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post #81 of 255
I still heartily doubt that we will see g5's. But I do hope to see some new functionality built into the PM's (and not just a speed jump).

And I do not think we have seen the last of iPod... I have a sneaking suspicion that it is not simply an end in itself. However, the pictures floating about of it docking into another item with its back nestling into the body of a tablet etc, seem far-fetched: its battery would overheat. Seeing as I have one, I am just curious as to what exactly it will be.....
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post #82 of 255
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For your information , Here is interesting information for you.

<a href="http://www.samsungelectronics.com/news/semiconductors/com_news_1010056754781_001600.html" target="_blank">http://www.samsungelectronics.com/news/semicon ductors/com_news_1010056754781_001600.html</a>

"The company commercializes 15.3-inch and 17-inch models.-4-times resolution against conventional Cathode Ray Tubes, fit for digital broadcasting.-By adding 30-inch and 40-inch designs, Samsung will be armed with a full product lineup in 2002.-The LCD TV market is forecast to grow from 1.9 million units in 2002 to 8 million units by 2005."

Hmmmm......

15.3 inch TFT-LCD. Did anybody know who was using 15.3 inch TFT-LCD ?

YES APPLE !

Guess What iMac II might use it's TFT-LCD monitor.

[ 01-05-2002: Message edited by: kormac77 ]

[ 01-05-2002: Message edited by: kormac77 ]</p>
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post #83 of 255
Kormac ... interesting. Could you give us your recent ideas on the I**** v2? Do you think it is part of the new iMac or a separate product?
post #84 of 255
Hmm... Interesting... And the ACD goes 24", right?

Do you stand by your specs for the towers? Do you stand by OSX.2?

What is GigaWire? Can't be FireWire2...
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post #85 of 255
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For the Digital Hub system working with SAMSUNG & SONY. You have to understand what it is.

Check this site & think what APPLE can fit into.

<a href="http://www.samsungelectronics.com/homenetwork/lifestyle/lifestyle.html" target="_blank">http://www.samsungelectronics.com/homenetwork/lifestyle/lifestyle.html</a>

<a href="http://www.samsungelectronics.com/homenetwork/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.samsungelectronics.com/homenetwork/index.html</a>

Also there is product concept " WebPad" in it.

Think about what Apple can do, if APPLE is thinking same concept.
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post #86 of 255
Is this "webPad" concept the i**** v2 project you have mentioned in the past? Are you saying Samsung will manufacture a "webPad" type product to fit into the digital hub concept for Apple or will Sony and Apple use gigaWire or Firewire 2 to be the link for digital hub concept?
post #87 of 255
[quote]Samsung Electronics launches TFT-LCD TV business with wide screen 15.3-inch and 17-inch sizes. The company is also scheduled to come out with 22-inch and 30-inch class versions in 2002. Including the 40-inch TFT-LCD TV developed last August, Samsung is geared with a full product lineup that ranges from 15 inches to 40 inches.
<hr></blockquote>

Now imagine a 40-inch Cinema Display. :eek: :cool:

Screed... must not be tempted to get a loan for a monitor!!

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post #88 of 255
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For the Apple Display , here is useful information.

<a href="http://www.lgphilips-lcd.com:8888/English/news/n_cozy.html?idx=385&offset=0&pkinds=movement&pname =news" target="_blank">http://www.lgphilips-lcd.com:8888/English/news/n_cozy.html?idx=385&offset=0&pkinds=movement&pname =news</a>

" The 23W TFT-LCD, designed for monitors and HDTVs is a wide UXGA model, offering a wide viewing angle of 160 degrees - reducing gray scale inversions and ensuring color integrity, regardless of the viewer°Øs position. With a 1920 x 1200 resolution, the 23W display was developed to meet OEM demands for a larger, wider LCD format, and is based on LG.Philips LCD°Øs award-winning 22W platform. Similar to other LG.Philips LCD displays, the 23W°Øs slim design (only 25mm thick) requires less workspace, while the display itself consumes less power, emits lower electromagnetic radiation, and lessens end-user eyestrain, compared to a CRT-based solution of similar resolution and size. As an added benefit, the 23W can also fit into the footprint of some existing 22-inch monitor designs, significantly reducing the system integration costs for OEMs. The 23W is slated to begin mass production in late January 2002."

