Originally posted by Aurora
For Nightcrawler, an Xmen? im talking about the now not what happened 500 years ago. The mideast has very big problems and there is a common theme among those countries and its a religeon that springs up the Bin ladens, Hama's and all the others. again while they are fighting countless wars, here in America we have said ...hey we can acomplish much more working together then we can killing off each other over constant tribal warfare and religeous zealotry. Democracy isnt easy and has never come cheap but there isnt a better alternative and Democracy has to have tolerance and respect for other ideas and view points. Islam has not allowed for that. Govt should never be ran by any religeon but iam convinced that sooner or later Iraq will fall into this just as Iran.
Please, please try to write a bit more readable.
You are saying the americans would do so great, coming along with each other, while the middle-east-people don't come along with each other. That is pure bs.
The nice american governments were it that installed and financed murderous dictatorial regimes in the middle-east, the most famous dictator there was Saddam Hussein of Iraq! Yes, a CIA-coup back in the sixties was it that brought the Baath-regime to power, and a bit later CIA's friend Saddam Hussein to the top.
The USA even delivered Saddam Hussein's Iraq with WMD's in the form of chemical weapons, that he should use against Iran. Ah, the Iran-Iraq-war, a perfect example for the middle-east-people that can't get along, hmm? Guess again, it was the USA that instructed Saddam Hussein to invade Iran!! That nice USA, we should all praise and love it.
You are also making reference to Hamas as another example for the "not getting along-arabs". But you do realize that Hamas is a reaction to a murderous, expansive, land-stealing Israel, that was created with the help of the USA and is up until today supported with 3 billion dollars a year financially, not to forget the military support by the USA and the diplomatic support in the security-council..., I guess not.
Leaves Osama Bin Ladin as the example for the violent arabs. But you sure remember that the CIA/USA recruited Osama Bin Ladin and teached him guerillia-warfare and terrorism in order to fight the soviets in Afghanistan.
So what do we have, mostly US installed and US-supported dictatorships in the arabic world, an Israel, that was created with the help of the USA and which is supported by the USA since then, radical mujahideens, that were indoctrinated, recruited and trained by the USA to defeat the Soviet-Union.
I even don't have to bring up the preceding ottoman-oppression or the european colonialism to explain the current state of the arabic world, I can only stick to the US-control over the arabic world, if that is what you wish, my friend.
What then is the role of the religion in that scenario? Most of what happens and happened in the arabic world in the last fifty years stems from secular developments and governments. The different resistance groups use religion as main-motivator to resist the oppressive secular dictatorial regimes as religion is a great uniter and offers hope that goes beyond the individual's fate.