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post #41 of 44
8/27/04 at 11:49am
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Originally posted by midwinter
Just a quick question: why do we care how much THK is worth?

Because she's married to Kerry and he'll be the president (if elected). Also because Kerry uses her money to underwrite his campaigns.
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post #42 of 44
8/27/04 at 11:51am
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Originally posted by Scott
Because she's married to Kerry and he'll be the president (if elected). Also because Kerry uses her money to underwrite his campaigns.

And I ask again, so what?
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post #43 of 44
8/27/04 at 11:53am
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Just a quick question: why do we care how much THK is worth?

Conflicts of interest could be one reason. For example Kerry listed having a very large chunk of Walmart stock ($1-5 million) and also Walgreen(another $1-5 million).

Suppose Kerry had legislation before him that would strengthen the right to unionize which in turn would cost him about about $3-6 million personally in that particular stock and perhaps tens of millions in other stocks.

That is why it is a concern... we can't have people screaming Bush/Enron Cheney/Haliburton for the last four years and not think, yeah well here's a guy and gal that have a lot more at stake than the two of them combined.

In fact to give it perspective, the total investment of Kerry/Heinz in Walmart is half of George Bush's entire net-worth when you use his largest number possible. (about $22 million)

Now of course that is only ONE area that Kerry happens to have assets in. We are talking about 10 million of a total asset base estimated at up to $839 million. Another big issue is that in Bush's case, almost half his networth is derived from his home whereas the majority of Kerry's networth is wrapped up in stocks and bonds. An estimated $734 million of that total is in stocks and bonds. That means that when it comes to legislation and business, Kerry has a lot of areas of conflict.

Nick

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post #44 of 44
8/27/04 at 12:53pm
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Originally posted by trumptman
[ - conflict of interst bullshit - ]

Nick



Get serious Nicky!!!!

Conflicts of interest?!?!

Um . . . . old oil family, Carlysle group, Saudi 'uncles', Halliburton, Enron . . . etc etc etc

Kerry's family has some investments . . . at least their identities are not invested in the way that the Bushes are . . .or Cheney (still on payroll at Hally)

If anyone criticizes either the Bush administration members or the Kerrys because they feel that they just want personal profit, than they are making big mistakes . . . at their level, that simply is not a real factor: what they are involved in, and what people should critique the Bush admin for, is the POWER of Corporate Power, and the Ideology of Corporate Power = Good Power . . . .
. . . investments are not the same thing at all as the forms of intertwining with industry and corporate power that any of the Bush administration partakes in!!

So get off that silly misnomer-horse . . . but nice try.

The most that you can say is that it might temper their supposed 'extreme Liberalims' with regards to taxes . . . right anti-Government, pro-business folks?!?!
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