The current Apple Cinema Display used 22W one.

And who was the only OEM company for the 22W model ? APPLE.

For the other TFT Monitor,

"LG.Philips LCD°Øs new 17W display is designed for new wide monitor formats, all-in-one PCs, and personal computer TV (PCTV) applications. The wide-format display offers 1280 x 768 resolution, a color saturation of 65 percent, brightness of 400cd/m2, and a fast response time of 25ms. Furthermore, it is extremely thin (16.2 mm) and weighs only 19 grams. Volume production of the 17W will begin by late this December. "

- It was Year 2001 article.

"In an effort to meet the OEM demands for standardized LCD sizes, LG.Philips LCD also unveiled the 30W TFT-LCD for today°Øs HDTV market. The 30W boasts an impressive, wide viewing angle of 170 degrees, a brightness of 450 cd/m2, and a resolution of 1280 x 768. The 30W provides better clarity by removing most of the color-spreading phenomenon usually associated with LCDs and moving pictures. In addition to its large screen size and slim form factor (46 mm), this display also offers a high contrast ratio of 450:1 and an aspect ratio of 16:9.6. "

"In an effort to meet the OEM demands for standardized LCD sizes,"

Who is this OEM company that want to standardized LCD sizes for ALL WIDE FORMAT ?

APPLE!

You will see new LCD Display from Apple that All new Display are WIDE and HDTV ready spec.

Guess why APPLE wanted to get rid of current LCD Display by end of last year ?


Part3 will be coming shortly.
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post #89 of 255
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"LG.Philips LCD°Øs new 17W display is designed for new wide monitor formats, all-in-one PCs, and personal computer TV (PCTV) applications."

All-in-one PC. Hmmm.........

Will iMac II might use this display ? :eek:

- It might happen, except the price is not concerned. I don't think so.

The 30W will not be made as product in this spring. It will be for later this year.
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post #90 of 255
It always appeared to me that you have the strongest ties to the display industry as it relates to Apple. All of your guesses seem to be grounded in knowing first the displays and sizes Apple is interested in, guessing the form factor, and deducing the purpose from other ancillary information.
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post #91 of 255
So I take it that you don't think that the new iMac that will most likely be introduced on Monday will be good enough?
post #92 of 255
Given JRC's observation, perhaps Kormac has some display info that will lead to a projection in the area of touch sensitve displays or HRW?
post #93 of 255
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To allen :

i****v2 is seperate product.

The samsung's concept is very limited. It is only Web able terminal for home network and it does not have many function which only APPLE can make.

If Apple call i****v2 as iPAD, I will not suprise.

I will talk about it at my part 5 story.

To SYN:

Gigawire is Next version of Firewire: IEEE1394b. However there is IEEE1394g spec which is wireless protocol.

I think APPLE is putting both concept as one name. Therefor It will not to be confused.

You have to see the concept of Firewire. Originally , it was design to use as connecting protocol for computer , like Harddisk, Printer.

But Sony use it for CAMcoder and many other way of use has been developed and the use will increase very large soon.

New IEEE1394b & 1394g added new functinalty to the protocol that it can do something no other could imagine!

And M$ still don't understand it !
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post #94 of 255
Good job Kormac and so good to have you back. I am really looking foward to all these things on Monday. You heard it here first folks.
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post #95 of 255
[quote]Originally posted by allen:
<strong>Given JRC's observation, perhaps Kormac has some display info that will lead to a projection in the area of touch sensitve displays or HRW?</strong><hr></blockquote>

I think it's his inside info that Apple HAS recently been interested in touch-screen displays, that have led to speculate on iPad-ish items. If you know Apple needs a 5 x 7 inch, touch sensitive LCD to try out in the labs, then you know enough to figure out SOMETHING.

Furthermore, it appears that most of these are from Korean(ish) firms. So, if there is a company that acts as an internation go-between, and perhaps even is SUPPOSED TO keep their clients 'secret' then that points to the whereabouts of Kormac77 in the pipeline.

