Originally posted by AndersI´m pissed at you because you are blocking my view to the statue of liberty.
Naa you´re okay because you are quite balanced in your view, not extreme loop sided. But if its right that you are giving Fellowship a hard time then its a huge minus in my book. I hadn´t noticed that so this thread has actually been bad for my perception of you
I'll Just say one thing at the moment re Fellowship.
Fellowship and I go back 3 or 4 years. I'm sure most of us know the story. It's clear we have polar opinions in some matters, We've also had a couple of disagreements as well, so the relationship is always going to be shaky at best. Its obvious that a few months ago I clearly went for Fellowship, and I do not apologize (for the principle) or regret that at all. I might also tease him a bit re: sunworship.
Fellowship is a strange one for me. I accept and rightly recognise that over the period, he has been more than willing to reflect his worldview and learn and change opinions, but one thing still remains that annoys me.
For all Fellowships notable conduct and reasoning, he has never publically stated that he has rejected his position in 2001. I'm trying to adress this in a manner that doesn't attack Fellowship, but I find it odd, that someone who appears to have grown so much in these forums, will still go to Church on Sunday and worship exactly the same 'concepts' that he held to 3 years ago. Still trying not to be nasty - this is just 2 faced hypocricy. I have little doubt that while the Fellowship on AO has changed, I fully expect that given the opportunity, he is/has/will be going through exactly the same process (as 2001) with people who do not have the education, intellectual honesty or integrity to challenge his creation science claim. Im sorry if that is harsh, but I believe that if I was a fly on the wall in Fellowships life, I would likely find that to be true.
Fellowship and I, I believe have largely amicably settled the matter here, and I have no intent to go after Fellowship on a personal level, unless there is a strange return to 2001. However, I have a strong religious opinion (maybe even an agenda) and if certain people are offended by it, thats too bad. Just like its 'too bad' if anyone is offended by any debate on an internet forum.
I really like Fellowship, while finding him detestable at the same time. I have alot of respect for the Fellowship as we know now, but absolutely no respect on other levels. I do reject the claim that I am still going after Fellowship, and I think its just a memory of a few months ago.
Perhaps the man himself would like to comment?
(oh and seg is a very informed smart guy (when I'm that old!
I hope I understand the world as well as he), If I try to hang off his shirt tails, it is because I try to associate with intelligent, respectable people - but seg holds ideaologies that I completely disagree with, proof that I'm not religion bashing just for the sake of it?)