your point of view thus you are resorting to pressing the "I believe" button. People believed Jews where the reason for the plague--they where wrong. In fact there are hundreds, if not thousands, of instance of "beliefs" that are/where wrong and have been proven as such.

You want to sway any of us then give some proof. I can prove the above with a few clicks of the mouse why can't you do the same concerning Al-Jazeera? Have you asked yourself this yet? Proof isn't simply saying "I believe" BTW. Proof relies on facts. Why can't you find the facts to back your claim? Have you asked yourself this question yet? There is not growth without questioning.
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post #79 of 94
This thread has me in complete stundination.
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