I would think that he is NOT associated/employed by LG, Samsung and AlphaTop all simultaneously. I would think that he has to establish the contact between them and Apple. Perhaps even something like a corporate translation service - though we all know they could do better than Kormac - don't we?

Or, if there is some geek intercepting Korean/English transmissions and correspondence, that's possible.

There are many possibilities and I'm always thinking.
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post #96 of 255
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JRC: I might be out of job soon !

You are partially correct.

Fran441: I think APPLE will come up with 17 inch iMac in future when the price is come down. But current price is not fit with iMac concept yet.

But TFT-LCD price will go down much faster than anybody can guess due to the many use of TFT-LCD in non-computer monitor area.

Allen: i****v2 use touch sensitve display. So as PALM.
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post #97 of 255
A 17-inch widescreen iMac could explain the purported $1800 price tag.

But that may preclude a G4. Apple might not work in and both and still make a profit.

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post #98 of 255
[quote]Originally posted by sCreeD:
<strong>A 17-inch widescreen iMac could explain the purported $1800 price tag.

But that may preclude a G4. Apple might not work in and both and still make a profit.

Screed</strong><hr></blockquote>

I don't think Apple can afford to do a 15" iMac with the quality that Samsung is putting out AND AND AND be HDTV capable TOO. They should be able to cough up a 15" LCD iMac with a lower quality Samsung LCD or at least with a cheap LG, given their investment in Samsung and LG would like to get/keep business, too.

But, the HDTV capability, and increased specs especially a superdrive I (not II in the iMac) would push it more to $2000 IN MY OPINION.

Samsung has some FINE HDTV LCDs. They are nice looking to these diseased eyes, I'll tell you.
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post #99 of 255
Kormac .... I'm looking forward to your part 5 story. How does the i**** v2 fit into the rumors of the coming iMac having a removable monitor?
post #100 of 255
Question: Why would Sony help Apple to become to digital hub platform of choice, when Sony makes their OWN computers and multimedia devices (MP3 players etc.)?
post #101 of 255
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Sorry. I have to do some work now.

I will comeback few hour later.

Part4 is about future of PowerMac & APPLE

Part5 is about i****v2 & Apple's DigitalHub PLAN. Which will make new way of computing Environment.

I think Matsu will join here soon.

To Matsu:

The story in here is my prediction. The prediction is based on my experience with this industry.

As we know, no computer company can make product without parts. To make product, you have to use many part from around world. And to make it, quiet many people can involve with it. I might be one of the link.


I have quiet some information about APPLE but I am not Insider.

You will see what it is from coming product.

Again, I will make clear.

I don't work for APPLE & company which work for Apple directly.

And What steve will do Monday is only Steve know.

Is it O.K with you ?

P.S.: I don't change my story. If you check with my old post, you will know what I am talking about.

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post #102 of 255
Still nothing new here.

MacNN reported on the displays and the fact that the 23W fits existing 22" designs a while ago.

If you read the early firewire concepts, it was to be a bus that alllowed a computer or various computers to connect to each other and components. Wide ranging applications were conceived from the get go.

You may mean 802.11g which is a faster version of airport (not firewire). currently we have b. The a spec improves speed to 54Mbps or 72Mbps, but is incompatible with 802.11b devices. The g spec on the other hand matches the performance of the a spec but remains compatible with our current 802.11b devices. G has nothing to do with firewire, but it is part of wireless.

New displays? Well duh. As new glass becomes available Manufacturers will use it. Apple has been seriously discounting LCD 'bundles' so it is a possibility that they will change around their display offerings. But none of this is for the iMac, guaranteed. At least not for a while.

You're risking your job by telling us what exactly? The tech industry news? Quick, everyone with an NDA, STOP reading the paper.
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post #103 of 255
Matsu, if it's so obvious, why aren't you suggesting the things kormac is now saying?

[ 01-05-2002: Message edited by: Nostradamus ]</p>
post #104 of 255
[quote]Originally posted by Nostradamus:
<strong>Matsu, if its so obvious, why aren't you suggesting the things kormac is now saying?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yeah!

post #105 of 255
Well Matsu, Kormac was right about one prediction, that you'd be back to the thread soon. Honestly I don't see why you are so bothered by his postings.
post #106 of 255
Hey Kormac,

I've garnered a mention by your illustrious personage. wow. Of course you don't really need to change your tune, since it's always an very open-ended one

But hey, at least you said that you have no insider connection at all. Good Boy; although, you did sneak in that "I might be part of the chain" quip. Matsu shakes finger at Kormac, "Naughty boy!" But old habits die hard, this I understand. hehe...


