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post #81 of 91
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Originally posted by sammi jo
7 minutes was the length of time Bush remained in the classroom following the 2nd tower hit. But the entire persidential party stayed on at the school for another 27 minutes. If a genuine terrorist attack by unknown assailants was playing itself out that morning, then that additional 34 minutes was presumably enough time to drive planes, drop bombs or whatever, on that school, putting the president and everyone there in the gravest danger. In that case, the Secret Service, had they been doing their job according to the rules, would have whisked the president out of there in seconds, just they did with Dick Cheney.


They knew they had inbound planes in Cheney and Rice's case.

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post #82 of 91
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Originally posted by crazychester
Anyway, dmz I'd like to hear your take on what happened that day. Even if it's just your own theories. Can you address these points:

- how do you explain the apparent complete breakdown in America's air defence? Either as a result of the "confusion" created by the war games or whatever? How can this be excused?

- as I watched this happen on TV, before the second plane hit, reporters were saying it could be an accident or it could be terrorism. They were the only two options. Why did Bush go into the class at all then? Why didn't he delay the visit until he found out what was going on?

- if you think his limo and Air Force One weren't "safe", explain how the school is safer given his visit was public knowledge? Why is a moving target less safe than a sitting duck? If the situation was unknown to them why didn't they evacuate EVERYBODY kids and teachers included?

- why did he take so long to address the American people? What do you think was going on during that time?


1. element of suprise -- Miyamoto Musashi or Sun Tzu couldn't have planned those attacks any better.

2. Running out in the open is always more risky than using cover-- also --I said this before, but I would imagine that airspace had been at least monitored, if not cleared around the school -- with Stinger missles in the back of those nifty Suburbans. I doubt they were in very much danger.

3. The president did not need to go in front of a microphone until have had developed a plan and could communicate that plan to the public. We all looked to him for leadership at that time --- popping back up before he had time to deal with what was happening would have been in no one's interest.


I'm done here, you guys hammer it out.

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post #83 of 91
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The terrorists learned flying in Florida didn't they?
post #84 of 91
May it also be stated that, for the record, President Bush wanted to return to Washington ASAP, in order to show the leadership and resolve people here are claiming he lacked. However it was the Secret Service, which you belittle for inaction, that carried the President to and fro across the continent for his protection.
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post #85 of 91
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Originally posted by dmz
I'm done here, you guys hammer it out.

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post #86 of 91
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What about a baby puking all over some dude has anything to do with 9/11, let alone the tinfoil hat 'truth' about 9/11?
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post #87 of 91
Take off the tin foil hats already...

That school was the safest place for him to be. It was gone over with a fine toothed comb by the SS. It was far more certain than being on the road. The SS does an incredible job protecting the president at all times.

You people have clearly lost your minds. Go back and read what you have said. Two words...

SEEK HELP.

It is readily available.
post #88 of 91
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Originally posted by NaplesX
Take off the tin foil hats already...

That school was the safest place for him to be. It was gone over with a fine toothed comb by the SS. It was far more certain than being on the road. The SS does an incredible job protecting the president at all times.

You people have clearly lost your minds. Go back and read what you have said. Two words...

SEEK HELP.

It is readily available.

You're supporting an entire economic, military and foreign policy based on FUD and paranoia, and you tell US to take off the foil hats?
post #89 of 91
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Originally posted by NaplesX
That school was the safest place for him to be.

That's a farce. He was in an unfortified location that was known in advance. An airplane could have been directed to this building as easily as it were someplace else.
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post #90 of 91
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Originally posted by bunge
That's a farce. He was in an unfortified location that was known in advance. An airplane could have been directed to this building as easily as it were someplace else.

And that would be the assumption you would have to make unless you knew different.
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post #91 of 91
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Originally posted by segovius
And that would be the assumption you would have to make unless you knew different.

Yep.
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