To the rest,

I haven't said the things Kormac is posting because many others have said them before me, so I see no need to repeat.

Panels, G5s, firewire, airport, gigawire, and possible Mobo technologies have all been headline news on tech pages and rumor/news sites. As have patent registrations, product releases and roadmaps. It's there for anyone to read and has been read many times over, both here and elsewhere. Perhaps he has some connection to panels, but at the level he is involved his admitted speculation is no closer that that of an enthusiastic/involved lay reader of the tech press/industry.

Keep in mind that none of his predictions about computers has ever come true. He was way off on all i**** and e**** stuff, the P1/iBook, the good-better-best iMacs, etc...

When similar stuff eventually comes out, keep in mind that it was due in the whole industry, and simply a product of general/natural trends. Bet on A/V integration over the next 5 years you're going to be right about it sooner or later. Anyone can predict technology will get smaller lighter, cheaper, more integrated, and feature rich. That's the natural evolution of consumer electronics.


edit:

Isn't it interesting that with the iPod these evolutions were not expected at all in the way they materialized. Apple looked at a very focused functionality while we were all scrambling for the do everything PDA or set-top. Simple MP3 player? Nah, never happen. But that's the brilliance of it, it is nearly the perfect simple MP3 player. And NOBODY predicted it months in advance. It was a true surprise mainly because of the elegance with which it approached evolutions of miniaturization and integration. Everyone else was thinking of cumbersome hodge-podges, not Apple. Did Kormac (or anyone) predict that? No. Because Kormac (and the rest of us) were thinking about techno evolution in very gross terms. The industry also makes gross evolutionary changes, but just about everyone has predicted those -- mainly because everyone has already demanded them. On the sum, this i**** e**** PDA/slate wireless web pad etc etc... stuff is very simplistic consumer-fetish driven demanding/hoping dressed up as rumor.

[ 01-05-2002: Message edited by: Matsu ]</p>
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post #107 of 255
[quote]Originally posted by Matsu:
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Keep in mind that none of his predictions about computers has ever come true. He was way off on all i**** and e**** stuff, the P1/iBook, the good-better-best iMacs, etc...
.</strong><hr></blockquote>

He was dead on with the C2 iMacs.
post #108 of 255
This whole "viewing HDTV on computer monitor" is not unheard-of. You can get HDTV receiver cards for Windows, and display HDTV programming on your monitor (or output to an HD television if you have one, and the right connectors), even record HDTV programming on your hard drive. There's a whole category of "HTPC" or Home Theater PC, which people hook up to their HDTV (or computer monitor) and use as a high-quality DVD player, line doubler, and/or OTA (over the air) HDTV receiver.
post #109 of 255
He was not 'dead on' about C2 iMacs. He predicted they would have LCD panels in different sizes (for the different price points) It's amazing how some people have invented this fantasy of his being dead on. That is a major detail. One, I might add, that we're still expecting nearly two years later.
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post #110 of 255
Anyone remember Steve's comments in Fortune magazine? At least I think it was Fortune. He said that people go to the TV to "turn their brain off" and go to the computer to "turn their brain on". He made it sound like he didn't buy into the Computer/TV convergence idea.
So why would Apple make HDTV viewable on a Mac???
Unless Jobs has changed his view on this.
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post #111 of 255
[quote]Originally posted by Matsu:
<strong>He was not 'dead on' about C2 iMacs. He predicted they would have LCD panels in different sizes (for the different price points) It's amazing how some people have invented this fantasy of his being dead on. That is a major detail. One, I might add, that we're still expecting nearly two years later.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Umm, do you even know what C2 is?
post #112 of 255
C2: 5 colors, 3 configs, all CRT.

Acording to Kormac these were to come with LCD's

That's hardly nailing anything.
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post #113 of 255
Jobs is right. TV is inherently passive -- you sit back on the other side of the room, maybe you flip the remote. Computers (PCs that is) are inherently active -- you sit directly in front of them and are constantly clicking, typing, etc. People do not want to "use" TVs, they want to watch them. computers have no place in TV viewing. That would suck.
post #114 of 255
[quote]Originally posted by Matsu:
<strong>C2: 5 colors, 3 configs, all CRT.

Acording to Kormac these were to come with LCD's

That's hardly nailing anything.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Either your memory is very poor or you don't know what C2 is.

C2's are the kKhie iMacs released in October of 1999, and kormac never mentioned the word LCD with his predictions relating to them. He was correct on everything from the number of firewire ports, to the slot loading drives(new back then) and form factor.
post #115 of 255
oops big screw up there on my C2 answer.

the 5 colors come first. The DV/firewire focus comes with C2, no?

either way, he hardly nailed it. Firwire was already talked about and spoken of openly by consumer electronics makers, and peripheral vendors etc...
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post #116 of 255
Yeah, and what did he nail about the form factor. It hardly changed. People had talked about removing the metal shielding to reveal the internals. There was some home made Japanese modification of similar bent floating around the web. AI had pics that were removed at the request of Apple legal. Slot load drives had been available from Pioneer. etc etc... it wasn't "insider"
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post #117 of 255
one more, i don't want you to think I'm changing my posts or something.

firewire ports? You're going to base insider status on that? 1 or 2 is all you ever get from Apple (or anyone else usually). The odds are 50/50. If you get lucky, great. If not, there's always the "for next time" argument.
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post #118 of 255
Back to BuonRotto: I have wanted TV on iMacs just because it fits in with the consumer/college dorm kind of thing and with a HDTV future you will be able to "see" alot more on even a small 15.?" (widescreen) monitor, 'a la PBookTi. It is all about all in one, not about inelegant WebTV crap.

But with the notion of the tablet/thin-client that Gates is going to announce on Monday, the idea will be to seperate the two digital streams of video and metadata (kind of like mp3 files) and be able to watch the movie on your good 'ole 35" TV, but at the same time have a tablet sitting at your coffee table, wirelessly giving you access to channels and webpages and anything else w/o forcing it on the TV itself. (Read <a href="http://www.msnbc.com/news/682362.asp?0dm=T13KT" target="_blank">http://www.msnbc.com/news/682362.asp?0dm=T13KT</a> from my roundly ignored tablet post.)

So TV itself is passive, but the future of the digital home hub with TV is not.
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post #119 of 255
Thanks, Kormac, for the link to the Samsung lifestyle stuff. The animations are a hoot. Especially enjoyed the bathroom one. "Yeah! I'm watching a movie while taking my bath."
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post #120 of 255
Matsu:

I don't look at anyone's claim of Inside Information as real. Sad news, I know, for those who have broken NDAs and now scurry through the woods with Apple's lawyers and hound dogs baying in hot pursuit....

I look upon AI as a large, multichaptered, ongoing novel which I get to (modestly) contribute to that is filled with fascinating characters. F'rinstance, there's Fran441 (whose patient waiting for the return of the Newton reminds me of the faithful dog ( in the WarnerBrothers cartoon on dogs) that waits, (through bad weather and the turning seasons) for the return of his master. His thread (24 pages when I last looked) here in the chapter on Future Hardware is a veritable saga! Behind each new post is the crucial question: Will Fran's thread reach 1000 posts before MWSF? What tension! What drama!

There are the little flamewars that erupt when a Windows zealot wanders in trying to convince the AI population to Go Windows. Nothing like a good, overwhelming slaughter!

Then there's any thread by KormacXX. The speculation runs wild, rampant and contradictorially amid cries of 'Fraud!', 'He is god!', etc.
Even if KormacXX is a creation of someone's fertile imagination, he's an interesting one. 'Worked on the plastics' in Korea, writes English with an accent, comes up with speculation and threads that draw AI posters like flies to sugar (or, as you might put it, flies to, um, dung).


And finally there's the overarching, unnamed 'X-File-esque thread: which character(s) among the AI poster population are on the Apple payroll? Posters of posts that knock down speculation which *just might* be too close to a zealously guarded Apple Reality? Who are they working for? Apple or The Truth?

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